tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116282046146470004..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Monday 11/06 A.M. Quickie:Colts Prove Who's No. 1 in NFLUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162928838797702062006-11-07T14:47:00.000-05:002006-11-07T14:47:00.000-05:00Curtis, if you are gonna say ESPN and the media ma...Curtis, if you are gonna say ESPN and the media make Brady their Golden Boy (and I'll listen to the argument) Then you have to be willing to except that they make Manning their Golden God. No QB is as hyped as Manning for having won absolutely nothing. I like Manning, I think he is a good QB and it is inevitable that he will lead a team to a Super Bowl, but the media definitely have at least an equal man crush on him as they do Brady. I'm a Pats fan and I've never seen any home videos of Tom Brady. How many of Manning have you seen this season alone? And it is relevant that Brady has one 3 rings to none for Manning. If they swtiched teams, their careers likely would be the reverse with Manning having the rings. But the fact is up until the 2005 playoffs, it was always Manning making the mistakes in the big game. And until the Colts win a big one in January, that will be part of the equation in judging him, fair or not.Aitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465798018639732646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162856576216392712006-11-06T18:42:00.000-05:002006-11-06T18:42:00.000-05:00>>If you had watched a second of the game (if you ...>>If you had watched a second of the game (if you had been able to), you would have seen some unfamiliar names and numbers on the blue jerseys. Are you surprised Michigan didn't pull out all the stops vs. Ball State? Did Michigan have a statement to make this week? Give me (and Michigan) a break.>><BR/><BR/>I certainly applaud Carr's classy (and non-Buckeye) moves, Josh, but welcome to the wacky world of voters who only pay attention to the final score. I raise a glass to you guys joining the club.EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162850492737932932006-11-06T17:01:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:01:00.000-05:00Ken, I literally laughed out loud at the last line...Ken, I literally laughed out loud at the last line of your post. Well played, sir! lol<BR/><BR/>And I know you didn't call me classless, bro, That's why I said Dan and others.Aitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465798018639732646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162849281637090662006-11-06T16:41:00.000-05:002006-11-06T16:41:00.000-05:00Meant to say "Biggest.Family.Embarrassment." to fo...Meant to say "Biggest.Family.Embarrassment." to follow TMQ style.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162849159824653622006-11-06T16:39:00.000-05:002006-11-06T16:39:00.000-05:00Your comment is way off the mark about Steeler fan...Your comment is way off the mark about Steeler fans. I hope we lose out and get the #1 overall pick. This season is down the drain, who cares if we win another game? It only hurts our draft pick status.Marcus Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17020660877653524405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162848686322731182006-11-06T16:31:00.000-05:002006-11-06T16:31:00.000-05:00Update: This has been one of those "If you think y...Update: This has been one of those "If you think you know ANYTHING about the NFL, you don't" kind of days: Dolphins over Bears? Lions over Falcons? Anyone -- anyone?! <BR/><BR/><BR/>Uhhh, yeah....I went 1-12 in my football pool yesterday. I fall right into this category! Geez! At least I took Houston over the Giants. They were my saving grace.<BR/><BR/>Biggest.Embarrassment.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162842464263833302006-11-06T14:47:00.000-05:002006-11-06T14:47:00.000-05:00Sixers rule? Thanks for the East Coast Bias, Dan. ...Sixers rule? Thanks for the East Coast Bias, Dan. Sure, I sound like a homer, but who thought the Jazz would be 3-0 after playing Houston, Phoenix, and Golden State? If they beat the Pistons tonight, I demand respect.<BR/><BR/>What we have learned from this weekend in football: turnovers can ruin anyone (Bears, Patriots, West Virginia).Shumshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427294708952512804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162842037738923692006-11-06T14:40:00.000-05:002006-11-06T14:40:00.000-05:00The only thing is W Virginia is not ranked three a...The only thing is W Virginia is not ranked three anymore. So there win is not as good as Ohio St's win against Texas.kingofsmokehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04246504716088938792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162840227025098902006-11-06T14:10:00.000-05:002006-11-06T14:10:00.000-05:00Did anyone see espn.com has now moved hockey furth...Did anyone see espn.com has now moved hockey further down the toolbar, not just past nascar, but past the irl?<BR/><BR/>seems espn only pimps the games it actually shows....Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162839551970441592006-11-06T13:59:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:59:00.000-05:00it does happen, and not just in Boston/New England...<I>it does happen, and not just in Boston/New England.</I><BR/><BR/>Giambi in Oakland<BR/>Arod in Texas<BR/>Mussina in Baltimore<BR/>Clemens everywhere (Tor, Bos, NY)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Standing O's:<BR/>Bledsoe's return with the Bills<BR/>Pedro's return with the Mets<BR/>Cabrera's return with the Angels<BR/>Derek Lowe <BR/>Dave Roberts<BR/>Doug Flutie<BR/><BR/>The day Nomar steps back in Fenway will dwarf them all.marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162838781175430222006-11-06T13:46:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:46:00.000-05:00sweet chocolate christ who cares about the 1/2 spo...sweet chocolate christ who cares about the 1/2 spot in the BCS? The winner on 11/18 in Columbus goes to Glendale.<BR/><BR/>Someone asked earlier about a "snow bowl" I'm pretty sure that the NC bowl rotates among the 4 BCS bowl sites just like it used to do, so there will be no chance of Florida playing USC in Green Bay.<BR/><BR/>The Pats are about 7.5 mil under the cap this year, so don't get mad at Vin for leaving, get mad at bob kraft for wanting more cash on hand to pump into the MLS team or line his pockets.<BR/><BR/>Vanderjagt is a moron. He completely sells out the rest of the special teams for getting his kick blocked which "he knew from his years of expert chokery was good". Funny how he wants none of the blame when he just clean misses a kick because he's a headcase, but he is quick to point the finger on a block.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162838681469896572006-11-06T13:44:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:44:00.000-05:00Meh. OSU has had one bad game this year.Michigan ...Meh. OSU has had one bad game this year.<BR/><BR/>Michigan has had a few..as has everyone else. Simple enough. <BR/><BR/>I think Ohio State beats Michigan by 13 (30 - 17) and plays Texas for the title.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162838397673930172006-11-06T13:39:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:39:00.000-05:00I was saying boo-urns.I was saying boo-urns.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162838247804235662006-11-06T13:37:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:37:00.000-05:00Ken, it is not a moot point when Dan and others ar...Ken, it is not a moot point when Dan and others are calling me and my fellow New Englad fans classless. If booing returning athletes was exclusive to New Englad, then I'd accept it. But it isn't. It is done to returning athletes all the time. If Vinatieri had been traded or not offered a contract by the Pats he owuld not have been booed. It was the fact that he went to the biggest rival for simply more money. Same reason why Damon got booed. Not because he left for more money, but because he went to the one team he was on the record as saying he would never play for.<BR/><BR/>Troy, maybe you're right and it shouldn't happen in any of those situations, but it does happen, and not just in Boston/New England. That was my point.<BR/><BR/>Mark, I was watching a hockey game a couple weeks back (i know its not a favorite sport amon the readers of this blog but bear with me), where Marc Savard, now playing for the Bruins, returned to Atlanta for the first time and played his former team. And their fans booed every time Savard touched the puck. But you're right, it only happens in new york or boston. get real<BR/><BR/>To all of you, I'm not saying that it is right or fair to boo an athlete for taking more money. Hell, if I offered you $4000 for your shoes, you'd walk home barefoot, so would I. My only real point is that this stuff isn't exclusive to my area and feloow fans, so don't get all high and mighty on us when next week it could be your fellow fans who are unfairly booing someone.Aitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465798018639732646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162837250056106602006-11-06T13:20:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:20:00.000-05:00Is anyone else looking forward to Dan bitching abo...Is anyone else looking forward to Dan bitching about UF not getting all the #1 votes in the AP Poll tomorrow?Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162836504321821902006-11-06T13:08:00.000-05:002006-11-06T13:08:00.000-05:00Ohio State and Michigan were both caught looking a...Ohio State and Michigan were both caught looking ahead. Neither team can be blamed for being conservative, either, but Martyball will kill you every time.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, If Louisville wins out, they should absolutely be in the Championship game. That's why title games exist: to match teams that don't normally meet (remember baseball before intra-league play?). After OSU/Michigan, I'm sure the losing team will be envious of Louisville, should they go undefeated. But they already lost to OSU/Michigan, so let it go. What's the point in ranking them 1-2 while there's another undefeated team in the poll, and they have to play each other? If Louisville doesn't go undefeated, then make OSU/M 1-2 or vice versa, but for now, Louisville has a better chance at the Championship game that Michigan. Not because Louisville is better than Michigan (we'll probably never know in this BCS system) but because Louisville has a better chance to go undefeated than Michigan. Because there's no one on Louisville's schedule like OSU. If Rutgers does undefeated, then you don't need to do this, because team quality and win quality mean something, but there's no chink in Louisville's armor as of yet. WVU is as real as any team in the top 10.<BR/><BR/>The games this week didn't prove anything, except that 18 year olds are overconfident and easily distracted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162835685362183382006-11-06T12:54:00.000-05:002006-11-06T12:54:00.000-05:00How about this for an idea: We all just agree tha...How about this for an idea: We all just agree that each of us is a homer for his/her own teams and nothing will change our minds. That way NDYanksFan and Chrth dont have to go back and forth for 20 posts about Notre Dame and OSU. <BR/><BR/>Also, how about we all agree that 95% of the things Dan says are to provoke blog readers into commenting, not because he actually believes them. That way we can save the "Dan you are an idiot" posts, and just ignore him and maybe he will stop with the instant history garbage when he realized nobody wants to respond to it anymore. Or just hold him accountable when every prediction he makes is wrong, and rip him a new ass.<BR/><BR/>Of course if we didnt remind Dan he's a moron or bicker among ourselves about our teams, no one would post on this blog and Dan would realize he's unemployed and spending his time posting on a blog nobody reads or cares about.<BR/><BR/>And we wouldn't want that now would we. So bicker away.Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162835503562321472006-11-06T12:51:00.000-05:002006-11-06T12:51:00.000-05:00Good point - While we're at it, Rutgers and Syracu...<I><BR/>Good point - While we're at it, Rutgers and Syracuse both beat up Illinois, so that puts them up there with OSU as OSU narrowly escaped the fightin Illini this weekend, right?<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Nope. There's one reason for this. I work under the forward-improvement theory.<BR/><BR/>Basically, teams get better as the season progresses. The exception is when either the team quits on the coach or when a star player (usually QB) gets injured.<BR/><BR/>Take Wake Forest for example. They barely beat Duke in September. I called them the worst 3-0 team in history after they barely squeaked by UConn.<BR/><BR/>Yet now they're beating BC. Honestly, I root for them, and I'm boggled by this. I still expect them to finish 8-4 (you can understand why; I mean, we're talking about a team that hadn't won in November since 2003), but they're obviously getting better.<BR/><BR/>Now, I know what you're thinking, and the answer is, not every team gets better at the same rate. Some teams (I'm thinking OSU, UM, USC, and ND for this season) start off pretty much at their max; they're not going to improve by much as the season goes on. These teams are characterized by returning starters (especially QB) (ND, UM, OSU) or by coaches with strong systems that allow the teams to play at their max (USC). Other teams (I'm thinking UT especially) will get better as the season progresses and new QBs step up or defenses come together, etc.<BR/><BR/>I would definitely include Illinois in that latter category. People are talking up Wisconsin: UW only beat Illinois by 6 a week earlier.<BR/><BR/>So what's my point in all of this? Well, I never like comparing September games to November games. But more importantly, I watched the OSU-Illinois game. I saw what their defense did in the second half. And I'll bet you dollars-to-donuts that it wouldn't be 33-0 if Rutgers and Illinois met again this week.<BR/><BR/>I'd also bet you dollars-to-donuts that if OSU played Texas again, it'd be a lot closer. Both Texas and Illinois have improved as the season has gone on.<BR/><BR/>As for Michigan, guys, I think Michigan is an excellent team. I believe they deserve to be #2 easily. But I've watched almost as many UM games as I've watched OSU games, and I honestly don't think UM is as good as OSU. Do I think UM is better than Louisville? Hell yeah. Do I think OSU will win easy? Of course not. But right now I'd have to pick OSU to win. And don't think I'm discounting UM because of the Ball State game. I'm not. Heck, I haven't even looked at the stats/recap yet. Am I surprised by the result? Well, yeah. But who wouldn't be?<BR/><BR/>One other thing that plays in favor of UM and OSU (to the detriment of ND, sorry) is that games where the 'better' team lets the other team get close is evaluated differently than games in which the 'better' team has to come back to win. OSU or UM go up by 17 points, they're going to get lax. It's in the nature of superior teams, and I don't penalize them for it. On the other hand, if the 'better' team has to scramble back from 10 down in the 4th quarter to win, then that hurts them. Obviously, in a matchup of even-strength teams that's not going to--it'll reflect positively. But when a 9-2 team has to come back from 10 down against a 3-7 team, that doesn't reflect kindly on the 9-2 team.<BR/><BR/>I hope everyone understands where I'm coming from after all that.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162833913744928102006-11-06T12:25:00.000-05:002006-11-06T12:25:00.000-05:00Agreed about the classlessness of NE booing Vinati...Agreed about the classlessness of NE booing Vinatieri. (It's not what fans do, it's what NY and NE fans do).<BR/><BR/>Agreed that Michigan is clearly NOT the #2.<BR/><BR/>Agreed that the Steelers season is over.<BR/><BR/>Agreed that the Colts' season is meaningless without a Super Bowl.<BR/><BR/>Disagree that the Dolphins were the surprise victor yesterday. Nick Saban motivates them one week, lets them reel the next. I had a feeling this might be one of those motivated weeks.<BR/><BR/>Not sure if it's time to reconsider ND's overall ranking though...MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05833230465240793728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162832838337384392006-11-06T12:07:00.000-05:002006-11-06T12:07:00.000-05:00chrth -Did you just act like OSU beat better teams...chrth -<BR/><BR/>Did you just act like OSU beat better teams than Michigan beat, just because those teams were ranked better earlier in the season (before they met a Top 5 team and lost)?<BR/><BR/>You do realize that Michigan beat a #2 team, plus Iowa, plus Penn State, this year, right?<BR/><BR/>Also - Wisconsin is in the Top 25 <B>now</B>.<BR/><BR/>Wow, I didn't even realize it until just now, but Michigan has a great claim to #1, even before Nov. 18. Thanks for making that ridiculous argument!john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162832407307546112006-11-06T12:00:00.000-05:002006-11-06T12:00:00.000-05:00So ND can't have close games against big ten oppon...<I><BR/>So ND can't have close games against big ten opponents but OSU can and its ok? What's that about chrth? And Iowa is not a good football team by any stretch of the imagination. ND embarrassed Penn State on national TV and you would say the same thing about Penn State...OSU is sick and ND is not at their level right now but be consistent in your critiques. <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>I wasn't comparing ND to OSU. I was comparing OSU to Michigan, and secondarily comparing ND to Texas.<BR/><BR/>But since you brought it up, OSU completely manhandled MSU, whereas ND needed them to shit the bed to win.<BR/><BR/>Feel better now?Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162832083702745182006-11-06T11:54:00.000-05:002006-11-06T11:54:00.000-05:00Wake has three tough games left. Rutgers has two....Wake has three tough games left. Rutgers has two.<BR/><BR/>Both are great stories. Granted Rutgers did make a bowl last year, but it's still Rutgers, not really a bastion of athletic prowess.<BR/><BR/>Wake at least wins in golf, baseball and basketball occasionally (and Field Hockey from what I hear)<BR/><BR/>I think the Deacs play Florida State, Maryland and Virginia Tech...not really a cupcake sked.<BR/><BR/>Rutgers plays Lousiville, WVU, Syracuse and Cincy. Two easy two really tough. (and not in that order)<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I think Rutgers running the table would be a much bigger story than Wake making a BCS bowl. But if not for the Knights, Wake would take the cake (and that's not fake...)Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12578294344206366226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162831321339052682006-11-06T11:42:00.000-05:002006-11-06T11:42:00.000-05:00Are you really gonna sit there and say that if Jet...<I>Are you really gonna sit there and say that if Jeter had left the Yankees for a bigger contract with the Red Sox, that he wouldn't get booed upon his return to Yankees Stadium.</I><BR/><BR/>What I meant was: that would be the same situation as the current Vinatieri thing and I think <I>most</I> people would agree booing Jeter in that situation would be pretty bad. At least one NY fan on here says they'd never have booed him, but it doesn't matter--the point is there's no way they should, just like there's no way Vinatieri should get booed. I mean, <I>come on.</I><BR/><BR/>And undefeated Rutgers isn't at least as surprising as 8-1 Wake?TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162830460420886682006-11-06T11:27:00.000-05:002006-11-06T11:27:00.000-05:00At least we know that the Skins-Cowboys game will ...At least we know that the Skins-Cowboys game will be on NFL Replay, so those of us depending on the NBC coverage to show us the ending can see the insanity.Trayton Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11000773101670303756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162829742029318622006-11-06T11:15:00.000-05:002006-11-06T11:15:00.000-05:00MArio Williams hasn't been bad this year, but he's...MArio Williams hasn't been bad this year, but he's not even the best DE rookie this year, let alone the best overall defensive rookie. Demeco Ryans has played better, and Elvis Dumerville who didn't even play in the 1st 4 games, has 6 sacks in the last 4. He's my darkhorse sleeper for defensive ROY, and he's on a winning team so he'll be on national tv every week.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.com