tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116224056572703444..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: BCS Analysis + New Top 25:Yes, We HAVE a 4-Team PlayoffUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162305942626636572006-10-31T09:45:00.000-05:002006-10-31T09:45:00.000-05:00I am not sure how this works but anyone who has RU...I am not sure how this works but anyone who has RU in the top 5 is ok by me. <BR/><BR/>Top 25 according to the CFB Ladder Rankingsrukrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005928545753221172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162303707214945632006-10-31T09:08:00.000-05:002006-10-31T09:08:00.000-05:00Top 25 according to the CFB Ladder Rankings:1) Ohi...Top 25 according to the CFB Ladder Rankings:<BR/><BR/>1) Ohio State - 1710pts<BR/>2) Michigan - 1636pts<BR/>3) Rutgers - 1592pts<BR/>4) Louisville - 1557pts<BR/>5) Texas - 1550pts<BR/>6) Notre Dame - 1543pts<BR/>7) California - 1539pts<BR/>8) Auburn - 1529pts<BR/>9) Tennessee - 1525pts<BR/>10) Boise State - 1516pts<BR/>11) West Virginia - 1509pts<BR/>T12) Florida - 1501pts<BR/>T12) Texas A&M - 1501pts<BR/>14) Wisconsin - 1465pts<BR/>15) Tulsa - 1437pts<BR/>16) Arkansas - 1399pts<BR/>17) Clemson - 1393pts<BR/>18) USC - 1380pts<BR/>19) Oklahoma - 1379pts<BR/>20) Boston College - 1360pts<BR/>21) LSU - 1357pts<BR/>22) Brigham Young - 1341pts<BR/>23) Washington State - 1328pts<BR/>24) Georgia Tech - 1320pts<BR/>25) Wake Forest - 1313ptsFreKy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322127577984239799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162282718746651012006-10-31T03:18:00.000-05:002006-10-31T03:18:00.000-05:00Putting Cal at 14 is borderline absurd , though no...Putting Cal at 14 is borderline absurd , though not surprising from and SEC homer and a writer that makes an effort to be audacious. Cal has been substantially more impressive than SC this year and anyone that has at least watched or compared their performances against common opponents would come to that conclusion. This list merely reinforces the notion that these rankings are inherently flawed because many of these writers really aren't exposed to enough of these teams nor do they really do their homework beyond what talking heads spew out on TV or on the interweb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162277057067804932006-10-31T01:44:00.000-05:002006-10-31T01:44:00.000-05:00Speaking of those California voters, anyone think ...Speaking of those California voters, anyone think they're voting W Va number one not for any objective reason, but simply because they are USC fans and hate OSU/the Big Ten? I'm totally guessing there, but hey, they are too if they think WV is number one.adntehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00101061288515755372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162268474852125942006-10-30T23:21:00.000-05:002006-10-30T23:21:00.000-05:00Well, Dan, at least you acknowledged the 'excuse' ...Well, Dan, at least you acknowledged the 'excuse' I made for Michigan before Saturday had even ended.<BR/><BR/>I'll try again, with feeling, but I still don't care where you put WVa, as long as it isn't #1 like those 2 jackasses in California. I'm just waiting for Thursday...<BR/><BR/>Anyway - <BR/>I'll point out that Michigan started out fast and strong; with approx. 10:05 left in the first, Michigan had stopped NW solidly and taken the ball right down the field for a 7-0 lead. By the end of the first quarter, the nasty nasty rain was upon us, and Michigan stopped tempting fate in the air (after all, the defense dropped about 5 soggy Northwestern passes in the first 3 quarters).<BR/><BR/>Michigan did what they had to, and avoided giving Northwestern a chance to get back in it by means of slippery interceptions. If you're serious about thinking Michigan looked vulnerable this weekend, you're worse than most scoreboard-checkers.john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162258071248828402006-10-30T20:27:00.000-05:002006-10-30T20:27:00.000-05:00Why do people want a rematch game in the BCS champ...Why do people want a rematch game in the BCS championship game? One team will prove it is better than the other.<BR/><BR/>If Auburn and Florida meet again in the SEC championship game and Auburn wins again, they theoretically get penalized because UF will have 2 losses, but both would be to them. <BR/><BR/>Its a strange system.Matt Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12025500546395746323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162255845078257792006-10-30T19:50:00.000-05:002006-10-30T19:50:00.000-05:00How the hell do you still have BC ranked lower tha...How the hell do you still have BC ranked lower than Clemson?!? <BR/><BR/>As I seem to be the only person representing BC as an alum and who sticks up for BC on this blog (not surprising since our fans do kinda suck), I am officially outraged at this. <BR/><BR/>We beat FSU, V-Tech, a better than advertised BYU, and oh yeah, CLEMSON! And we have a great story in Apanavicius? Shouldn't you love these guys?<BR/><BR/>Oh wait... actually, now that I think about it... thanks Dan, by ranking us low and not jinxing us you're the best! <BR/><BR/>-Todd (Boston)ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162255511244738892006-10-30T19:45:00.000-05:002006-10-30T19:45:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162252626541853752006-10-30T18:57:00.000-05:002006-10-30T18:57:00.000-05:00One note about Boise State, they typically play a ...One note about Boise State, they typically play a tougher schedule then this year. It's not their fault that Fresno stinks this year. They went to Georgia last year. They play Pac-10 schools every year. And they will go play anyone, anywhere. Nobody will schedule them, or at least be fair and offer a home/home series with them.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162252412583357642006-10-30T18:53:00.000-05:002006-10-30T18:53:00.000-05:00two things, for the Big Ten guy who thinks that th...two things, for the Big Ten guy who thinks that they can get OSU, Michigan, and Wisconsin?? in the BCS, keep dreaming. There is a rule that no more then 2 teams from a BCS conference can play in the BCS games. 2nd, despite the WVU ranking, these rankings are very solid in the top 10. I really like how you ranked the SEC teams. Arkansas is undefeated in that conference, and can play Florida in the championship if they win out. They should be the team everybody is talking about.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162250624739219112006-10-30T18:23:00.000-05:002006-10-30T18:23:00.000-05:00West Virginia is a good team but there was no poin...West Virginia is a good team but there was no point in moving them over Michigan this week. WV had a few less than dominating wins earlier and just because Michigan had theirs this week they drop?<BR/>Luckily these rankings have no meaning this year because it will all take care of itself in the next month.<BR/><BR/>But I'll still say this, DON'T OVERLOOK RUTGERS!!! I know they didn't blowout UConn the way they should have but to keep them out of the Big East conversation is ludicrous. They dominated good teams like Pitt and Navy which are on par with both West Virginia's (vs Maryland) and Louisville's (vs Miami, not as impressive as it first seemed) best wins so far.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying Rutgers will run the table but they do have a shot at it.nep1293https://www.blogger.com/profile/12375055890377383689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162249453569153182006-10-30T18:04:00.000-05:002006-10-30T18:04:00.000-05:00we can guarantee whoever wins between OSU-Mich get...we can guarantee whoever wins between OSU-Mich gets to glendale.<BR/><BR/>i think that is for certain.<BR/><BR/>the other one... that is interesting.<BR/><BR/>are we underestimating rutgers? they have both WV and Louisville in the sked.<BR/><BR/>are we putting too much in the WV - Louisville game?<BR/><BR/>there are just too many wildcards, esp with at least 4 SEC teams in the hunt, and of course the high profile ND brings to the table.<BR/><BR/>i agree though that the style of victory / defeat that a certain team conducts everyday determines their power ranking on a certain week.<BR/><BR/>and i agree with the honorary vote for temple. kudos to them, esp under the circumstances coach al golden is in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162246980638767502006-10-30T17:23:00.000-05:002006-10-30T17:23:00.000-05:00U of M fan alert!!!I have been telling all my budd...U of M fan alert!!!<BR/><BR/>I have been telling all my buddies that Michigan has been doing just enough to win the small games against lesser opponents and really turining it on for the big games. Lloyd Carr has taken a page out of Bill Belicheck's book and is not tipping his hand for the scouts. Although Michigan is mostly a run team I know that there are a few tricks that haven't been revealed. So for now, I can see the #3 arugment.Matt W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08763143582686820221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162246966814187482006-10-30T17:22:00.000-05:002006-10-30T17:22:00.000-05:00What would it take for the WAC to *become* a BCS l...<I>What would it take for the WAC to *become* a BCS league?<BR/><BR/>So we've got Division 1A and 1AA....Now the BCS pretty much has split 1A into 1A+ and 1A-, like there are two different divisions.<BR/><BR/>My point is that, either Division 1 should include all its leagues as "BCS leagues", or else the non-BCS leagues become 1Aandahalf or something like that. </I><BR/><BR/>Exactly the reason for the 5th game and the inclusion of the other conferences. There was rumors of antitrust lawsuits, Congressional Action, etc.<BR/><BR/>Joe (Dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162246533885933092006-10-30T17:15:00.000-05:002006-10-30T17:15:00.000-05:00chrth: I'm not sold yet that Michigan is better th...chrth: I'm not sold yet that Michigan is better than OSU, but the reason some may feel that way is that every team that has played both has said that the Michigan defense is better than the OSU defense. Forget about points, because way too many factors can contribute to the points allowed in a game. These are the testaments of teams (Iowa and Penn State are the ones I have in mind) that have been on the same field as U of M and OSU saying that one defense is better. If they made the opposite argument, coupled with OSU's good-looking offense, it would be an uphill argument. I personally don't think you can really say with any *certainty* which team is better, even though arguments can be made.<BR/><BR/>And BTW, I've seen a couple of Texas games, which is OSU's big defeat, and haven't been impressed by them either.adntehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00101061288515755372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162245320398628372006-10-30T16:55:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:55:00.000-05:00Dan, are the 2 de facto semifinal games better tha...Dan, are the 2 de facto semifinal games better than the 7 playoff games you'd be seeing in an 8 team playoff? Isn't it more legit to let the teams play each other, rather than trying to figure out who's played the hardest schedule? With no upsets, you'd get to see all of these games, and they'd all count towards the national championship.<BR/><BR/>Quarterfinals:<BR/>Ohio St. v Tennessee<BR/>West Virginia v Florida<BR/>Michigan v Auburn<BR/>Louisville v Arkansas<BR/><BR/>Semifinals:<BR/>OSU v Louisville<BR/>Michigan v West Virginia<BR/><BR/>Finals: <BR/>OSU v West Virginia<BR/><BR/>Round 2:<BR/>OSUJaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10912934417019865803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162245286790600512006-10-30T16:54:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:54:00.000-05:00The Michigan "adjustment" is probably fair. After...The Michigan "adjustment" is probably fair. After all, inertia is something that should be taken out of any pollster's vocabulary. And, right now, they look only very good, which is the same as 12 other teams. However, you should put Michigan back where they were if in the next few weeks Manningham's return reignites that offense, as that would explain their relative averageness of late. After all, you can't punish a team for a drop in win quality when a player is out <I>after</I> that player comes back, can you? This is, of course, presuming that Manningham is the difference maker on that offense.<BR/><BR/>Oh, who am I kidding? That OSU game will take care of everything (good or bad), so Michigan fans shouldn't care where they are right now. Other undefeated teams should be so lucky to be in that position.adntehhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00101061288515755372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162244890171366732006-10-30T16:48:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:48:00.000-05:00Two comments:(1) Y'all missed the nuance: Dan bum...Two comments:<BR/><BR/>(1) Y'all missed the nuance: Dan bumped Michigan down as a way of giving props to his Wildcats (for what? for being better than expected). It's not actually meant to say much about Michigan. Presumably next week the maize and blue will be back where they purportedly belong.<BR/><BR/>(Hey Dan: were you an undergrad there, or were you at Medill or something like that?) <BR/><BR/>(2) The WAC and MAC and so on will never become BCS conferences--yet another argument for dissolving the BCS. (Anybody know if the mid-majors have tried a Sherman Act suit against the BCS? Because, I mean, it sounds like a winner to me.)markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367754765898020281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162244565966765412006-10-30T16:42:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:42:00.000-05:00Dan,What about Rutgers? They don't play any weaker...Dan,<BR/><BR/>What about Rutgers? They don't play any weaker of a schedule than Louisville or WVa. they still have games remaining against the two in order to boost their own scedhule. They are unbeaten as well, so why not them if they get past Wva and Louiville? It's like they are wild card and add another round of playoffs to Thursday night's winner.T-Millhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06658800030850579943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162244415288466642006-10-30T16:40:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:40:00.000-05:00Honest question time:What's the deal with some peo...Honest question time:<BR/><BR/>What's the deal with some people thinking Michigan is better than OSU? Is it the Wisconsin game? Because that's the only thing I can think of. It can't be Notre Dame, because we all know how lousy the Irish are. OSU has given up double-digits twice this season, while UM has done it six times, yet somehow UM has a better defense? When you look at teams they've both played, OSU has been more dominant. So can someone who has Michigan ranked over OSU (or thinks UM will beat OSU) explain why?<BR/>ThanksChristian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162243747387095492006-10-30T16:29:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:29:00.000-05:00Boise St. doesn't deserve the national title becau...Boise St. doesn't deserve the national title because they don't play anyone even halfway decent. And don't give me that crap that they can't help it they play in a 2nd tier conference. Take a lesson from Fresno St. Play some good teams, go undefeated and you'll get the respect you deserve. I guarantee you if Fresno St. was undefeated with their schedule they'd be top 5 right now unlike Boise St.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353671003212539401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162243545163904892006-10-30T16:25:00.001-05:002006-10-30T16:25:00.001-05:00rafael is right. josh, for your opponent's win pe...rafael is right. josh, for your opponent's win percentage to be a legit comparison, you have to remove the game between them; otherwise you're penalizing the undefeated and giving a bonus to the one-loss.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162243510266066952006-10-30T16:25:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:25:00.000-05:00As someone who was at the Michigan game from start...As someone who was at the Michigan game from start to finish (Section 42, Row 1) I can tell you firsthand that the weather conditions did, in fact, make a difference in that game.<BR/><BR/>After going home and taking a scolding hot shower to get my body temperature back to normal levels I watched the highlights of the game and it looked like it was played in Florida. It's amazing how the video footage failed to show how bad the weather was. <BR/><BR/>30-50 mph wind gusts, freezing rain, 35°. Brutal. And all Michigan did was hand the ball off and run to the left all day. It was the most boring football game I've ever attended. It was a get it over with and hit the showers as soon as possible situation.<BR/><BR/>I can tell you with certainty that had the conditions been optimal, it would have been a 50-3 type score. <BR/><BR/>But go ahead and believe what you thought you saw from your cushy arm chair at home.Russellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10166331359866514873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162243416740783292006-10-30T16:23:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:23:00.000-05:00Weakest. Justification. Ever. That's just wrong j...Weakest. Justification. Ever. That's just wrong jumping WVU over Michigan. I know at least a dozen commenters will make the point better than I could, so I'll stop at: what. the. fuck.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162243319882422512006-10-30T16:21:00.000-05:002006-10-30T16:21:00.000-05:00Yeah, but the 1-loss teams get boosts in their opp...Yeah, but the 1-loss teams get boosts in their opponents win pct. by losing to that one team. <BR/>By losing to OSU and Tennessee..USC and Cal have upped that stat. heherafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.com