tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116215301602932066..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: NFL Week 8 Wrap-UpUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162253165407366332006-10-30T19:06:00.000-05:002006-10-30T19:06:00.000-05:00Overall the two conferences are about equal, but a...Overall the two conferences are about equal, but at the top there is a dominence in the AFC. The big three "should" beat 15/16 NFC teams regularly. Despite not wanting to think highly of them, Chicago looks competitive with IND, NE, & DEN.<BR/><BR/>@Solomonrex: Excellent Rochambeau AFC prediction! Spots 4-6 become REALLY important for seeding in that scenario!chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162227234427474972006-10-30T11:53:00.000-05:002006-10-30T11:53:00.000-05:00There's no way the Bears should be favored, they'r...<I><BR/>There's no way the Bears should be favored, they're in an incredibly weak conference.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Did you miss my earlier point? Didn't anybody learn anything last week?<BR/><BR/>Besides, the AFC-NFC matchups are split right now, 16-16. The idea that the AFC is stronger than the NFC is laughable.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162226774225792612006-10-30T11:46:00.000-05:002006-10-30T11:46:00.000-05:00There's no way the Bears should be favored, they'r...There's no way the Bears should be favored, they're in an incredibly weak conference.<BR/><BR/>Here's how you predict the Super Bowl:<BR/>Denver beats NE<BR/>NE beats Indy<BR/>Indy beats Denver.<BR/><BR/>No one else matter, it's just rock-paper-scissors in the AFC playoffs, and no one else can be taken seriously, certainly not Mr. Grossman. So whatever order these three teams play each other in the playoffs this year decides everything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162226150365402712006-10-30T11:35:00.001-05:002006-10-30T11:35:00.001-05:00Who else could you reasonably have as MVP other th...Who else could you reasonably have as MVP other than Peyton? He's on pace for 4500 yards, 34 tds, 4 ints and 16 wins.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353671003212539401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162220886293975982006-10-30T10:08:00.000-05:002006-10-30T10:08:00.000-05:00@chipp : The Patriots missed the playoffs after th...@chipp : <I>The Patriots missed the playoffs after their first SB win (7-9).</I><BR/><BR/>They were actually 9-7 in 2002, just barely missed the playoffs. Worse teams have made the playoffs since.Bobmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01604050338240551711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162217068931143412006-10-30T09:04:00.000-05:002006-10-30T09:04:00.000-05:00chrth,I see 8-8 for the Packers. I agree with you...chrth,<BR/>I see 8-8 for the Packers. I agree with your projected wins/losses. One other thing to take into account is that the play Chicago in week 17. If the bears are 14-1 or 13-2 then, with homefield advantage locked up, they may play back-ups and give the Packers a chance. I'm still holding out for 12-4 too though.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14561089277086762996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162215508281654862006-10-30T08:38:00.000-05:002006-10-30T08:38:00.000-05:00@ Mark:Not sure what "pattern" you're referring to...<I>@ Mark</I>:<BR/><BR/>Not sure what "pattern" you're referring to here, but Indy has only won one game in Foxboro in recent memory - last year in the regular season.<BR/><BR/>They haven't beaten the Pats, in Foxboro (or Indy, for that matter), other than that one game, since about 2002. I might be wrong, but I cannot remember one other time that Peyton led the Colts to a win over New England since then.<BR/><BR/>That's why when the schedule comes out every year, all of the "pundits" around the New England area talk about how the schedule makers did the Colts no favors - they keep putting them in Foxboro, usually after the mid-way point of the year.<BR/><BR/>I think it's going to be a hell of a game next week. I would love to see the Pats win, but I hope Belichick has more sense than Shanahan and makes sure to leave <I>no</I> time on the clock for Peyton to work with...Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162215109261596392006-10-30T08:31:00.000-05:002006-10-30T08:31:00.000-05:00if you don't make the playoffs, does a respectable...<I><BR/>if you don't make the playoffs, does a respectable record make a sound? <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>If you sucked the previous year, yes. If you won the Super Bowl, no. But take heart--New England was lousy after their first SB win. And then won the next 2.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162215014445083692006-10-30T08:30:00.000-05:002006-10-30T08:30:00.000-05:00Speaking of the Packers, does anyone else see an 8...Speaking of the Packers, does anyone else see an 8-8 season for them?<BR/><BR/>They're at 3-4 (oddly, the only team in the league at 3-4).<BR/>Remaining possible wins:<BR/>Buffalo<BR/>San Fran<BR/>Detroit<BR/>Jets<BR/><BR/>Remaining likely losses:<BR/>Chicago<BR/>Seattle<BR/>New England<BR/><BR/>They also play Minnesota twice. It's conceivable they'll steal one. 8-8.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I'm secretly rooting for 12-4, but I am a realist. 8-8 would be a nice improvement after last year.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162214782238017752006-10-30T08:26:00.000-05:002006-10-30T08:26:00.000-05:00The NFC is the Mountain West this year and Chicago...<I><BR/>The NFC is the Mountain West this year and Chicago is Boise State. The AFC is still way ahead and will win the Super Bowl.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>I would like to modify the above quote. See if you can catch the connection:<BR/><BR/><I>The NL is the Mountain West this year and St. Louis is Boise State. The AL is still way ahead and will win the World Series.</I><BR/><BR/>Lesson (hopefully) learned.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162203192187674122006-10-30T05:13:00.000-05:002006-10-30T05:13:00.000-05:00I still can't summon any concern about NFL footbal...I still can't summon any concern about NFL football action, but I can ask random stupid questions about people.<BR/><BR/><BR/>What's up with Bill Parcells twisting TO's hat and giving out kisses on the sidelines?<BR/><BR/>Has anybody ever dressed as trashy as this Romo guy in a postgame press conference?<BR/><BR/>That's all, really.john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162195778883212612006-10-30T03:09:00.000-05:002006-10-30T03:09:00.000-05:00Also, it's the NFL. When through eight weeks one t...Also, it's the NFL. When through eight weeks one team has scored the most points and surrended the fewest, and lost no games, that team is without a doubt the best team in the league. It's hard to argue otherwise.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06508213626405464088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162195642115672062006-10-30T03:07:00.000-05:002006-10-30T03:07:00.000-05:00Who ARE good teams? The Giants are 5-2 and played ...Who ARE good teams? The Giants are 5-2 and played the Colts really tough. The Seahawks destroyed the Giants. The Bears destroyed the Seahawks. The AFC is the only legit conference? Ok. The Rams beat the Broncos. The Seahawks beat the Rams. The Bears killed the Seahawks. More? The Bills almost beat New England. The Bears killed the Bills. <BR/><BR/>They're literally doing all they can. According to what you're saying, with their schedule so far it's impossible that they're the best team in the league- whether they are, or not. That's BS. <BR/><BR/>Also, while the AFC had a good day today, season record says the two leagues about dead even. The "elites" in the AFC aren't beating anybody either. New England's big win is Cinci. Cinci, who lost to Tampa. Indy's big win is the Giants or the Broncos. Who've been pasted by the Seahawks and Rams, respectively. And on, and on. <BR/><BR/>Check the head-to-head records. The leagues are closer than you think. The NFC just has more competitive balance and has had some key injuries to Seattle.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06508213626405464088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162192704753736012006-10-30T02:18:00.000-05:002006-10-30T02:18:00.000-05:00Is Huard doing well enough that he will get trade/...Is Huard doing well enough that he will get trade/free agent offers (I'm not sure of his current contract status) to become some lame ducks savior? Oakland, Detroit, Green Bay, Tampa, Washington, and Houston should all have off-season QB competitions.<BR/><BR/>The Patriots missed the playoffs after their first SB win (7-9).chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162190249496373812006-10-30T01:37:00.000-05:002006-10-30T01:37:00.000-05:00You can only beat the teams on your schedule. I do...You can only beat the teams on your schedule. I don't remember reading any quotes from the Bears saying their asses should be crowned. Good teams beat the teams they're supposed to beat. The line on the Niners game was 16 1/2. They covered that (41-10). <BR/><BR/>Same thing with the whole Urlacher 2nd most overrated player poll SI did. 29 out of 361 players polled thought he was the most overrated. Urlacher didn't nominate himself for Defensive Player of the Year. Did it make the Carolina loss feel any better? He is a great linebacker. That he draws attention from the media, who are the "raters," isn't his fault. Don't tout him so much, and he won't be overrated. That doesn't make him less of a player though.Danielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03486681777716496640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162187735098377312006-10-30T00:55:00.000-05:002006-10-30T00:55:00.000-05:00Let's rephrase that Bears post a little more even-...Let's rephrase that Bears post a little more even-handedly.<BR/><BR/>So far, the Bears have beaten...<BR/><BR/>--The Packers, who mostly suck.<BR/>--The Lions, who thoroughly suck.<BR/>--The Vikings, who are at least decent.<BR/>--The Seahawks, who were missing their main offensive threat, and in any case are clearly not the same team they were last year.<BR/>--The Bills, who pretty much suck.<BR/>--The Cardinals, who are not only cover-your-eyes awful, but who nearly won.<BR/>--The 49ers, who just plain suck.<BR/><BR/>So . . . whom have they beaten again?<BR/><BR/>Compare the Colts, who have already beaten two certain playoff teams (Giants and Broncs) one other legit contender (the Jags), and one near-contender in the Jets.markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367754765898020281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162184115312348502006-10-29T23:55:00.000-05:002006-10-29T23:55:00.000-05:00The Packers are now 3-4, which is not too bad. The...The Packers are now 3-4, which is not too bad. The Bears beat them 26-0 in Green Bay. The Lions are horrible, but when the Bears played them they'd just come off a close loss to the Seahawks and were brimming with confidence. Bears beat them 34-7. Minnesota had had big wins against Carolina and Washington and was unbeaten. Bears went in, played badly, and still won 19-16. Seattle came in unbeaten and confident. They'd lost Alexander (who had been ineffective anyway) but had just added Branch. The Bears beat them 37-6. The Buffalo Bills came in having just upset the Vikings, McGahee leading the league in rushing, and Losman suddenly looking like a real QB with a future. The Bears beat them 40-7, Losman hasn't (and will never) recover, and McGahee is still wondering what happened. Then came the trap game. The Cardinals gave it their all. Hot young QB, Monday Night showcase, chance to salvage the season and Green's job. They were up. Bears played the worst game, offensively and defensively, they'll play all year. Lost time of possession 40 minutes to 20. Turned it over 6 times. Scored 3 points on offense. Were down 20 with a quarter to go. Won anyway. This week, the Bears were up 41-0 at half. That's the second biggest halftime lead in NFL history. The Bears were up 10-0, and before Alex Smith ever saw the field the game was over. <BR/><BR/>At home they've outscored their opponents 152-30. No other NFC team has any fewer than two losses, which means if they beat the Giants in NY, they'll all but lock up home field. Crown their asses.paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06508213626405464088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162181932151788772006-10-29T23:18:00.000-05:002006-10-29T23:18:00.000-05:00@eric: No, watching your team when they have a gr...@eric: No, watching your team when they have a great offense is MUCH more fun than watching a team with great D. The whole "Peyton Manning, Football Genius" thing is way overplayed, but having that offense makes for fantastic theatre. Your team is never out of it, you never know quite what they'll pull out of the hat--and it also means (for cap reasons) that the defense sucks, so you're never quite sure how many points is going to be enough. Watching the Colts is sometimes nerve-wracking, but it's never ever boring.<BR/><BR/>The Bears last year, when they really had no offense but were winning games on defense, were about as entertaining as watching the Chicago River freeze over. Trust me, I know--I live in Chicago, and if you live here you're force-fed the Bears, and when you admit to even a little indifference about them, people look at you like you're some strange traitor. (And I have also spend more than one procrastinating afternoon at work last winter watching the river, too...) <BR/><BR/>@ Big D: Indy will win next week. The pattern, you surely have realized by now, is that they beat the Pats, even in Foxboro, so long as there's nothing on the line. It's the games that <I>count</I> that they drop.markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367754765898020281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162180463945571802006-10-29T22:54:00.000-05:002006-10-29T22:54:00.000-05:00As a Steelers fan this is one bad season to watch....As a Steelers fan this is one bad season to watch. It's one thing if we didn't have the talent. Like in '03, we went 6-10, but Maddox was never the same after that neck/head injury he suffered the year before, and our O-Line was in shambles. Hey, that's fine, we don't have the players.<BR/><BR/>This year? We have the talent. We just keep shooting ourselves in the foot. It was Big Ben this game, the Cincy game was blown because of fumbles by Coclough and Haynes. Last week was the 3 fumbles by Holmes, Okobe, and Parker that cost us. All of these resulted in a very short field and very cheap touchdowns for our opponents.<BR/><BR/>Subtract those boneheaded mentally retarded plays and we are 5-2. Just disgusting. But mark my words, next year, we'll be back.<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I don't blame Cowher for starting Big Ben. Look, if Batch had started, we would have won, but how would Big Ben have faired against Denver and NO the following weeks? <BR/><BR/>Look what happened when he was just thrown back into the mix against the Jags, Cincy, and San Diego. 3 very tough games. Let him get back on his feet with an easy W. But oops, he shit the bed.Marcus Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17020660877653524405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162180354823829462006-10-29T22:52:00.000-05:002006-10-29T22:52:00.000-05:00Hey, on the Sage Rosenfels; don't forget about his...Hey, on the Sage Rosenfels; don't forget about his 4th quarter 275 yard, Multi-TD performance for Miami in a comeback win against the Bills.Brew City Legendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05160833124774594547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162179406120234492006-10-29T22:36:00.000-05:002006-10-29T22:36:00.000-05:00"it has got to suck to be big ben. He sucks. Has a..."it has got to suck to be big ben. He sucks. Has a super bowl winning team ever sucked as bad the following year as the steelers do this year." <BR/><BR/>Off the top of my head, I'm thinking Broncos in 1999, after Elway retired and Davis' knee got blown out. That collapse was a hell of a lot more understandable than this one though.Myles!https://www.blogger.com/profile/08737765181093893033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162176029253785352006-10-29T21:40:00.000-05:002006-10-29T21:40:00.000-05:00Horatio- wasn't this Carr's first real "bad" game ...Horatio- wasn't this Carr's first real "bad" game of the season? From what I've read he has been doing fantastic so far, even though he <B>still</B> has no offensive line.<BR/><BR/>Oh and does anyone still question on whether the Bears are the best team in the NFL?Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162175554659004652006-10-29T21:32:00.000-05:002006-10-29T21:32:00.000-05:00Sorry, make that the DEN defense that I'm bashing ...Sorry, make that the DEN defense that I'm bashing on. Their O looked pretty good (against a suspect IND D) which makes them contenders.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162175394436186992006-10-29T21:29:00.000-05:002006-10-29T21:29:00.000-05:00P Manning: 32/39, 345 3-0; 437 yds, 34 pts - WOW, ...P Manning: 32/39, 345 3-0; 437 yds, 34 pts - WOW, that Denver offense sure is good! Will people finally shut up about how good they are now that they've played a team with something better than a practice squad offense? Too bad I hate IND...<BR/><BR/>OAK is now tied for the 5th longest winning streak in the NFL!<BR/><BR/>NYJ offense only gets 2 FGs? Chad: 39.3% completion: Ugh.<BR/><BR/>LDT: 7.3 YPC - Rams run over.<BR/><BR/>Barber Bowl: Tiki 2.6 YPC, Ronde 7 T & Plaxico TD right over him - it's a wash.<BR/><BR/>Trouble in CHI: they've been outscored 10-0 in their last 2 quarters (by my staunch 49ers no less). :)<BR/><BR/>SEA v KC: Both QBs looked OK. LJ: 39 carries? How long will that last?<BR/><BR/>McNabb under 60% for the year: he has too many floaters that kill drives.<BR/><BR/>Jeff Fisher is a good coach: PIT was smart to keep Cowher during a few down years and TEN should keep Fisher. [Aside: His career could mirror Cowher's - long tenure, a Super Bowl loss, and a few down years. He should be around for the rebirth of TEN.]<BR/><BR/>I expected BAL to falter with Billick calling plays - oops. I still think they'll go down hill, but who's there to catch and pass them now?<BR/><BR/>Speaking of: Rudi finally got another TD, but 12 for 46? 22:52 TOP isn't going to help your D.<BR/><BR/>3 straight no INT games for Favre. Wait until it gets cold.<BR/><BR/>14-7 CAR in the second: I keep wanting to think highly of CAR, but 23.5% on 3rd down? Not going anywhere until that improves.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162175178108445052006-10-29T21:26:00.000-05:002006-10-29T21:26:00.000-05:00anyone notice ND get dicked over again in the poll...anyone notice ND get dicked over again in the polls? USC loses to unraked Oregon St but stays ahead of teams (ND included) who loss to ranked teams (ND to the #2 school).<BR/><BR/>BS!Jake Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08201105067598986800noreply@blogger.com