tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116169307380448508..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Tuesday A.M. Quickie:Cowboys' QB ControversyDo You Like Romo or Bledsoe?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161733756214739522006-10-24T19:49:00.000-04:002006-10-24T19:49:00.000-04:00>>solomonrex said... I'm only making one point her...>>solomonrex said... <BR/>I'm only making one point here:<BR/>if I don't trust Dan's football rankings, I'm sure not trusting his foreign policy views.>><BR/><BR/>To invoke our man Dan: biggest chuckle ever (for now).EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161721481602312822006-10-24T16:24:00.000-04:002006-10-24T16:24:00.000-04:00Since the foundation has no allegiance, I would th...<I><BR/>Since the foundation has no allegiance, I would think that supporters of it are more likely to be supporters of Pat...and his viewpoints. So, I guess I'm leaning back to understanding Dan's point more. <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>I would think supporters of Pat range across all political viewpoints. The man died doing something he thought was right. He had a life of luxury and he gave it up (some would say threw it away). He did something very few Americans would ever do, and for that he should be admired regardless of where you stand on the administration.<BR/><BR/>While I don't doubt his brother's sincerity, I fear he'll become another tool and end up hurting the Pat Tillman legacy.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161720217306864052006-10-24T16:03:00.000-04:002006-10-24T16:03:00.000-04:00Since the foundation has no allegiance, I would th...Since the foundation has no allegiance, I would think that supporters of it are more likely to be supporters of Pat...and his viewpoints. So, I guess I'm leaning back to understanding Dan's point more.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305096508964522753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161717701241522532006-10-24T15:21:00.000-04:002006-10-24T15:21:00.000-04:00@Sean (Pittsburgh):The reason the foundation doesn...@Sean (Pittsburgh):<BR/><BR/>The reason the foundation doesn't lean towards either viewpoint is because right now the foundation is trying to raise money to disburse. At this stage in the game, the intelligent decision is to take no public position that would alienate any contributors. Once it has a large enough endowment that it can start funding efforts, it may reveal a political face. But even that is tricky, because opinions shift rapidly. In 1994 Clinton looked like a sure goner in 1996 and he won. In early 1992 HW Bush looked like a sure victor so none of the 'first-tier' Dem candidates run (before Clinton-backers get on my case, the Clintons themselves have admitted that the initial reason for running in 1992 was to position themselves for 1996) but HW loses. Etc.<BR/><BR/>So to sum up: if the goal of a foundation is to be charitable (in any sense of the word), it maximizes its ability to help others by maintaining a neutral position on issues that are not directly tied into goals of the foundation.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161716556768247112006-10-24T15:02:00.000-04:002006-10-24T15:02:00.000-04:00Sure, Bledsoe can still sling it behind a good O-l...Sure, Bledsoe can still sling it behind a good O-line, but Dallas doesn't have that! I liked the point that the MNF guys said about Romo's mobility freeing the TE to move out from blocking into the flat as a safety-valve receiver. With a little time, I think Romo could be decent.<BR/><BR/>And if nothing else, Romo is a hell of a lot more exciting to watch than Bledsoe.CorrNDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15371462855078578516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161713986484066212006-10-24T14:19:00.000-04:002006-10-24T14:19:00.000-04:00I'm only making one point here:if I don't trust Da...I'm only making one point here:<BR/>if I don't trust Dan's football rankings, I'm sure not trusting his foreign policy views.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161711562432585812006-10-24T13:39:00.000-04:002006-10-24T13:39:00.000-04:00You may have a point, honestly. I guess I find it...You may have a point, honestly. I guess I find it a little hard to distinguish between the man and the foundation...but, of course, the foundation was created by his family and not by Pat himself.<BR/><BR/>Are you suggesting that is the case because his foundation does not appear to lean in favor of either viewpoint?Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305096508964522753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161710268830590072006-10-24T13:17:00.000-04:002006-10-24T13:17:00.000-04:00chrth - Can you really not see the disconnect? Pat...<I>chrth - Can you really not see the disconnect? Pat was very right leaning in his views. The assumption can be made the Kevin was as well and that's why the joined the rangers together. His new view points are completely opposite. That's very obvious.</I><BR/><BR/>I'm not challenging Kevin's disconnect, I'm challenging Dan's assertion that "unwavering supporters of this administration who double as the same football fans who respect Pat Tillman feel about the contradiction." My point is that there is no contradiction, that one can support Pat Tillman regardless of where they stand on the administration. And vice versa. Just because Kevin Tillman or Cindy Sheehan or whomever has a viewpoint does not immediately mean that his brother or her son is posthumously in opposition to the cause they died for.<BR/><BR/>On Sideline Reporters: Normally I hate them, but I must admit, some good questions were asked of Jerry Jones last night about the Bledsoe/Romo switch.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161709611299674172006-10-24T13:06:00.000-04:002006-10-24T13:06:00.000-04:00chrth - Can you really not see the disconnect? Pa...chrth - Can you really not see the disconnect? Pat was very right leaning in his views. The assumption can be made the Kevin was as well and that's why the joined the rangers together. His new view points are completely opposite. That's very obvious.<BR/><BR/>todd ching - Did you read any of the comments on the article? You said we should listen "anytime a former soldier and family of one speaks out". There are plenty of vets who were have fought and who have been involved that commented STRONGLY against Kevin's views. You need to listen to them just the same. Maybe you didn't because you said we should only listen to those speaking out "against the war". I think you should listen to BOTH SIDES.<BR/><BR/>Just my two cents...Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305096508964522753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161708595197994002006-10-24T12:49:00.000-04:002006-10-24T12:49:00.000-04:00No, the sideline reporter "eye candy" is really la...No, the sideline reporter "eye candy" is really lame and annoying for me at least. <BR/><BR/>Then again, that could just be because most of the women aren't really that attractive (always above average but never knockout status). If they were knockout status, perhaps I'd feel differently. <BR/><BR/>Sad to say, that's my opinion on the matter.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161708260622260842006-10-24T12:44:00.000-04:002006-10-24T12:44:00.000-04:00Let me ask you guys out there....Do you enjoy the ...Let me ask you guys out there....<BR/><BR/>Do you enjoy the chicks that do the sidelines interviews? We know that's why they are there...as eye candy, but do they annoy you guys with their questions and interruptions in the game?<BR/><BR/>As a female, and one that would think that interviewing football coaches/players would be the coolest job, I get so annoyed by these ladies. They ask the DUMBEST questions that no one really cares about the answer to, or that are SO rhetorical and don't even NEED to be answered. I know it's probably the list of five questions that she is told to ask, but they are dumb, time-wasting and annoying.<BR/><BR/>Ok, someone must have taken a wizz in my Cheerios today!Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161707956688643192006-10-24T12:39:00.000-04:002006-10-24T12:39:00.000-04:00I feel bad for Drew, but I could care less who sta...I feel bad for Drew, but I could care less who starts at QB for the Cowgirls. Maybe Drew will come to Cleveland...he'd start for sure since Charlie Frye is going to get his bell rung one time too many here in the near future.<BR/><BR/>I hate being a Browns fan...I just had to get that off my chest. <BR/><BR/>God Bless the Scarlet and Gray. At least one day of my weekend consists of victorious football.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161706381062242152006-10-24T12:13:00.000-04:002006-10-24T12:13:00.000-04:00Is it too late to change up the Monday Night footb...Is it too late to change up the Monday Night football gang? ESPN would have been much better off leaving their Sunday night crew together. They had good chemistry and were easy to listen to. The 3 guys they have now are kind of painful to listen to.<BR/><BR/>That and they need to lose the in game interview. I don't care how many times people ask Hank Williams if he's ready for some football.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16291036839803295637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161703454573837202006-10-24T11:24:00.000-04:002006-10-24T11:24:00.000-04:00nyc-steeler and todd ching:Its not that I don't ca...nyc-steeler and todd ching:<BR/><BR/>Its not that I don't care about the issues. Trust me, I do. However, since this is a sports blog with a comments section, the ramifications of including political discussion could start a terrible flame-fest between people like us who post the comments.<BR/><BR/>For example, what if Mr. Shanoff and posted his views on abortion and why?<BR/><BR/>Its his blog and he should run it how he sees fit. I'm just putting in my two cents. =)<BR/><BR/>guyinthecorner-<BR/><BR/>I thought the disparity between the Sox payroll and the A's payroll wasn't that big so thank you for correcting me on it.<BR/><BR/>I guess I'm still a little peeved at Beane for his comments regarding Kenny Williams in his book. Regardless, Williams still got the last laugh.<BR/><BR/>And yes, I'm definitely a White Sox fan.Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161703051544779402006-10-24T11:17:00.000-04:002006-10-24T11:17:00.000-04:00To tie it into sports, would anyone expect that Mi...<I><BR/>To tie it into sports, would anyone expect that Michigan would be greeted as liberators if they conquered Ohio St? I think not.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Well, they would've when John Cooper was coach. But if they had put John L. Smith in charge instead of Jim Tressel, then I imagine by now the Buckeye fans would be in open revolt.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161702629321011712006-10-24T11:10:00.000-04:002006-10-24T11:10:00.000-04:00I'm really surprised that Tillman's brother's stor...I'm really surprised that Tillman's brother's story hasn't gotten more publicity. Originally ESPN.com linked it at as just saying that he "broke the silence", and didn't mention on the front page that he was speaking out against the war. Not sure if that's because a lot of the sports-buffs are traditionally considered right-leaning or what. <BR/><BR/>Still though, anytime a former soldier and family of one speaks out against the war, we should listen. Who would know better, after all? <BR/><BR/>The problem is Dan Mega, that people don't pay enough attention to things like this, which actually affect the life and death of people like Pat Tillman. If people had paid enough attention in the first place, they would have realized what a terrible idea it was to go into Iraq, especially with the overconfidence and lack of an exit strategy... <BR/><BR/>To tie it into sports, would anyone expect that Michigan would be greeted as liberators if they conquered Ohio St? I think not.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161702418334211452006-10-24T11:06:00.000-04:002006-10-24T11:06:00.000-04:00My favorite saying is "If there were no soldiers, ...<I>My favorite saying is "If there were no soldiers, there'd be no war." </I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, good luck with that. You realize the US Military has only been voluntary for 30 years, right? <BR/><BR/>As for Pat Tillman/Administration support, etc., I don't see the disconnect that Dan is insinuating. Tillman is admired because he was living what many would consider the good life and gave that up to his defend his country. Tillman's actions were specifically for the response of 9/11, and what has happened since does not change that.<BR/><BR/>As for Kevin Tillman, the problem with this as well as the countless other similar diatribes made by people who don't have famous brothers is that it doesn't really change anything. Bush ain't going anywhere until January 20th, 2009, and electing Democrats in November ain't going to change that. In fact, if the Democrats win overwhelmingly this fall, don't be surprised if they overplay their hand and lose in 2008 a la 1994/1996. And anyone who thinks there's a substantial difference between Democrats and Republicans is drunk or high or something. The only real choice is to vote third party, but as Kodos said: <I>Go ahead, throw away your vote!</I>Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161702171656637872006-10-24T11:02:00.001-04:002006-10-24T11:02:00.001-04:00Dan Mega-Are you a white sox fan by any chance???a...Dan Mega-<BR/><BR/>Are you a white sox fan by any chance???<BR/><BR/>after these two quotes:<BR/>"They did, in fact, cover up steroids to bring baseball back to life in the late 90's (as did the Chicago Tribune with Sosa and the Cubs- they blamed it all on the Sox fans as usual)."<BR/>and:<BR/>"World Series Titles:<BR/>Kenny Williams 1<BR/>Billy Beane 0"<BR/>i'm not sure i know if you're a sox fan<BR/><BR/>and by the way im no Billy Bean fan or mathamatician but the year the White Sox won the series they had a payroll of $75,178,000 with a a median of $2,000,000 and the A's had a $55,425,762 with a mean of $591,667 so...<BR/>and this year the white sox missed the playoffs with a $102,750,667 and a mean of $2,325,000 while the A's swept into the ALCS with a payroll of $62,243,079 and a median of $800,000<BR/><BR/>and your profile says you're from chicago, i just couldn't figure out if you were a white sox fan or notGuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161702169257549912006-10-24T11:02:00.000-04:002006-10-24T11:02:00.000-04:00Dan Mega-Are you a white sox fan by any chance???a...Dan Mega-<BR/><BR/>Are you a white sox fan by any chance???<BR/><BR/>after these two quotes:<BR/>"They did, in fact, cover up steroids to bring baseball back to life in the late 90's (as did the Chicago Tribune with Sosa and the Cubs- they blamed it all on the Sox fans as usual)."<BR/>and:<BR/>"World Series Titles:<BR/>Kenny Williams 1<BR/>Billy Beane 0"<BR/>i'm not sure i know if you're a sox fan<BR/><BR/>and by the way im no Billy Bean fan or mathamatician but the year the White Sox won the series they had a payroll of $75,178,000 with a a median of $2,000,000 and the A's had a $55,425,762 with a mean of $591,667 so...<BR/>and this year the white sox missed the playoffs with a $102,750,667 and a mean of $2,325,000 while the A's swept into the ALCS with a payroll of $62,243,079 and a median of $800,000<BR/><BR/>and your profile says you're from chicago, i just couldn't figure out if you were a white sox fan or notGuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161700056765590102006-10-24T10:27:00.000-04:002006-10-24T10:27:00.000-04:00Regarding Pat Tillman, if you're stupid enough to ...Regarding Pat Tillman, if you're stupid enough to join the army and trust your life to the crooks and liars in Washington, well then you might just die. My favorite saying is "If there were no soldiers, there'd be no war."Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353671003212539401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161699455240311852006-10-24T10:17:00.000-04:002006-10-24T10:17:00.000-04:00Revscottlol Yes, the Redhawks suck at football th...Revscott<BR/><BR/>lol Yes, the Redhawks suck at football this year. Hockey is #7 in the nation though! Woo<BR/><BR/>I was a Braves fan from 88-94..i left baseball after the strike. I hated the McGuire-Sosa thing in 98, but the Reds fun run in 99 brought me back. Reds fan since then (I always liked Pete Rose too).<BR/>Not a native Ohioan...don't wear Scarlet and Gray colored glasses. <BR/>I follow the Steelers because the best quarterback to come out of a college (yeah, Miami U...not tOSU)in the state of Ohio plays for the Steelers. hehe<BR/>Browns suck, Bengals aren't far behind. There ya go.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161698845081461132006-10-24T10:07:00.001-04:002006-10-24T10:07:00.001-04:00Best owners - the Rooney family, Mark CubanBest owners - the Rooney family, Mark CubanJoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08338217120051516790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161698826203521312006-10-24T10:07:00.000-04:002006-10-24T10:07:00.000-04:00Best owner in sports?The public - owners of the Gr...Best owner in sports?<BR/><BR/>The public - owners of the Green Bay Packers.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14561089277086762996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161698626342634652006-10-24T10:03:00.000-04:002006-10-24T10:03:00.000-04:00Best owner in sports?The public - owners of the Gr...Best owner in sports?<BR/><BR/>The public - owners of the Green Bay Packers.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14561089277086762996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1161697377873304672006-10-24T09:42:00.000-04:002006-10-24T09:42:00.000-04:00Rafael...where in Ohio are you from? If you like ...Rafael...where in Ohio are you from? If you like the Reds...how on earth can you like the Steelers? I oughtta punch you right in the baby maker for that one. That being said...the Redhawks blooooooooooow (what year did you graduate?). But Ohio State rules the world and everyone knows that God wears a sweater vest.RevScottDeMangeMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220843774217781967noreply@blogger.com