tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post115833118487060718..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Bill Simmons vs. Stephen ColbertUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-20003256807672614832007-02-16T22:04:00.000-05:002007-02-16T22:04:00.000-05:00New comment...old post, people always said I was a...New comment...old post, people always said I was a bit slow, I just thought they meant I suck at running.<BR/><BR/>So they say that those who don't have the right presence on tv....do radio. Those who don't have the voice.....write. What happens when you don't have the presence, and don't have the voice.....you turn into Shannon Sharpe on the CBS Half Time Show.<BR/><BR/>I'm happy to see that Bill at least hung in there. <BR/><BR/>-tTherapeutic Ramblingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12781452874259470378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-20202440486231140852007-02-16T22:03:00.000-05:002007-02-16T22:03:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Therapeutic Ramblingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12781452874259470378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158593261923820372006-09-18T11:27:00.000-04:002006-09-18T11:27:00.000-04:00I e-mailed Simmons after this interview and compar...I e-mailed Simmons after this interview and compared his performance to Michael Olawakandi (but ahead of Daunte Culpepper).<BR/> It was such a disappointment. The only good line was the Clinton throwing like a girlBrave Sir Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15219327624473687797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158418592492215962006-09-16T10:56:00.000-04:002006-09-16T10:56:00.000-04:00Finally had a chance to watch my Tivo'd copy. I d...Finally had a chance to watch my Tivo'd copy. I don't know if my expectations were set very low by all the comments here, but I didn't think he was <I>that</I> bad. I've certainly seen much worse, anyway. Like people that have no idea what they're getting into or people that decide they don't want to play along with Colbert's shtick. At least Bill was on the same page as Colbert.<BR/><BR/>Again, this is probably because I was expecting much worse, but I thought his voice was pretty normal.CorrNDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371462855078578516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158413515824533182006-09-16T09:31:00.000-04:002006-09-16T09:31:00.000-04:00I am just glad we finally got to see the Bill "I a...I am just glad we finally got to see the Bill "I am on the Colbert Report" Simmons face.hanke11https://www.blogger.com/profile/07618883415535983222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158372225484735742006-09-15T22:03:00.000-04:002006-09-15T22:03:00.000-04:00Oh, and Bill on YouTube (via Deadspin).<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm6p40VrNBM" REL="nofollow">Oh, and Bill on YouTube (via Deadspin).</A>Matt Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00177143158329380563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158372120842196822006-09-15T22:02:00.000-04:002006-09-15T22:02:00.000-04:00Bill Simmons copied Chuck Klosterman with the 18 y...Bill Simmons copied Chuck Klosterman with the <A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=klosterman/060907" REL="nofollow">18 year olds playing for USA basketball, miracle on ice</A> comment. And no citation?Matt Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00177143158329380563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158360502767345172006-09-15T18:48:00.000-04:002006-09-15T18:48:00.000-04:00Just watched that on ComedyCentral.I can't believe...Just watched that on ComedyCentral.<BR/><BR/>I can't believe he acutally validated/pimped "The Curse" after objecting to it so vehemently in the past. He was #1 on the Shaugnassy-bashers list.<BR/><BR/>Talk about a flip flop.<BR/><BR/>Then he claims that Boston fans enjoy being miserable and everything has returned to normal this season?<BR/><BR/>I'm hoping it was just TV nerves, because if it wasn't, he just lost all credibility.marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158356985220533732006-09-15T17:49:00.000-04:002006-09-15T17:49:00.000-04:00I just watched the interview on ComedyCentral.com,...I just watched the interview on ComedyCentral.com, and I agree with everyone that has said Simmons is slightly awkward on television. He looked absolutely terrified before the interview even began.<BR/><BR/>And I don't know if you sneezed and missed it or what, but Colbert and Simmons shook hands just before the book was mentioned again at the end.MJLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10756567504210928993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158343565517758282006-09-15T14:06:00.000-04:002006-09-15T14:06:00.000-04:00Someone needs to youtube this... It's not on the C...Someone needs to youtube this... It's not on the ComedyCentral video's yet. Last one is Ken Jennings vs. Stephen Colbertmarcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158341775395132452006-09-15T13:36:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:36:00.000-04:00I've said it before and I'll say it again - for lo...I've said it before and I'll say it again - for loyalists to Simmons from the Digital City Boston days he has become our Brett Favre. <BR/><BR/>Seriously I make apologies for him all the time but the truth of the matter is - he lost his fastball about 4 or 5 years ago and everytime I'm about to give up on him I remember the good old days and I keep crawling back for more.<BR/><BR/>I remember his first TV appearance on I think Channel 7 and his voice was just awful - so high pitched and he was so nervous. I will say he was better then that last night but like you say - going on Colbert is really tough, more tough than Jon Stewart in my opinion because of the things Steven is likely to say.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00617207710938001790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158341095133394392006-09-15T13:24:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:24:00.000-04:00I remember in a Simmons mailbag article a few year...I remember in a Simmons mailbag article a few years back, someone asked him why he never did TV or radio, and Bill admitted that his style adapts better in print than on-air. <BR/><BR/>I met him about a year ago on the tour after the book came out, and although he was extremely nice, he wasn't cracking any jokes or making any witty comments like people expected. Still nice to meet the man behind the ingenious sports/pop culture writing.The Rosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03762866770710760096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158340415610043042006-09-15T13:13:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:13:00.000-04:00Dan, I think you nailed the main point of this, wh...Dan, I think you nailed the main point of this, which is that going on Colbert is really, really tough for just about anyone, because, as you said, you're gonna have to be the straight guy. His humor often works best with politicians, who are so oblivious to the jokes that they walk right into them. With writers like Simmons, there's less humor to be had in the first place...<BR/><BR/>Troy: i remember going to the first PAX and being pretty damn surprised at who the folks behind it were...Zachhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06825086499064577652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158340070990274062006-09-15T13:07:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:07:00.000-04:00Troy: Indeed. What's up with that? Of course, co...Troy: Indeed. What's up with that? Of course, considering PA is such a geek site, should we be surprised that Mike and Jerry aren't as cool as Gabe and Tycho?Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158339984983920672006-09-15T13:06:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:06:00.000-04:00Deadspin has the youtube link. Also it must have b...Deadspin has the youtube link. Also it must have been hard early in the interview bill was cut off after ever 3 or 4 words and then at the end Colbert started to let him go even though bill was ready to get cut off.Juke Box Herohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10701874424736614017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158339812723579132006-09-15T13:03:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:03:00.000-04:00But for any true geeks out there, seeing Simmons o...But for any true geeks out there, seeing Simmons on TV still isn't half as jarring as the first time you see images/videos of Gabe and Tycho from Penny Arcade.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158339698686721122006-09-15T13:01:00.000-04:002006-09-15T13:01:00.000-04:00Personally I think Simmons is pretty good in those...Personally I think Simmons is pretty good in those segments on bad movies he does with Adam Corolla, but that might just be me. <BR/><BR/>I think my problem with Bill's TV/Radio presence is his voice. It's a little too.. I think the word "weenie" was used. It's just kind of funny to me to hear that voice and try to reconcile it with the uber-macho "what is a girl doing in a fantasy league?!?!?!" tone his columns can take.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158337964860008762006-09-15T12:32:00.000-04:002006-09-15T12:32:00.000-04:00Oh..to answer the question: It doesn't affect how ...Oh..to answer the question: It doesn't affect how I view his writing. It's usually great stuff although he's losing a lot of tread when he ventures into Patriots territory. Bill is able to dress down the Red Sox...but he goes completely homer on the Patriots. That does get old.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158337906895999542006-09-15T12:31:00.000-04:002006-09-15T12:31:00.000-04:00I listened to the clips of him on Carolla's show a...I listened to the clips of him on Carolla's show and it's about the same. Bill just can't quite pull it off, and his voice is surprising.<BR/><BR/>It's funny how we ascribe a certain voice to people. WHen I saw Shanoff on ATH, it was totally not what I expected and he sounded funny too. Smarmy as well...kinda thought you were forcing it to out-Mariotti Mariotti.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158337857006739902006-09-15T12:30:00.000-04:002006-09-15T12:30:00.000-04:00Question...Do people read Simmons because they thi...Question...Do people read Simmons because they think he is a good writer and funny? Or do you think people read him because he is a Boston douchebag who makes you want to punch the computer and you ultimately punch a stranger instead. I'll take the 2nd one.RevScottDeMangeMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220843774217781967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158336899569486502006-09-15T12:14:00.000-04:002006-09-15T12:14:00.000-04:00I'm not sure how many people remember Bill from hi...I'm not sure how many people remember Bill from his Digital City Boston days, but he was WAAAAY better back then (this was late 90's, early 00 if I remember correctly) and I've been a little disappointed with him since he moved ESPN.<BR/><BR/>The great thing about Bill at Digital City was that he didn't really have an editor to reign him in - he said wrote some pretty hilarious/outlandish remarks that wouldn't make it past the ESPN censors. Reading his work now you can notice the restraint.<BR/><BR/>For many of the reasons mentioned in other posts, I refuse to see Bill on-air. His voice annoys me, and he's almost never as lively as he is in his writing. I don't want my fond rememberances of his DCB days clouded by poor visual and audio performances.Brewahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09825966243506570413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158336392838462992006-09-15T12:06:00.000-04:002006-09-15T12:06:00.000-04:00Bill managed to tread water which was about what I...Bill managed to tread water which was about what I expected of him. Like everyone else I have seen him on TV and knew his writing was better than his TV persona. Hopefully this will just enforce to Bill that his world is in the written word, even though Colberts show is impossible for most to do.Matt W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08763143582686820221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158335681210994022006-09-15T11:54:00.000-04:002006-09-15T11:54:00.000-04:00He just seemed a bit out of his element, as you po...He just seemed a bit out of his element, as you pointed out Dan. Perhaps if he got a start on some small local media outlet, he could become good on TV, but it's incredibly difficult to just walk into the national TV spotlight and be a success. Very few pull that off.FreKy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322127577984239799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158334778966582522006-09-15T11:39:00.000-04:002006-09-15T11:39:00.000-04:00He calls ESPN radio in Boston from time to time. ...He calls ESPN radio in Boston from time to time. He just sounds tiny. The first time I heard him it really shattered the voice I had for him when I read his articles.Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15413032996921292628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1158333128128025812006-09-15T11:12:00.000-04:002006-09-15T11:12:00.000-04:00Yeah, I've heard Bill on the radio before, and I'v...Yeah, I've heard Bill on the radio before, and I've always been struck by his Lincoln-esque voice. He's a master writer, but just doesn't have 'live' presence. And that's maybe a good thing, otherwise Bill Simmons could become grandmaster of the Sports Universe.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.com