tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post115814621739861900..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: MLB Wednesday Wrap: Braves Reign Over!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158194462908108152006-09-13T20:41:00.000-04:002006-09-13T20:41:00.000-04:00I hate the Braves. Bobby Cox is a wife-beater. I...I hate the Braves. Bobby Cox is a wife-beater. I hope their demise signals a rebirth of my team, the team that has had a parallel 14 consecutive losing seasons since losing to the Braves in the NLCS game 7 in 1992, the Pittsburgh Pirates.<BR/><BR/>I also hate Barry Bonds, but not for the obvious, current events reasons. I hate Barry Bonds because Mr. Left Field Gold Glove could not throw out Sid Bream (I could throw out Sid Bream) at the plate with two outs and the World Series on the line. I had four tickets to each World Series game to be played in Pittsburgh, and Barry Bonds couldn't throw out Sid Bream, perhaps the slowest man in baseball in 1992, with two reconstructed knees, on a sharply hit single by Francisco Cabrera off Stan Belinda (why Stan Belinda was in the game, I will never know. Hey Leyland, leave Drabek in. Bring in Wakefield. Anyone but Stan Belinda. With the World Series on the line, I thought Stan might actually vomit before throwing a pitch. This is why the Tigers are about to drop out of the playoffs. Leyland has bad karma. I don't care about his success with the Marlins. Yes I am a little bitter.). Why Bonds even fielded the ball is a mystery. It was Andy Van Slyke's play, he had the better angle and he had the better arm.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, perhaps the Braves mojo will pass to the Pirates and they can have a winning record in 2007, or 2008, or maybe by 2009....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158184800919859372006-09-13T18:00:00.000-04:002006-09-13T18:00:00.000-04:00You r stupid David Ortiz was right, don't hate him...You r stupid David Ortiz was right, don't hate him cuz hes black. Derek Jeter is the p****Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158177221629561932006-09-13T15:53:00.000-04:002006-09-13T15:53:00.000-04:00Streak isn't as impressive as it first looks, sinc...Streak isn't as impressive as it first looks, since in 1994, if I remember correctly they were about 6 games back of Montreal when the season was cancelled. Other than that, it was pretty impressive. I still prefer my Back to Back titles in 92 and 93, but that just might be me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158176118068169742006-09-13T15:35:00.000-04:002006-09-13T15:35:00.000-04:00The Braves streak is not impressive despite only o...The Braves streak is not impressive despite only one series win, it is lame BECAUSE OF only one series win.<BR/><BR/>...Mets fan in the southAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158175809801844332006-09-13T15:30:00.000-04:002006-09-13T15:30:00.000-04:0014 Straight Division Titles - Impressive4 Straight...14 Straight Division Titles - Impressive<BR/>4 Straight Super bowls - Not Bad<BR/>3 Super titles in 4 Years - Very Good<BR/><BR/>8 Straight NBA Championships and 10 in 11 Years - That by far is the greatest run in the history of Sports.<BR/><BR/>The only thing close would be the Bulls in the 90's when they won 6 in 7 yearsCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158166582448103342006-09-13T12:56:00.000-04:002006-09-13T12:56:00.000-04:0014 division titles is impressive and probably won'...14 division titles is impressive and probably won't be approached for a long time. But I tend to look at unbeaten streaks over the course of several years to be more impressive. The fact that UCLA went more than two years (closer to three) without losing a game is amazing, so I would have to put that at the top.<BR/><BR/>I don't see Joe D's 56-game streak ever being passed. Think about it: when Pete Rose got to 44 games back in 78, he was still TWO WEEKS worth of games away. It's tough to put together a 12-game streak, let alone with the pressure of having a long streak going anyway. With all of the different variables in baseball now, that record won't be touched.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17200501702359629649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158166491127845462006-09-13T12:54:00.000-04:002006-09-13T12:54:00.000-04:00I'm 24 and a Mets fan since being released from th...I'm 24 and a Mets fan since being released from the womb. While I can remember other teams winning the NL East (Cardinals, Cubs, Pirates) to name a few, most of that's because I'm a baseball fanatic.<BR/><BR/>Really, what people don't realize is that the Braves have been winners of the "new NL East" Keep in mind that they won in from '91 to '93 in the old format of 2 divisions, under the NL West. After realignment took place, they have been the only winners of the NL East (although technically the Expos would have won the division in '94 if not for the strike).<BR/><BR/>So you can see that it is possible people, especially those getting intrested in baseball around that time, don't realize thatFrank Igoudala Lives!https://www.blogger.com/profile/03634796871299424044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158163872627000252006-09-13T12:11:00.000-04:002006-09-13T12:11:00.000-04:00It's a tough call for me on the Braves' streak. On...It's a tough call for me on the Braves' streak. On one hand, it shows great roster management skills by Schuerholz and great managing by Cox and Mazzone. But one of the other aspects of this streak has been very diluted competition. For much of this streak, one of the teams in the division was the MLB-owned and neglected Expos. The Braves beat up on the Expos/Nats during their run. Another team - the Marlins - has gone through stretches of success followed by utter failure. While the Mets have been on-and-off competitive and the Phillies have been alright, I believe that if you put the Braves back in the old NL West configuration, they never would have won all of these division titles in a row. Impressive? yes. Best streak in pro sports? Maybe not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158163030441564612006-09-13T11:57:00.000-04:002006-09-13T11:57:00.000-04:00Thanks Whocares. I was wondering when someone was...Thanks Whocares. I was wondering when someone was going to correct that bonehead remark. Maris by the way still holds the non-steroid HR record.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158162991449926982006-09-13T11:56:00.000-04:002006-09-13T11:56:00.000-04:00Braves didn't win the pennant in '96 due to the st...Braves didn't win the pennant in '96 due to the strike - even then Montreal would've won it....so to me any of the years pre-'96 should not count.<BR/><BR/>As for the Jays - if they were in any other division, they would be on top. Playing the Sox and Yanks and having them ahead of them is a total disadvantage - if the Marlins and the Jays switched divisions, the fish would be battling the D-Rays for the floor and the Jays would be in a dog fight with the Mets...or at least for the W/C.<BR/><BR/>Uncle Teddy (Ted Rogers - the owner) has comitted to raise the payroll from $77 - to possibly the low to mid $90's next season.<BR/><BR/>Signing Vernon to a long term extension is on everyone's mind up here in Toronto and will command at least $16.5 mil a season.....<BR/><BR/>The Jays are going to be a very...very dangerous team next year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158162522550073442006-09-13T11:48:00.000-04:002006-09-13T11:48:00.000-04:00I'm 29 but didn't get really into baseball til I w...I'm 29 but didn't get really into baseball til I was in about 6th grade which was the last time they didn't win it. It's hard to say where the streak ranks, I think UCLAs is pretty damn impressive though considering you have kids graduating every 4 yrs and no opportunity to lock them down by long contracts as in the pros. I'm just glad the streak is over, and my Mets are the team that ended it. Haha Cox-suckers! The Braves fans were beyond obnoxious about it. I agree with the other poster who compared it to getting honorable mentions.Badass Of The Yearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006421706977226384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158160708935096812006-09-13T11:18:00.001-04:002006-09-13T11:18:00.001-04:00WedgeMcWedgy, St. Louis streak is impressive but i...WedgeMcWedgy, St. Louis streak is impressive but it is not even the longest in NHL history. That Belongs to the Boston Bruins who streak went at least 26 years but i believe actually ended after 28 years in a row in the playoffsCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158160688732826772006-09-13T11:18:00.000-04:002006-09-13T11:18:00.000-04:00I don't know where the streak ranks compared to ot...I don't know where the streak ranks compared to others, but I noticed today that during the Braves' run every National League team has made the playoffs except Milwaukee (who spent part of that time in the AL) and Montreal/Washington. This includes Colorado(!) and Pittsburgh(!!). Heck, 8 of the 15 other teams went to the World Series during that strech. How's that for a generation-spanning streak?Thom and Amanda McMurrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12457054553445256360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158159679711659432006-09-13T11:01:00.000-04:002006-09-13T11:01:00.000-04:00I think the Braves streak is admirable, but really...I think the Braves streak is admirable, but really, with only 1 champiionship, it goes down more as opportunity wasted than anything else. The Indianapolis Colts of baseball (as long as P. Manning does not win one over the next 10 years).<BR/>As for the Blue Jays losses, it is rumoured that, since the same company owns the team, the stadium, and the TV sports channel they get broadcast on, there may be some internal money funneling going on. The owner of the company came out and said such losses of $20-25M / season are sustainable, so it is not like they are going to slash costs. In fact, it has been reported that the payroll will increase again next season for Riccadri.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158158559211758482006-09-13T10:42:00.000-04:002006-09-13T10:42:00.000-04:00That made little sense. hahaI mean that fans of o...That made little sense. haha<BR/><BR/>I mean that fans of other teams don't remember the champions unless their team won or their team lost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158158496568952552006-09-13T10:41:00.000-04:002006-09-13T10:41:00.000-04:00I would argue that the Marlins 2 Series championsh...I would argue that the Marlins 2 Series championships (can't say World Series anymore) aren't memorable. <BR/>You can ask me to name the last 5 champs and I don't think I can answer..same for football. <BR/>Reds last won in 1990. I remember that. I dont remember the Marlins and noone outside FLorida does either. (not to pick on the Marlins, I think this is true of all teams)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158158458752102472006-09-13T10:40:00.000-04:002006-09-13T10:40:00.000-04:00Dan don't kid yourself. The Yankees are the team ...Dan don't kid yourself. The Yankees are the team to beat in the entire league not just the AL. The Yankees 9th inning lineup last night (1 starter) could beat your Marlins with ease.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158156996030474542006-09-13T10:16:00.000-04:002006-09-13T10:16:00.000-04:00wedge - I'm sorry, but St. Louis' streak is not ev...wedge - I'm sorry, but St. Louis' streak is not even in the same league as any other streak mentioned here, not to mention the Braves'. <BR/><BR/>First of all, the Braves streak is in DIVISION TITLES, not simply playoff appearances. How many divisions did St. Louis win in those 24 years?<BR/><BR/>Secondly, even if we were comparing playoff appearances...throughout about half of the Blues' streak, there were only 24 teams in the NHL, so fully 2/3 of the teams made the playoffs. For the first few years of the Braves' steak, ONLY division winners made the playoffs.<BR/><BR/>mark - Along with the aforementioned correction about DiMaggio's hit streak, the Steelers never won 3 of 4 Super Bowls. They won 2, then missed 2, then won 2. The Cowboys are the other team to win 3 of 4.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158156603438405552006-09-13T10:10:00.000-04:002006-09-13T10:10:00.000-04:00The Braves have definatley had the greatest streak...The Braves have definatley had the greatest streak of all time; I agree with Mark 100%- before the days of Free Agency, nobody could come anywhere close to it- <BR/><BR/>The 14 straight division titles displays the consistancy that the Braves came out and played with every day, every year- Over the past 14 years, no single team has been more dominant in multiple seasons; mabye 2 or 3, but never anything close to the consistancy that the Braves and Bobby Cox (the best manager in baseball, ever) have displayed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158156405714653532006-09-13T10:06:00.000-04:002006-09-13T10:06:00.000-04:00I should have mentioned the Royals brawl and Abreu...I should have mentioned the Royals brawl and Abreu's 6-RBI 1st inning. Agreed. -- D.S.Dan Shanoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126386161198401693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158155456998350452006-09-13T09:50:00.000-04:002006-09-13T09:50:00.000-04:00Is nobody on here going to call out the first guy'...Is nobody on here going to call out the first guy's post? You're all baseball fans and going to let it slide that Mark said that Roger Maris has the consecutive games hitting streak? Uhhh, Joe Dimaggio anyone?whocareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15316744759269727283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158154457370507862006-09-13T09:34:00.000-04:002006-09-13T09:34:00.000-04:00I'm surprised the Jays lost money this year. I won...I'm surprised the Jays lost money this year. I wonder if their TV deal is less than it should be considering Rogers owns both the Jays and the network that 90% of the Jays games are on. The Jays get to be the hometeam to everyone in Canada as almost every game (possibly all) are broadcast across the country, as well as all the analysts and sports shows talking about the Jays as if they were the hometeam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158154230112761762006-09-13T09:30:00.000-04:002006-09-13T09:30:00.000-04:00What about the St. Louis Blues making the NHL play...What about the St. Louis Blues making the NHL playoffs for 24 years straight 1980-2004, that needs to at least be the #2 streak if not #1 right? <BR/><BR/>However, the reason you might still consider the Braves a little more might be the number of teams from conference that make the MLB playoffs (4 out of 16) opposed to the NHL (8 out of 15).<BR/><BR/>Braves at least got 1 title, Blues have 0 Stanley Cups.<BR/><BR/>If anything though, what other team in pro sports than the Blues can say they've only missed the playoffs 4 times in their franchises 35+ year history?Allen Wedgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12511193372395131930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158153638990775792006-09-13T09:20:00.000-04:002006-09-13T09:20:00.000-04:00Braves run would have been number one if maybe the...Braves run would have been number one if maybe they could have thrown in another two ws wins. That celtics run is impressive but my money is on david wells' longstanding title as fattest man in baseball or michael irvins string of consecutive games played while under the influence of crack. Records are made to be broken and there are only 2 i am convinced will never be broken in my lifetime. Dimaggio's 56 and rickey hendersons stolen bases in a season. Dimaggio's might be broken but with baseball talent I just dont see someone breaking a hundred steals again in a yr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158153004457038272006-09-13T09:10:00.000-04:002006-09-13T09:10:00.000-04:00mark said:"Toronto losses more money than the Marl...mark said:<BR/><BR/>"Toronto losses more money than the Marlins payroll, yet the Marlins' are in the playoff hunt. I continue to find those kind of numbers funny."<BR/><BR/>Agreed, but at least Toronto can point to their better record in the much tougher league.<BR/><BR/>And I also have to agree with the general consensus that consecutive championships are more impressive and cmfost's contention that the Celtics run is the most impressive of all championship runs.CorrNDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371462855078578516noreply@blogger.com