tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116283844226199865..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: College Poll ManiaUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162944502637152122006-11-07T19:08:00.000-05:002006-11-07T19:08:00.000-05:00Why not Colt McCoy for the Heisman? He's got a be...Why not Colt McCoy for the Heisman? He's got a better QB rating than Troy Smith or Brady Quinn, he's brought his team from way behind, and don't forget he had to face the daunting Ohio State defense in his first game action.<BR/><BR/>Now if we could only convince his own coach...JunkCulthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01083650791188027759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162914442285316262006-11-07T10:47:00.000-05:002006-11-07T10:47:00.000-05:00The CBB poll, in this case, is a proxy for the "Ex...The CBB poll, in this case, is a proxy for the "Experts'" opinion of who is most likely to win the national title. That's as fertile an area for debate as anything.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't explain my Michigan dismissal, but there you have it.Dan Shanoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126386161198401693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162909796966857342006-11-07T09:29:00.000-05:002006-11-07T09:29:00.000-05:00I don't know if you can actually use the term "dom...I don't know if you can actually use the term "dominant" to describe a conference. The SEC is not actively dominating anyone or anything, except their own NC chances by playing each other tough and not folding up for the alpha team (Here's looking at you, Big XII....).<BR/><BR/>Bowl season is the only time teams get to prove that the elite of their conference is better than that of other conferences. So maybe we'll see if anybody dominates then. Eh?<BR/><BR/>And king solomon - <BR/>I know you're supposed to be wise and everything, but -- is Oregon State U as good as any SEC team?<BR/>Why would the same accomplishment grant Cal that claim?john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162909307285733602006-11-07T09:21:00.000-05:002006-11-07T09:21:00.000-05:00I don't understand the Tenn-Cal argument. If marg...I don't understand the Tenn-Cal argument. If margin of victory really mattered, then the Colts would be 5 time Super Bowl Champions, right? Why do we change our rules for college football? Why would we weight the first game of the season so much, especially on the road?<BR/><BR/>If Cal beats USC, they're as good as any SEC team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162908645586293592006-11-07T09:10:00.000-05:002006-11-07T09:10:00.000-05:00Gimme a break on the SEC. Not a good offense in th...<I>Gimme a break on the SEC. Not a good offense in the bunch.<BR/>Doesn't matter who comes out of the SEC, Ohio State would pound them. <BR/>Last year, Texas or USC would have pounded the SEC champ..so it goes. <BR/>Having rabid fans and 9-6 football scores does not make the SEC a great conference</I><BR/><BR/>So...<BR/><BR/>The 35 points Tennessee put on Cal this year<BR/><BR/>The 40+ LSU put on Arizona<BR/><BR/>The 33 Auburn put on Wazzou<BR/><BR/>The 34 Florida put on FSU last year<BR/><BR/>The 40 LSU put on Miami last year<BR/><BR/>The 31 Florida put on Iowa last year<BR/><BR/>Show that the SEC cannot score? The SEC can put up numbers, don't you worry. Would Texas and USC have pounded the SEC champ? Maybe, and there are some bad offenses (UGA) but the SEC is the dominant conference in the country with the Big 10 a close second.<BR/><BR/>Joe (Dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162908253314758952006-11-07T09:04:00.000-05:002006-11-07T09:04:00.000-05:00Having rabid fans and 9-6 football scores does not...<I>Having rabid fans and 9-6 football scores does not make the SEC a great conference. </I><BR/><BR/>Bingo! They might be the best this year by a small margin but stop pretending they are the be all end all to college football. A whole lot of mediocre, one-demensional offenses make all those defenses look a lot better.kway34https://www.blogger.com/profile/14882068040215255090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162907125056162592006-11-07T08:45:00.000-05:002006-11-07T08:45:00.000-05:00Talking about conferences that should secede from ...Talking about conferences that should secede from the BCS...<BR/><BR/>I keep waiting for a small band of schools to try pulling out from the NCAA due to the abuse and corruption that the NCAA has fallen under, form their own conference, play their own games, pay their players a modest salary that covers college living expenses, and get their own TV deal with a cable network.FreKy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322127577984239799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162906106784159032006-11-07T08:28:00.000-05:002006-11-07T08:28:00.000-05:00Gimme a break on the SEC. Not a good offense in t...Gimme a break on the SEC. Not a good offense in the bunch.<BR/>Doesn't matter who comes out of the SEC, Ohio State would pound them. <BR/>Last year, Texas or USC would have pounded the SEC champ..so it goes. <BR/>Having rabid fans and 9-6 football scores does not make the SEC a great conference.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162867000812079822006-11-06T21:36:00.000-05:002006-11-06T21:36:00.000-05:00Okay,It got me thinking,Is this more of a weaker c...Okay,It got me thinking,Is this more of a weaker classes of heisman choices?<BR/><BR/>If Troy Smith is the leader, but why not consider Colt Brennan. Who you might say? Hello? Bueller? Bueller?<BR/><BR/>Look at stats,he is the real deal.<BR/><BR/>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/profile?playerId=145275<BR/><BR/>Sure,he does play for Hawaii,and he does play in the WAC.But,why not him?<BR/>IMO, we know Hawaii likes to play a pass heavy spread offense making most of his stats. Most haven't heard of him on the east coast because of the time zone difference too.<BR/><BR/>Doesn't the award go to the best player? why not,with a weak heisman candidacy.<BR/><BR/>think about it,though.<BR/>*edit double post*Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01223476570957646586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162866923613731732006-11-06T21:35:00.000-05:002006-11-06T21:35:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Legacy Userhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01223476570957646586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162857303898825862006-11-06T18:55:00.000-05:002006-11-06T18:55:00.000-05:00By the way - note this:UM did not "barely eke out ...By the way - note this:<BR/><BR/>UM did not "barely eke out a win against Ball State" this weekend. Ball State had no chance of beating Michigan, even after the second team continued to give up long plays.<BR/><BR/>First of all, that terrifying "Ball State driving, down by 8" situation required BS to score two touchdowns against the first string D (the TD and the 2-point conversion), when they couldn't punch it in once in 7 consecutive plays from within the 10. Second of all, Ball State would have needed a stop and a score in overtime, which weren't gonna happen.<BR/><BR/>I can't believe the abuse you're throwing at a team that decided to rest its first string in the middle of 12 grueling consecutive weeks of football against a non-threatening team.<BR/><BR/>While I'm at it, I can't believe the SportsCenter guys - "What happened to Michigan's vaunted defense?"? Check the numbers on the jerseys of those DBs getting beat; the vaunted defense went to the sidelines for 2 quarters, is what happened.john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162855783022378022006-11-06T18:29:00.000-05:002006-11-06T18:29:00.000-05:00>>That the SEC would be better off seceding from t...>>That the SEC would be better off seceding from the BCS cabal and simply saying it will take on the winner of the BCS title game after the season is over, if the BCS champ has the guts to do it.>><BR/><BR/>Careful, Dan, you'll be advocating states' rights in no time. Don't worry, I'm proud of ya!<BR/><BR/>Yank-E (non-pinstriped version)EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162855184885854062006-11-06T18:19:00.000-05:002006-11-06T18:19:00.000-05:00That Louisville took over the title of "best win o...<I>That Louisville took over the title of "best win of the season," but some voters still don't care. (Best win? Yes: They beat the No. 3 team in the country. They dethrone Ohio St., which -- as we now know -- beat the No. 4 team. I don't care what Texas' ranking was back then; the most recent ranking should take precedence to evaluate how good a win at the time actually was.</I><BR/>So if we use the most recent ranking, Ohio State beat #4 Texas on the road by 17 and Louisville beat #10 West Virginia at home by 10. Hmmm...maybe if we use rankings at the time of the game? Ohio State won at #2 Texas by 17, Louisville won at home vs. #3 West Virginia by 10. How is Louisville's win more impressive?kway34https://www.blogger.com/profile/14882068040215255090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162854245241473602006-11-06T18:04:00.000-05:002006-11-06T18:04:00.000-05:00Since when do early season victories no longer cou...<I><BR/>Since when do early season victories no longer count. <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>It's not that they don't count; it's just that emphasis should not be placed on margin of victory. If the margin of victory is what you're pushing, then the earlier the game, the less credence it deserves.<BR/><BR/>If Cal and Tenn finish with the same record (or OSU/Texas), then by all means the head-to-head should be the deciding factor. But trying to make up a loss by citing margin of victory doesn't really work. Cal with 1 loss is more worthy than Tenn with 2 losses, regardless of how badly Tenn beat Cal in Week 1.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162853895507490552006-11-06T17:58:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:58:00.000-05:00Cal lost to Tennessee who lost (at home) to FLA. ...Cal lost to Tennessee who lost (at home) to FLA. So how would Cal be a better fit for the BCS Championship game than a one-loss Fla team? <BR/><BR/>- There's bias everywhere (obviously not just in the South)slaskarishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397113886860334235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162853698164354462006-11-06T17:54:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:54:00.000-05:00"It's nice to see that the only thing Tennessee is..."It's nice to see that the only thing Tennessee is still hanging it's hat on is the fact that they beat Cal in week one."<BR/><BR/>- That wouldn't be anything like OSU bragging about their Texas win or Michigan bragging about a Notre Dame win. Even though that Texas team certainly doesn't represent how they are now. <BR/><BR/>- Since when do early season victories no longer count.slaskarishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01397113886860334235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162852672273255422006-11-06T17:37:00.001-05:002006-11-06T17:37:00.001-05:00Um, guys? This is College B-Ball, not Football. ...Um, guys? This is College B-Ball, not Football. Who cares if they don't meet in the regular season?Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162851751062964722006-11-06T17:22:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:22:00.000-05:00Hasheem Thabeet the recently eligible center for U...<I>Hasheem Thabeet the recently eligible center for Uconn from Tanzania will beast Joakim Noah.</I><BR/><BR/>I hate to be giving things away--and I could be way wrong--but I don't think Joakim Noah is our center. Also, I'm certain he's not the best player on the team. Although I don't think he's overrated--I just think Al Horford is the most criminally underrated player ever. He's my pre-season favorite for player of the year.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162851128423646622006-11-06T17:12:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:12:00.000-05:00Rutgers WILL beat Louisville in the biggest colleg...Rutgers WILL beat Louisville in the biggest college football game in New Jersey since Rutgers and Princeton played the first game back in the 19th century.<BR/><BR/>Then you all can go on arguing about which one loss team (SEC or Pac-10) deserves the #2 spot. Personally, I think it should go to the winner of Cal/USC if the winner finishes with only the one loss.<BR/><BR/>Of course, if Rutgers runs the table...Ingrid and Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04839516417267884278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162851086179091162006-11-06T17:11:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:11:00.000-05:00UNC and Florida had an agreement in principle to p...UNC and Florida had an agreement in principle to play this year, however, they could not agree on a neutral venue (Florida wanted Tampa, UNC wanted Charlotte) so they game never came to be. Shame, it would be one heck of a game.<BR/><BR/>Joe (dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162850961270012732006-11-06T17:09:00.000-05:002006-11-06T17:09:00.000-05:00Uconn could dethrone Florida in the tourney, Hashe...Uconn could dethrone Florida in the tourney, Hasheem Thabeet the recently eligible center for Uconn from Tanzania will beast Joakim Noah.Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162848692473488742006-11-06T16:31:00.000-05:002006-11-06T16:31:00.000-05:00All I know is ...Florida won me a couple hundred b...All I know is ...<BR/><BR/>Florida won me a couple hundred bucks last year. If they can do it again, I'll root for them.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162848511266274942006-11-06T16:28:00.000-05:002006-11-06T16:28:00.000-05:00Seriously, Florida got hot for 6 games last year. ...<I> Seriously, Florida got hot for 6 games last year. That's all it was, a 6 game run...and dan, be careful because another team that made a late season run (see pittsburgh steelers) to win a championship, haven't fared so well this year.</I><BR/><BR/>Lets just completely ignore the fact that they started 17-0, and the fact that their biggest loss last year was by 5.<BR/><BR/>The argument can be said that anyone who wins the whole thing only won because they got hot at the right time. Florida is a very good team, and while they might not repeat this year, they do have teh talent to do it.<BR/><BR/>Joe (Dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162846988417654162006-11-06T16:03:00.000-05:002006-11-06T16:03:00.000-05:00I'd like to point out that while reading all the c...I'd like to point out that while reading all the comments in the dept. of the "best win of the year" i was praying that my submission didn't come up...and it didn't.<BR/><BR/><B> Michigan St. over Northwestern </B><BR/><BR/>i mean it might not have been the best team... but 38 point comebacks don't happen everyday<BR/><BR/>or, you know, more than once, EVERGuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1162846550180770512006-11-06T15:55:00.000-05:002006-11-06T15:55:00.000-05:00Hey, I don't follow college football much (I'm a S...Hey, I don't follow college football much (I'm a Syracuse fan, enough said).<BR/><BR/>But if Cal beats USC, aren't they at least as good as any SEC team (if they win the rest, then they only lost 1 game to an SEC team, like everyone else in the overhyped SEC)? <BR/><BR/>Looking at the Texas schedule, it isn't very strong, and btw, that's why the computers rank Mich, not OSU, at #1.<BR/><BR/>Anyone see the ads for the Big 10 channel? Does this mean they won't appear on network TV/ESPN?<BR/><BR/>College basketball is VERY unpredictable. I think Florida at #1 is a stretch as long as Billy Donovan is standing on the sidelines. They only seem to do well with low expectations, so I doubt that we'll see back to back banners for FLA BBALL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com