tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116326445736927692..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: CFB Saturday Live-Comment Tailgate!(Updated with post-Florida win BCS talk)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163346564526803482006-11-12T10:49:00.000-05:002006-11-12T10:49:00.000-05:00Maybe Chrth was right all along, Wake Forest in th...<I><BR/>Maybe Chrth was right all along, Wake Forest in the championship game!<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Let's face it: Wake Forest-Rutgers would be the best championship game <I>ever</I>. Even an OSU fan like me would rather see those two teams in and/or win than any of the usual suspects.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163344065671528812006-11-12T10:07:00.000-05:002006-11-12T10:07:00.000-05:00Taking it a step further though:BYU lost to Boston...Taking it a step further though:<BR/><BR/>BYU lost to Boston College who lost to Wake Forest.<BR/><BR/>Maybe Chrth was right all along, Wake Forest in the championship game!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353671003212539401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163343868656278422006-11-12T10:04:00.000-05:002006-11-12T10:04:00.000-05:00This will make Biff happy:BYU beat TCUTCU beat Tex...This will make Biff happy:<BR/><BR/>BYU beat TCU<BR/>TCU beat Texas Tech<BR/>Texas Tech beat Texas A & M<BR/>Texas A & M beat Missouri<BR/>Missouri beat Mississippi<BR/>Mississippi beat Vanderbilt<BR/>Vanderbilt beat Georgia<BR/>Georgia beat Auburn<BR/>Auburn beat Florida<BR/><BR/>Therefore BYU is better than Florida! Put them in the championship game!Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353671003212539401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163343331540105312006-11-12T09:55:00.000-05:002006-11-12T09:55:00.000-05:00As I see it the title contenders are down to:Ohio ...As I see it the title contenders are down to:<BR/><BR/>Ohio St-Michigan winner vs<BR/><BR/>Ohio St-Michigan loser, USC, Rutgers, Florida or Arkansas<BR/><BR/>Since Florida and Arkansas will most likely play in the SEC championship game we're really down to 4 teams for 1 spot.<BR/><BR/>Notre Dame is out, no way they deserve it over Michigan even if Michigan loses by 40 to Ohio St.<BR/><BR/>At least Rutgers' path got a little easier this week<BR/><BR/>Top 25<BR/>1-Ohio St<BR/>2-Michigan<BR/>3-USC<BR/>4-Arkansas<BR/>5-Rutgers<BR/>6-Florida<BR/>7-Notre Dame<BR/>8-Louisville<BR/>9-West Virginia<BR/>10-Texas<BR/>11-LSU<BR/>12-Wisconsin<BR/>13-Wake Forest<BR/>14-Oklahoma<BR/>15-California<BR/>16-Auburn<BR/>17-Georgia Tech<BR/>18-Boise St<BR/>19-BYU<BR/>20-Virginia Tech<BR/>21-Tennessee<BR/>22-Nebraska<BR/>23-Boston College<BR/>24-Hawaii<BR/>25-Marylandnep1293https://www.blogger.com/profile/12375055890377383689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163342340166846932006-11-12T09:39:00.000-05:002006-11-12T09:39:00.000-05:00Big Ten is strong, but not Wisconsin's schedule.ht...Big Ten is strong, but not Wisconsin's schedule.<BR/><BR/>http://www.cfrc.com/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163341896911740062006-11-12T09:31:00.000-05:002006-11-12T09:31:00.000-05:00Whoa, is the Big 10 that bad? No, it's so good tha...<I><BR/>Whoa, is the Big 10 that bad? </I><BR/><BR/>No, it's so good that they keep beating each other (outside the top 3 of course). That's the SEC's argument, right?<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, the Big "10" will be putting 6-8 teams in bowls. It is an off-year for the league though (Iowa and MSU being most representative of that fact).Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163339663339426602006-11-12T08:54:00.000-05:002006-11-12T08:54:00.000-05:00Oh, and Wisconsin has yet to beat a ranked teamWho...<I>Oh, and Wisconsin has yet to beat a ranked team</I><BR/><BR/>Whoa, is the Big 10 <I>that</I> bad?TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163329948872254502006-11-12T06:12:00.000-05:002006-11-12T06:12:00.000-05:00the Husker - Razorback comparison is based on what...the Husker - Razorback comparison is based on what Dan posted with regards to florida's chances in the glendale bowl.<BR/><BR/>this pretty much seals the pac-10 and the acc as a one bcs team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163329728143594582006-11-12T06:08:00.000-05:002006-11-12T06:08:00.000-05:00USC - Cal: BCS elimination game (for the Rose Bowl...USC - Cal: BCS elimination game (for the Rose Bowl, perhaps) loser goes to the Holiday Bowl<BR/><BR/>then again, if SoCal loses to Cal but beats ND, they might be back in the BCS (not Glendale, but as an at-large)<BR/><BR/>Nebraska has sealed the Big 12 North (what could have been for Missouri).\<BR/><BR/>Is Nebraska better than Arkansas?<BR/><BR/>And yes, an unbeaten Boise State will get a BCS at-large at the Fiesta Bowl.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163317718392836382006-11-12T02:48:00.000-05:002006-11-12T02:48:00.000-05:00I have a crazy question that has nothing do with c...I have a crazy question that has nothing do with college football, but I wanted to pose this question to everybody. Why is Sammy Sosa equated to steroids? His name has never been implicated in any reports and he has never failed a test; just like Bonds. I'm not a Cubs/Sosa fan, but I just wanted to know why people in this country jump on people without any evidence whatsoever.d_helms32https://www.blogger.com/profile/03635955103570882831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163314923571765632006-11-12T02:02:00.000-05:002006-11-12T02:02:00.000-05:00I'm trying to figure out the BCS scenarios, but it...I'm trying to figure out the BCS scenarios, but it all stems from who plays the OSU-UM winner (the same question we've been asking for the last 5 weeks).<BR/><BR/>I'm assuming the ND holds on to a BCS berth, regardless of the USC-ND result. I assume Arkansas can beat MSU and/or LSU for the SEC Championship Game. I also assume Boise St. will win out and rise far enough through attrition to #12 or better and/ or be better than ACC champ. If Rutgers doesn't get #2, I generalize for whoever wins the BigEast.<BR/><BR/>So if Rutgers wins out and gets #2 I see it playing out like this:<BR/>Glendale: OSU/UM-W vs Rutgers<BR/>Rose: USC/Cal-W vs OSU/UM-L<BR/>Sugar: Ark/UF-W vs ND<BR/>Orange: ACC vs SEC-AtLarge<BR/>Fiesta: Texas vs BSU<BR/><BR/>An SEC Champ as #2 looks like this:<BR/>Glendale: OSU/UM-W vs Ark/UF-W<BR/>Rose: USC/Cal-W vs OSU/UM-L<BR/>Sugar: SEC-AtLarge vs ND<BR/>Orange: ACC vs Big East<BR/>Fiesta: Texas vs BSU<BR/>...but will the Sugar Bowl prefer an SEC-BigEast showdown again over ND?<BR/><BR/>Say USC wins out and jumps everyone else based on SoS...<BR/>Glendale: OSU/UM-W vs USC<BR/>Rose: OSU vs ND or UM vs BigEast?<BR/>Sugar: Ark/UF-W vs ND/BigEast<BR/>Orange: ACC vs SEC-AtLarge<BR/>Fiesta: Texas vs BSU<BR/><BR/>If the Irish Eyes are shining...<BR/>Glendale: OSU/UM-W vs ND<BR/>Rose: USC/Cal-W vs OSU/UM-L<BR/>Sugar: Ark/UF-W vs BigEast<BR/>Orange: ACC vs SEC-AtLarge<BR/>Fiesta: Texas vs BSU<BR/><BR/>Judgement Day becomes a Classic like T2...<BR/>Glendale: OSU vs UM<BR/>Rose: Cal vs ND or USC vs SEC-AtLarge?<BR/>Sugar: Ark/UF-W vs ND/BigEast<BR/>Orange: ACC vs SEC-AtLarge/BigEast<BR/>Fiesta: Texas vs BSU<BR/><BR/>If you're still reading, thanks. Summary: Fiesta Bowl gets UT vs BSU if BSU wins out; the ACC plays the Ark-UF loser or the Big East winner unless LSU overtakes Arkansas (perhaps with a win over Ark?).<BR/><BR/>My main question is will the Rose Bowl try to avoid a USC/ND or UM/ND rematch if it plays out that way or will it pick up an undefeated Rutgers, or even a 2-loss SEC team? Will the Sugar Bowl pass up Notre Dame to have another SEC/BigEast match (after WVa-U[sic]GA last year)?<BR/><BR/>Lots of questions, no answers. That's why we play the game, right?Trayton Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11000773101670303756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163310058059052772006-11-12T00:40:00.001-05:002006-11-12T00:40:00.001-05:00Never mind, Oregon just fumbled the ball. Pete Ca...Never mind, Oregon just fumbled the ball. Pete Carroll IS a genius.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163310012638877702006-11-12T00:40:00.000-05:002006-11-12T00:40:00.000-05:00Note to USC: Trick plays when you're driving for a...Note to USC: Trick plays when you're driving for a big score are not always the best of ideas.<BR/><BR/>Wow, if the Ducks come back after this ...Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163308926090870322006-11-12T00:22:00.000-05:002006-11-12T00:22:00.000-05:00I love how ABC is calling next Saturday "JUDGEMENT...I love how ABC is calling next Saturday "JUDGEMENT DAY".<BR/><BR/>Considering Rutgers and Wake Forest are a combined 18-1, maybe apocalyptic pronouncements aren't out of the question.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163308535610972482006-11-12T00:15:00.000-05:002006-11-12T00:15:00.000-05:00hmm...could this be separation saturday 2?\auburn ...hmm...<BR/><BR/>could this be separation saturday 2?\<BR/><BR/>auburn is now eliminated.<BR/>texas is eliminated from championship contention<BR/>cal (i'll hold on them until the USC game)<BR/><BR/>and yes how bout em deacons and scarlet knights?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163308388942408282006-11-12T00:13:00.000-05:002006-11-12T00:13:00.000-05:00I might need to take my inclusion of Wisconsin bac...I might need to take my inclusion of Wisconsin back.<BR/><BR/>I just compared the two team's schedules, and they've shared 7 opponents so far, and OSU has beaten each shared opponent by a greater margin (even Illinois). So without even considering the fact that OSU played Texas, I don't know how you could put a 1-loss Wisconsin team over a 1-loss OSU team.<BR/><BR/>And UW is playing Buffalo next week, which will hurt their PC rankings. UW's mountain is unscalable, I'm afraid.<BR/><BR/>It is a shame that OSU doesn't play UW this season so we don't find out for sure.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163308223396422072006-11-12T00:10:00.000-05:002006-11-12T00:10:00.000-05:00Oh shit. Wisconsin. And hell, Wake Forest at thi...Oh shit. Wisconsin. And hell, Wake Forest at this point. <BR/><BR/>Also, I really really wish Navy wasn't bowl-eligible, so we'd have a chance at seeing a USF vs. Miami/FSU Meineke Bowl. Because, seriously, at this point, I really think USF is the second best Florida team.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163307902513803602006-11-12T00:05:00.000-05:002006-11-12T00:05:00.000-05:00I brought up Wisconsin because I think they need t...I brought up Wisconsin because I think they need to be in the discussion. Consider the following scenario:<BR/><BR/>UM beats OSU<BR/>USC loses to Cal, beats Notre Dame<BR/>Arkansas loses to LSU, beats Florida<BR/>Rutgers loses to WVU<BR/>Wisconsin wins out<BR/><BR/>Here are the resulting contenders for the National Championship:<BR/>UM 12-0<BR/>OSU 11-1<BR/>Wisconsin 11-1<BR/><BR/>That's it. Every other 1-loss team is ACC or Big East. Granted, Wake Forest or Maryland might be able to slip ahead of Wisconsin, but I doubt it.<BR/><BR/>While I don't honestly think Wisconsin can get over the loser of OSU-UM, because of this scenario you can't ignore them.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163307598806398702006-11-11T23:59:00.000-05:002006-11-11T23:59:00.000-05:00chrth -we're both spiky in opposite directions som...chrth -<BR/><BR/>we're both spiky in opposite directions sometimes, but you're one of the most persistent voices of reason here. did you just mention wisconsin because i recently brought up their credentials? because the world hasn't allowed anybody to think about the badgers in a national championship context all year.<BR/><BR/>granted, no OSU on the schedule didn't do UW any favors, but as far as I'm concerned, they had approximately the same resume as Texas pre-KSU, I'd say perhaps even better than USC's, and similar comparisons with teams in similar situations.john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163307462493462202006-11-11T23:57:00.000-05:002006-11-11T23:57:00.000-05:00Knee-jerk top 10:OSUMichiganRutgersArkasasUSCFlori...Knee-jerk top 10:<BR/>OSU<BR/>Michigan<BR/>Rutgers<BR/>Arkasas<BR/>USC<BR/>Florida <BR/>Notre Dame<BR/>Ummm...? I... OK, top 7. This will take some pretty serious sorting out.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163307171240544762006-11-11T23:52:00.000-05:002006-11-11T23:52:00.000-05:00Report: Second loudest I've heard the Swamp (I've ...Report: Second loudest I've heard the Swamp (I've been going since '02), behind the FSU game in '03.<BR/><BR/><I>Jesus</I>. Earlier today everyone was talking about UF needing to win with style points. Suddenly the fact that they won <I>at all</I> equals style points. Now I'm a pretty big California fan.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163306994176307642006-11-11T23:49:00.001-05:002006-11-11T23:49:00.001-05:00RU #5RU #5rukrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005928545753221172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163306973482037562006-11-11T23:49:00.000-05:002006-11-11T23:49:00.000-05:00Close spot, I say first downClose spot, I say first downrukrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005928545753221172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163306905653676822006-11-11T23:48:00.000-05:002006-11-11T23:48:00.000-05:00If we ignore Boise State and the 1-loss ACC and Bi...If we ignore Boise State and the 1-loss ACC and Big East teams (I don't think any of those teams could surpass the loser of OSU-Michigan), these are the teams in contention for Championship game:<BR/><I>Undefeated</I><BR/>OSU/Michigan Winner<BR/>Rutgers<BR/><I>One loss</I><BR/>OSU/Michigan Loser<BR/>Wisconsin (maybe)<BR/>Notre Dame/USC Winner<BR/>Florida/Arkansas Winner<BR/><BR/>We're down to 6 teams; maybe even 5 since it might be tough for Wisconsin to leap the loser of OSU/UM (especially if it's Michigan).<BR/><BR/>Anyone else starting to get the feeling there won't be a BCS controversy this year?<BR/><BR/>And the games wouldn't have been half as exciting if there was a playoff. So nyeh nyeh!Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1163306877845718722006-11-11T23:47:00.001-05:002006-11-11T23:47:00.001-05:00Your recollection on 2003 is correct. Not long af...Your recollection on 2003 is correct. <BR/><BR/>Not long after he found out that his team had been snubbed for the designated national championship game yesterday, Southern California Coach Pete Carroll insisted that the Trojans would be playing for the national championship anyway. <BR/><BR/>U.S.C. ascended to the top of both national polls earlier in the day after its victory Saturday over Oregon State and Oklahoma's loss to Kansas State, but Oklahoma was selected to play Louisiana State for the national championship in the Sugar Bowl on Jan. 4. U.S.C. is No. 3 in the Bowl Championship Series standing. <BR/><BR/>The Trojans (11-1) became the first team ranked No. 1 in the polls to be bypassed for the national title game in the six-year history of the B.C.S., but Carroll, with only a touch of defiance in his voice, had already become a spin doctor. <BR/><BR/>''We have not been tied to, or made legitimate by, the B.C.S. all year,'' Carroll said in a conference call with reporters last night. <BR/><BR/>A share of the national championship, he said, is still U.S.C.'s to lose. The Trojans will play Michigan (10-2), the Big Ten champion, in the Rose Bowl on Jan. 1, and Carroll suggested that his team should still be No. 1 if it were to beat the Wolverines. <BR/><BR/>''The fact that there's a controversy going on with it makes it all that much more interesting,'' Carroll said. <BR/><BR/>The coaches who vote in the USA Today/ESPN poll have said that the winner of the designated national championship game will be the national champion, even though L.S.U. (12-1) and Oklahoma (12-1) trail U.S.C. in the their poll, too. <BR/><BR/>The news media members who participate in the Associated Press poll are under no such obligation. So a split national championship -- something that has not happened since 1997, the year before the B.C.S. was formed -- is a possibility. <BR/><BR/>''I really don't think there's any chance that this game is going to get lost,'' Michigan Coach Lloyd Carr said. Carr called the Rose Bowl a championship game between two championship teams. <BR/><BR/>Mitch Dorger, the chief executive of the Tournament of Roses, was somewhat more restrained. He was simply delighted that a Big Ten team would play a Pacific-10 team in the traditional Rose Bowl matchup. Because of its affiliation with the B.C.S., the Rose Bowl has not had a Big Ten-versus-Pac-10 matchup since the 2000 season. <BR/><BR/>But Dorger also said, ''We are well aware that the game will have implications beyond the game itself.'' <BR/><BR/>A team from the Pac-10 has not played in the designated national championship game since the B.C.S. was formed. Southern California was No. 2 in the B.C.S. standing before Saturday, but several results helped to drop the Trojans below L.S.U. <BR/><BR/>''I don't know how to fix this system other than play it off,'' Carroll said. <BR/><BR/>Two teams that U.S.C. played, Hawaii (8-5) and Notre Dame (5-7), lost Saturday. Although the Trojans beat Oregon State (7-5), their strength-of-schedule rating stayed the same, at No. 37 among Division I-A teams. <BR/><BR/>But after L.S.U. beat Georgia (10-3) in the Southeastern Conference championship game, its strength-of-schedule rating jumped to No. 29 from No. 54. That gain helped L.S.U. edge U.S.C. by 16-hundredths of a point over all. <BR/><BR/>''I think the fact that they played Georgia allowed them to take a big jump,'' Mike Tranghese, the Big East Conference commissioner and the B.C.S. coordinator, said of L.S.U. <BR/><BR/>Tom Hansen, the Pac-10 commissioner, said in a statement that it was most unfortunate that the computer elements of the B.C.S. ranking, including the strength-of-schedule rating, overcame U.S.C.'s No. 1 poll ranking. A similar result involving the Pac-10 occurred in the 2001 season, when Oregon finished second in both polls but was not selected for the national championship game, Hansen said. <BR/><BR/>Although the Trojans were ranked one place higher in the news media polls, L.S.U. was ranked about one place higher in the computer ratings. Each team has one loss, so the strength of schedule cost the Trojans a place in the Sugar Bowl. <BR/><BR/>''It's hard to sit here and do cartwheels,'' Tranghese said, referring to the snub of U.S.C. <BR/><BR/>Southern California won its conference championship, and Oklahoma, which was routed by Kansas State in the Big 12 title game, 35-7, did not. But U.S.C. did not have to play in a conference title game, and L.S.U. did. <BR/><BR/>Tranghese found himself saying that he felt bad for the Trojans, and Carroll said the Trojans would do their best to foul up the B.C.S.'s best-laid plans. <BR/><BR/>''The one thing I think I can say is that we are the No. 1 team in the nation, and that is undisputed,'' Trojans wide receiver Mike Williams told The Associated Press. ''If we went out and played either one of those teams, we'd give them their best games and we'd probably win. But right now, that's a whole different thing. So we'll just deal with it and move on.''rukrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005928545753221172noreply@blogger.com