tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116161845528018927..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: NFL Week 7 Post-ScriptUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161680400174134182006-10-24T05:00:00.000-04:002006-10-24T05:00:00.000-04:00spencer: I noticed that too. I haven't actually l...spencer: I noticed that too. I haven't actually listened to TO for that long before. Does anyone know if that's one of his habits? What a weird guy...adntehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00101061288515755372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161664332562792252006-10-24T00:32:00.000-04:002006-10-24T00:32:00.000-04:00i don't know if T.O. knows what the phrase "like I...i don't know if T.O. knows what the phrase "like I said" means. he must have said it 20 times in his post-game interview, without actually repeating himself at all.Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04121517817076295296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161662143797589212006-10-23T23:55:00.000-04:002006-10-23T23:55:00.000-04:00Way to go Dan, 3-10 on the week and a good way to ...Way to go Dan, 3-10 on the week and a good way to end it with you getting the Giants game wrong because you still think they are the 16th best team in the league. It's okay, i'd rather the Patriots succumb to the Shanoff curse.Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161642267090139372006-10-23T18:24:00.000-04:002006-10-23T18:24:00.000-04:00Vick? Breakout game? Yea, keep dreaming moron. ...Vick? Breakout game? Yea, keep dreaming moron. 60% completion, decent, but better than his normal. 2 INT's, both completely his fault. What's so special? Doesn't this debate happen once a year, Vick has a stand out game and everyone claims "He's figured it out!" then he resumes being a horrible QB again.<BR/><BR/>I watched that game, if the Steelers don't cough it up inside their own 30 3 times the Falcons are NEVER in that game. When a drive started in Steeler territory, they were ok, but when they had to go any kind of distance he was his old self. <BR/><BR/>LT had 4 TD's last week, yes, he is great, but he didn't have a great rushing week. They just decided to give him the ball at the 1yd line 4 times instead of pass to Gates once or twice. TD's as a "stat" are meaningless, it all depends on who is the coaches pet when the ball gets inside the 20.Marcus Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17020660877653524405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161642057665353022006-10-23T18:20:00.000-04:002006-10-23T18:20:00.000-04:00Should a kick being "clutch" require that if you m...Should a kick being "clutch" require that if you miss you lose? Adam V's kick in the tuck game tied it in regulation - clutch. The OT kick could be considered clutch given the likely ramifications of missing. However all of his Superbowl kicks were with the score tied. At worst they go to OT. Should those be considered clutch?chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161635807327220122006-10-23T16:36:00.000-04:002006-10-23T16:36:00.000-04:00Troy,Yeah, i was in a bar watching the games when ...Troy,<BR/><BR/>Yeah, i was in a bar watching the games when it happened. After the touchdown, all the Eagles fans (and man, there were TONS. There are more Eagles and Bears fans than any of the NY teams) started the "E-A-G-L-E-S, EAGLES" cheer. Everyone was jumping around and giving high fives...and then the tension started rising when the Bucs drove, and no one said a word when they lined up to kick. Then it went in. Total quiet. Total shock.<BR/><BR/>Until some Steelers fan in the back started laughing.<BR/><BR/>Honestly, great times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161635477525124452006-10-23T16:31:00.000-04:002006-10-23T16:31:00.000-04:00chrth- Completely agree and you probably said it b...chrth- Completely agree and you probably said it better than I did. Dan has used "instant history" and "greatest.ever." to generate arguements. IMO, he embraces it to get the conversation started. It's become his style to get the conversation started. I can't speak for Dan, but I believe that Dan's purpose has always been to get people talking and debating everything. That's why the MQ was fantastic.<BR/><BR/>It's a trend nowadays to say what is happening now is the "greatest ever". The USC football team...uhm..they lost. The NY Yankees 2006 playoff lineup..uhm.. nope. It's become the "cool" way to make what is happening now interesting so people will pay attention and to add hype to something. And Simmons calls them on it in his article, that's it.jhawkjjmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297634924511036895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161634307379102522006-10-23T16:11:00.000-04:002006-10-23T16:11:00.000-04:00This is true. But then, it was really funny for n...This is true. But then, it was really funny for non-Eagles fans because all the people in green at the stadium looked really obnoxious on TV after that 50-yard touchdown and then had these looks of pure "you have got to be <I>shitting</I> me" after the field goal went in. Just fun times (for non-Eagles fans).TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161633333047692082006-10-23T15:55:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:55:00.000-04:00@ Troy: yeah, it was a fun surprise......unnnnless...@ Troy: <BR/><BR/>yeah, it was a fun surprise...<BR/><BR/>...unnnnless you're an Eagles fan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161632556722511502006-10-23T15:42:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:42:00.000-04:00But Adam V kicked his in horrible weather with eve...But Adam V kicked his in horrible weather with everything on the line.<BR/><BR/>Bryant kicked his for a team already out of the playoff race in a situation that was considered a loss already--he really shouldn't have had any stress since there was no reason for anyone to expect him to make it. It was really just a fun surprise that it went in.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161632404198662492006-10-23T15:40:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:40:00.000-04:00Not anymore. It was in a Chat Bill did a few week...Not anymore. It was in a Chat Bill did a few weeks ago, but the comment re: the Quickie (something along the lines of 'wished he worked as hard on that as he did the blog') was eliminated from the Chat Wrap.<BR/><BR/>If you go through Dan's archives, though, you should be able to find it.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161631934207504552006-10-23T15:32:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:32:00.000-04:00i think i've read everything sports guys written a...i think i've read everything sports guys written and i don't know what this is in reference to... "I think the reason Bill wasn't fond of the DQ was...."<BR/><BR/>when did bill say he wasn't fond of the DQ?<BR/><BR/>is there a quote?GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161631644392191172006-10-23T15:27:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:27:00.000-04:00jhawkjim:I'd say that Dan uses it as a starting po...jhawkjim:<BR/><BR/>I'd say that Dan uses it as a starting point for discussion; say that Event X is Greatest. Event. Ever. and then the masses respond with Well, Event V has to be considered better, and don't forget Event J, etc.<BR/><BR/>I think Bill's main problem is with columnists who don't have discussions. They just declare something as Greatest Event Ever and the readership is just supposed to nod like sheep. I think the reason Bill wasn't fond of the DQ was because he didn't taken into consideration the MQ, which was pretty much a discussion/response to the DQ. If you look at the DQ in a vacuum, Dan was guilty of the same crime as the columnists. If you look at it as part of the whole Quickie Experience, than Dan shouldn't be offended by Bill's comments because he's not really the target.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161630141377800082006-10-23T15:02:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:02:00.000-04:00As far as good kicks go...Yeah Vinatieri's kicks w...As far as good kicks go...<BR/><BR/>Yeah Vinatieri's kicks were clutch but the reality is they were from 45 (in the snow to tie playoff game), 28 (in the snow to win playoff game), 48 (to win superbowl but in a dome), and 41 (to win super bowl in a dome). That's CLUTCH but not the same as back up an extra 15.<BR/><BR/>Tom Dempsey's 63 yarder was incredible, but the reality is that it's unfair. A rule was passed after that kick making the "steel hammer shoe" illegal. I'm sure kickers could kick longer field goals if they had steel plates in their shoes, that's why the NFL made it ILLEGAL.<BR/><BR/>The Jason Elam 63 was at altitude so knock it down the general 6 yard difference for kicks in Mile High and it's only 57. And, don't forget, that this was before HALFTIME, not like all the others in discussion, to win a game.<BR/><BR/>So, I'd say that Matt Bryant's 62 is the best ever here are the reasons in short.<BR/><BR/>Bryant 62 - career long was 50 at the time, to win game, 100 degrees, crazy humidity maing the ball softer and therefore doesn't go as far<BR/><BR/>Dempsey 63 - used the currently illegal "steel hammer shoe"<BR/><BR/>Vinatieri's numerous - not the same distance<BR/><BR/>Elam 63 - at altitude, not game winning<BR/><BR/>I hope you have enjoyed my coverage of the great kicks in NFL history.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161629840305683292006-10-23T14:57:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:57:00.000-04:00startvinceyoung- ok I gotchya and understand now.A...startvinceyoung- ok I gotchya and understand now.<BR/><BR/>Also, Simmons wasn't directly attacking Dan. Dan is not the only person who uses the "instant history" schtick. A lot of sports people throw around the "Best ever", "Greatest Ever" labels way too often. Actually I'd argue that Dan is different from everyone else doing this because Dan acknowledge's it completely and uses it as "his style" of things.jhawkjjmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297634924511036895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161629776389718812006-10-23T14:56:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:56:00.000-04:00Look at Favre's stats this year. He has thrown fe...Look at Favre's stats this year. He has thrown fewer inteceptions than half the quarterbacks that have played all season, while throwing more attempts than most. 2 of his 5 interceptions were balls tipped up into the air by his inexperienced receivers - not Favre's fault. Give Favre credit for changing his game from last year and keeping the Packers in competition every game after week 1.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14561089277086762996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161629383718558462006-10-23T14:49:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:49:00.000-04:00So Hasslebeck's got a Grade 2 MCL Sprain, and Big ...So Hasslebeck's got a Grade 2 MCL Sprain, and Big Ben has a concussion (talk about an unlucky streak...)<BR/><BR/>Hasslebeck's out a month (at best). Big Ben is questionable for next week.<BR/><BR/>Let me be the first to say it - there is NO reason Roethlisberger should play next week. It's the Freakin' Raiders. If they can't beat the Raiders with their defense alone, they have bigger problems than Big Ben.<BR/><BR/>Charlie Batch will be fine. He'll throw for about 240, 2 TDs and a pick. And he'll cement himself to earn a fat new contact starting somewhere next year.<BR/><BR/>Like, say, for the Raiders.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161627377134594022006-10-23T14:16:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:16:00.000-04:00Bengals stop the bleeding and are only getting hea...Bengals stop the bleeding and are only getting healthier. (Finally) solid o-line + #3 TD-threat-machine Chris Henry + the long(ish) ball + waitthebengalsplaydefensetoo? = look out NFL...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161626937470234922006-10-23T14:08:00.001-04:002006-10-23T14:08:00.001-04:00I would still go with the Vinateri Kick, that was ...I would still go with the Vinateri Kick, that was just jaw dropping good. The reason the over 60 yard kicks are not clutch per se is the fact that no expects him to make it so their is little down side. Even the Vinateri kick had some built in excuses, thats why Vanderjat's miss last year was so bad, he failed to come through in a pressure situation on a kick he has hit many times in the past, if he hits that kick it is just as clutch as any other big kick.rukrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005928545753221172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161626927592187582006-10-23T14:08:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:08:00.000-04:00Um, have you paid attention to Brett Favre's perfo...<I>Um, have you paid attention to Brett Favre's performance since Week One of last year? I'd say his 34 interceptions is pretty good cause for "hating." </I><BR/><BR/>I've paid closer attention than anyone who's not a coach for the Packers. And to somehow intimate that what Harrington did yesterday was more Favre-esque than Harrington-esque suggests someone who has watched neither QB play.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161626500636483772006-10-23T14:01:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:01:00.000-04:00"Tom Dempsey's 63-yard field goal was equaled in O..."Tom Dempsey's 63-yard field goal was equaled in October 1998 by Jason Elam of the Denver Broncos in a victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars at Mile High Stadium. Kicks generally carry farther in the rarefied Denver air if all other conditions are equal, but a 63-yard field goal is remarkable at any altitude."<BR/><BR/>http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/sports/year_in_sports/11.08.htmlBrian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161626212858982012006-10-23T13:56:00.001-04:002006-10-23T13:56:00.001-04:00Hasslebeck's out a month. Grade 2 MCL sprain.Let's...Hasslebeck's out a month. Grade 2 MCL sprain.<BR/><BR/>Let's play the "win one, lose one" game.<BR/><BR/>Seattle loses @ KC, wins vs. Oakland, loses vs. Rams, wins @ SF.<BR/><BR/>Seneca Wallace is not beating the Chiefs in KC or the Rams, period. And if Hasslebeck's not 100% for SF, that game will be close.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161626178199113042006-10-23T13:56:00.000-04:002006-10-23T13:56:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161625998839509692006-10-23T13:53:00.000-04:002006-10-23T13:53:00.000-04:00Just a question to clarify: Did Jason Elam's 63-ya...Just a question to clarify: Did Jason Elam's 63-yard kick come at Denver elevation? I don't know, but I figured one of you might know.Dan Shanoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126386161198401693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161625641924922232006-10-23T13:47:00.000-04:002006-10-23T13:47:00.000-04:00*shakes head*Too much Big Ben hatin'! This year h...*shakes head*<BR/>Too much Big Ben hatin'! This year has been rough, to be sure. <BR/>Hardly bad enough to write an epitaph though.<BR/>Big Ben will lead the Steelers to #6 within the next 3 years. <BR/><BR/>I will give props to Vick though...true, he had a very short field 3 times, but his passes were money. Too bad he can only do this once a year.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.com