Comments on Dan Shanoff: Monday A.M. Quickie:We're All Saints Fans

Ed -"But I do believe that the Superdome should be...

2006-09-25T22:59:18.166-04:00

Ed -

"But I do believe that the Superdome should be viewed and treated as what it has become, which is a memorial to tragedy. If the largest other stadium in N.O. holds only 20,000, as another poster noted, then play Saints game in front of 20K. Why would that be a problem?"

Tad Gormley is a high school stadium/track and field stadium. No way this could be converted into an NFL stadium. The whole City Park area around the stadium was ravaged. Luckily, Reggie Bush has donated money to start rebuilding this. However, there are no real ways to earn revenue at this site. You need money to run an NFL franchise.

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Who paid for the Supedome repairs? And how much did fixing the stadium cost? Couldn't that money, time, and people power have been put to better use rehabilitating the houses of New Orleans?"

The state fast tracked the bids for the Superdome. If they did this for everything, NOLA would recover much faster.

I'm sitting in the city right now and its electric. For 3 hours, people are forgetting their problems and enjoying some entertainment. If the Saints pull this off, the city is going to be celebrating for a week. We need this!!!

"People died everywhere in the city. Should we jus...

2006-09-25T21:43:31.526-04:00

"People died everywhere in the city. Should we just ditch the city as a whole under your theory?"

dbl,

Obviously, I can't I argue that New Orleans should be abandoned because a natural disaster occured. Nor would I. New Orleans was my favorite place to visit before Katrina, and I'm thrilled to see that the place is coming around.

But I do believe that the Superdome should be viewed and treated as what it has become, which is a memorial to tragedy. If the largest other stadium in N.O. holds only 20,000, as another poster noted, then play Saints game in front of 20K. Why would that be a problem?

Also, I didn't know that the Superdome was constructed on top of an ancient Indian burial ground. (Again, quoting another poster.) If that that is true, the site should be abandoned for two reasons. The fact that people didn't seem to object to building the Superdome on a graveyard doesn't mean that doing so wasn't wrong.

Who paid for the Supedome repairs? And how much did fixing the stadium cost? Couldn't that money, time, and people power have been put to better use rehabilitating the houses of New Orleans?

And thats my real point in all of this. As important as sports are in creating and maintaining people's sense of community, it is killing (metaphorical usage) me that seemingly no one is discussing the all too apparent negatives to returning footbal to a location where so much bad stuff happened.

P.S. to raphael: Harsh me all you want, but the Hokie Bird never did anything wrong to you.

Ed-If we don't play/party in the Superdome, where ...

2006-09-25T20:25:56.900-04:00

Ed-

If we don't play/party in the Superdome, where can we do it? I think its very easy for an outsider of NOLA to say that, but life is different here. People died everywhere in the city. Should we just ditch the city as a whole under your theory?

So, who else blitzed their league's waiver wire an...

2006-09-25T19:50:56.400-04:00

So, who else blitzed their league's waiver wire and grabbed Matt Morris before any distraught Alexander owners could get their mitts on him?

that noise you just heard? that's all the fantasy...

2006-09-25T19:32:26.306-04:00

that noise you just heard? that's all the fantasy owners who took shaun alexander number one. suckers.

Ugh. The Hokies. Purple Turkeys..worst mascot ev...

2006-09-25T19:28:55.823-04:00

Ugh. The Hokies. Purple Turkeys..worst mascot ever.

Imagine the horror of Saints fans if Reggie Bush g...

2006-09-25T18:29:15.176-04:00

Imagine the horror of Saints fans if Reggie Bush gets injured? The irony of the hope of a franchise and city taken down by their own stadium.

DAN! Breaking News. THE MADDEN CURSE LIVES!!!!!!!!...

2006-09-25T18:15:14.640-04:00

DAN! Breaking News. THE MADDEN CURSE LIVES!!!!!!!!!

Speaking of tragedies, Shaun Alexander is out inde...

2006-09-25T18:01:20.503-04:00

Speaking of tragedies, Shaun Alexander is out indefinitely with a broken foot. The Madden Curse Lives!

It's not a memorial to tragedy, it's a memorial to...

2006-09-25T17:26:11.033-04:00

It's not a memorial to tragedy, it's a memorial to bureaucratic ineptness. And if we stopped playing football in every city that has shown bureaucratic ineptness, well, there aren't very many places left to play.

And definitely not Oakland.

The superdome was originally built on an ancient N...

2006-09-25T17:11:17.403-04:00

The superdome was originally built on an ancient Native American burial ground. No one seemed to give a crap about it being a memorial then. Everywhere on earth has had people die there at one point or another, you just gotta move on.

I was at the Supedome for the 1996 Sugar Bowl, whe...

2006-09-25T17:02:54.886-04:00

I was at the Supedome for the 1996 Sugar Bowl, when my beloved Hokie upset the Texas Longhorns on one of the best New Year's Eves ever. The place was great for a football game then. It is now a memorial to tragedy. Don't play/party there.

Ed = "Biggest.Tool.Ever"

2006-09-25T16:16:44.823-04:00

Ed = "Biggest.Tool.Ever"

Ed-There was no other choice but to return to the ...

2006-09-25T16:14:45.666-04:00

Ed-

There was no other choice but to return to the Superdome if the Saints wanted to return ASAP. Tulane plays at the Superdome now. Tulane Stadium was knocked down in 1980. The only other stadium is Tad Gormley Field which only holds like 20k and was destroyed in the Hurricane.

Not to gang up on Ed here (well, not really his po...

2006-09-25T16:10:45.856-04:00

Not to gang up on Ed here (well, not really his posting was pretty absurd)...

"Superdome = Worst. Football. Venue. Ever."

You have clearly never seen a game in the Superdome...

"Absolutely return football to New Orleans, But have the Saints play at Tulane's stadium until a new version of the Superdome can be built."

Tulane plays their home games in the Superdome, and how and where are they going to get the money and the land to build another Superdome?

Can we please all keep in mind that Rex freaking G...

2006-09-25T15:59:13.633-04:00

Can we please all keep in mind that Rex freaking Grossman lit up the Lions even worse than Favre did? Once Grossman faced a halfway decent defense like the Vikings he laid an egg. Detroit's defense = suck. Favre's performance yesterday = overrated.

Gary:met him at the Westin in Providence. He was ...

2006-09-25T15:56:36.043-04:00

Gary:

met him at the Westin in Providence. He was staying there and I was there this weekend for a wedding.

You're right about Providence. All the celebs/athletes who come into the "Boston area" for events actually stay in Providence out of the limelight and it's easier access to and from events.

Tiger is another example- he always stays at the Westin when he plays nearby. A friend of mine has a membership at the Westin gym and says you can catch Tiger there typically when he's in town.

rob (warwick)

Dan, Dan, Dan. You are so obvious at times. I'm no...

2006-09-25T15:40:06.483-04:00

Dan, Dan, Dan. You are so obvious at times. I'm not a Packers fan at all but I am so amused at your lack of an open mind about so many things. Your dislike for Farve so clouds your judgment that when he has a great game on the road you dismiss it. Similar to your hatred for all things Duke basketball and Steelers football (Yeah the Jags were the best team in the league last week but when they gag away a big divisional road game against the Colts you minimize it by saying the could've/should've won.)even when Favre plays well it is because he is playing against a bad team. Had he gone to Florida I'm sure you would cut him more slack.

This isn't a post to defend Favre (his best days are clearly behind him but he did prove he could play a little bit yeserday didn't he Dan?) it is merely to point out your hypocricy and how your analysis is so flawed based on whether you like someone or not. You are like us Dan, a fan, and that is fine. However, I think some of us can be much more objective that you will ever be. It's okay though, go on being a Florida and Jaguar apologist. We at least know where you are coming from.

kurm, how can the '91 WS be underrated when ESPN h...

2006-09-25T14:48:06.486-04:00

kurm, how can the '91 WS be underrated when ESPN has it as their #1 WS of all time?

http://espn.go.com/swf/mlb/anniversary/worldseries_100.html

Hey, I know it's not that important but let's show...

2006-09-25T14:26:59.520-04:00

Hey, I know it's not that important but let's show a little love for the 90-91 Minnesota Twins, who went worst to first and WON the most underrated WS of recent memory.

Is it true that Keith Jackson is calling tonight's...

2006-09-25T14:12:20.563-04:00

Is it true that Keith Jackson is calling tonight's MNF game?

Let me preface this by saying that I am a Rutgers ...

2006-09-25T13:36:29.650-04:00

Let me preface this by saying that I am a Rutgers graduate.

There is NO WAY we should be top 25. Look at who we´ve played! Until we have a respectable showing against a real team (WVU, Louisville), I am not a believer.

the next touchdown dance at the Superdome will be...

2006-09-25T13:21:35.373-04:00

the next touchdown dance at the Superdome will be literally danced on a Hurricane Katrina victim's grave.

They buried people in the superdome?

The Jags had over 100 yards rushing in the first q...

2006-09-25T13:08:50.046-04:00

The Jags had over 100 yards rushing in the first quarter. The ofense is so close it just needs that killer instinct the defense has to finish drives off. By season's end the offense will start clicking and they'll be a team to be reckoned with come playoff time barring injuries like last year.

A few have already said it, but I have to agree - ...

2006-09-25T13:04:42.446-04:00

A few have already said it, but I have to agree - we're not all Saints fans. I'm happy for the people of New Orleans that they're getting back to a moderate sense of normalcy, and that they can have football back there, but how that relates to me wanting one of the worst franchises in the NFL to WIN? It doesn't even relate.

It's just another thing for all the mindless drones in the media, especially the sports media, to cling to and make themselves seem deep and thoughtful. If you want to help, go down there and help, or donate money to the effort, don't root for a stupid football team that sucks.