tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post115946260585802772..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: ESPN Mobile: Lessons Learned?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159654358227554952006-09-30T18:12:00.000-04:002006-09-30T18:12:00.000-04:00As a subscriber to mobile espn, I am only paying $...As a subscriber to mobile espn, I am only paying $10/month more for this service than my other service, and since I was with sprint, my service area is remaining the same (though I do get more minutes with ESPN).<BR/><BR/>That said, I was upset when they announced they were ending service. It was anticipated, as I knew they were having troubles.<BR/><BR/>My phone was not bulky, as has been implied, and was often extremely super! I am a teacher and am often away from a television or computer, and, especially during college football or basketball seasons, I need to be connected to what is going on. The phone allowed me to sit at a middle school basketball game and not worry about the UNC game because I was watching it too! I also have season tickets to the 'Canes and I disliked having to miss the end of football games for hockey games. This phone took care of that. Even more, I could be sitting in staff development reading Forde's newest article!<BR/><BR/>I have never seen another cell phone with internet content that worked as smoothly as this one for watching games or simply playing the ESPN gamecast.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if those of you that are speaking ill of mobile espn have even seen the service... or maybe you just have more time than myself to sit around and watch tv?Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06234390321441191258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159491703878264922006-09-28T21:01:00.000-04:002006-09-28T21:01:00.000-04:00I am a huge sports guy, but I'm also one that does...I am a huge sports guy, but I'm also one that doesn't like to overdo it. My personal opinion is that this phone is just too much for some people.<BR/><BR/>I do have internet on my Cingular phone, I use it occasionally to get a score on a Saturday or Sunday, but rarely for any sort of news update.<BR/><BR/>I just wanted to get an idea, would you:<BR/><BR/>a) have used the phone the way ESPN marketed it (their service, their phones)<BR/><BR/>b) Pay a monnthy service fee to use the ESPN Mobile on your carrier?<BR/><BR/>c) Or do you have no interest and feel you can wait til you get home to get scores, news, etc?<BR/><BR/>Joe (Dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159491267108229222006-09-28T20:54:00.000-04:002006-09-28T20:54:00.000-04:00What gets me most is after all of the advertising,...What gets me most is after all of the advertising, all of the SportsCenter plugs, and all of the ESPN Radio hosts mentioning the phones during segments on their shows Mobile ESPN only had 30,000 subscribers.<BR/><BR/>ESPN can shrug this off, but it was a bad idea.<BR/><BR/>Joe (Dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159480417210160042006-09-28T17:53:00.000-04:002006-09-28T17:53:00.000-04:00Didn't DS tease us in the DQ about ESPN mobile bef...Didn't DS tease us in the DQ about ESPN mobile before the superbowl about how great it was going to be and everyone would want one?Matt Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12025500546395746323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159475928438596002006-09-28T16:38:00.000-04:002006-09-28T16:38:00.000-04:00Heck, I won't even pay for Insider. And I won't p...Heck, I won't even pay for Insider. And I won't pay for updates on my phone either.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159474945490585402006-09-28T16:22:00.000-04:002006-09-28T16:22:00.000-04:00Dan, I can't recall you demonstrating any Team aff...Dan, I can't recall you demonstrating any Team affiliation.<BR/><BR/>Who're your teams (mlb, nfl, nba, college)marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159468932911025832006-09-28T14:42:00.000-04:002006-09-28T14:42:00.000-04:00This reminds me of the same business mistake that ...This reminds me of the same business mistake that Gateway made a few years ago, when they moved away from selling computers over the internet, opened a 180 physical stores across the country (which you could stranagely still only order computers over the internet) and started trying to sell cameras, televisions, printers, and many other alternate products. They lost a lot of money quickly, closed all 180 stores and finally shifted back to the original model.FreKy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322127577984239799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159465856461096582006-09-28T13:50:00.000-04:002006-09-28T13:50:00.000-04:00The idea was ill-conceived for more than the reaso...The idea was ill-conceived for more than the reasons Dan cited.<BR/><BR/>For many Americans, the cell phone is the family umbilical cord. So, if I'm buying *any* plan, sports fan or not, I'm buying a plan that will cover the whole family at a reasonable price.<BR/><BR/>I also need to choose a plan that everyone in the family wants. Just because I want ESPN content on my phone, does that mean my wife and daughter want that stuff? No. Much as my wife is a huge football fan, she would not want a phone sending her scores and updates.<BR/><BR/>The promotional campaign was also an exercise in, "you don't want *that*". Showing the user, getting his updates during romantic dinners, dates, bedtime ... not the way you want to sell the product.<BR/><BR/>Why? Because guys will be thinking, "my wife would kill me if I did that". And wives/girlfriends would be thinking, "he'd better not have his ESPN phone with us on our date".<BR/><BR/>Seriously, how many people in the target audience would think having an ESPN phone available at all times would necessarily be a good thing? How many of us, as sports fans, are so addicted to live updates, that we can't go to the movies, or out with friends, or to the grocery store, without knowing that the Dodgers have scored while we were out?<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I agree with Dan and Big D ... the idea had so many established alternatives out there in the marketplace that it was somewhat doomed from the start.<BR/><BR/>BrienBrienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17646494642859915601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159465736569969102006-09-28T13:48:00.001-04:002006-09-28T13:48:00.001-04:00Wait wait wait. You have a MBA from Harvard? Why...Wait wait wait. You have a MBA from Harvard? Why has no one brought this up yet? Yeah yeah, ESPN was doomed to fail at switching people from their own networks, but Shanoff has a MBA from Harvard??? This is more deserving of a blog topic than ESPN Mobile failing. Who's with me?Rogehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08588687231104700516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159465716945655142006-09-28T13:48:00.000-04:002006-09-28T13:48:00.000-04:00One other thing I thought was damaging to this who...One other thing I thought was damaging to this whole enterprise was the way ESPN went about advertising it. The Superbowl spots (with the guy walking past a zillion athletes) were all well and good, but after that, they seemed to want to portray their audience as wackos, and I'm not sure why. Those commercials with the "ESPN groupie"? The guy who was hanging outside of the Bristol compound, ripping his clothes on the fence and having restraining orders taken out on him? That's the spokesguy who's supposed to convince me to switch phones? It looked to me like ESPN getting too big for its britches...I mean, the guy wasn't even a <I>sports</I> fanatic as much as he was an <I>ESPN</I> fanatic, and that's why he had the phone. And I think there was another, later set of ads, where basically the phone is interfering with the guy's life (he yells out during business meetings, confuses cab drivers, ticks off his wife, etc., because he's getting constant updates on the phone). I know ESPN is trying to reach out to the die-hards, but I don't see how putting idiots as die-hards in the commercial makes anyone want to invest in this phone and use it all the time.<BR/> <BR/>And then there's all the "free" advertising, in the form of mentioning ESPN Mobile about 20 times per SportCenter, and having reporters call in on their phones instead of just appearing regularly, like some NFL guy is in a bunker in a Fallujah and can't get on the air. To me, at least, it really grated. They do the same thing with MNF, and it's such a hard sell that they're threating to turn SportsCenter into one 60-90 minute infomercial ("Watch MNF!" "Buy the phone!" "Go see a Disney movie!"). It's a turn-off, and they're hurting themselves with it.mattiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140791869711206907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159465586597880052006-09-28T13:46:00.000-04:002006-09-28T13:46:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.mattiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140791869711206907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159465513124874952006-09-28T13:45:00.000-04:002006-09-28T13:45:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jingoisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01269679565181077961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159465487461902922006-09-28T13:44:00.000-04:002006-09-28T13:44:00.000-04:00I agree with Big D about the accessibility of the ...I agree with Big D about the accessibility of the internet for updates.<BR/><BR/>I don't think I would have had a problem with switching carriers so much as I had a problem with the plans espn offered. I was really intrigued about getting it, but when I checked out how few minutes you got at each price point, it just wasn't competitive with the other carriers.Badass Of The Yearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16006421706977226384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1159463358685601672006-09-28T13:09:00.000-04:002006-09-28T13:09:00.000-04:00Well Put.And you're right - this is a perfect oppo...Well Put.<BR/><BR/>And you're right - this is a perfect opportunity for the type of "hindsight prophesizing" that so many of us (you and I included) dabble in.<BR/><BR/>I think a lot of us saw this coming as a bad idea. I know I would love to have ESPN content on my phone, but I have no intention of swapping phones, carriers, plans and possibly coverage zones just to get scores and news. I'll just use a PocketPC Smartphone and connect to the Internet for any updates I need.<BR/><BR/>That's the other major problem - with the increased reliability and speed of PDA Phones, Internet connectivity is no longer restricted to computers and $500 cell phones. Many carriers offer Internet connectivity for a small fee - who needs to pay even more to have it delivered straight to them when they can simply click on their favorite sites and find the same information for free?Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.com