tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116403147138384593..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Monday 11/20 A.M. Quickie:LaDainian, BCS, NL MVP and MoreUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164063807382400972006-11-20T18:03:00.000-05:002006-11-20T18:03:00.000-05:00no mention of pacquiao-morales?oh well...no mention of pacquiao-morales?<BR/><BR/>oh well...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164056269986661002006-11-20T15:57:00.000-05:002006-11-20T15:57:00.000-05:00HAHAHA, some egg on my face, I accidentally posted...<I>HAHAHA, some egg on my face, I accidentally posted this on the tailgate thread.</I><BR/><BR/>I'd be willing to bet that some no-name local access cable TV channel "journalist" who happens to know a Miami booster was told that they'd like to see a guy like Spurrier run that program and clean it up.<BR/><BR/>Next thing you know the story has snowballed into Spurrier having already packed his bags and accepting the job yesterday.<BR/><BR/>OF COURSE Miami would like to have Spurrier. I would imagine any self-respecting school would want a coach the calibur of Spurrier.<BR/><BR/>Shame on the ESPN journalist that ran with this story and proclaimed it to be fact. Even if the story later ends up being true, the journalism has been shoddy at best.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164052087569468602006-11-20T14:48:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:48:00.000-05:00How's this for a reversal:Aaron Rodgers is out for...How's this for a reversal:<BR/><BR/>Aaron Rodgers is out for the season with a broken foot, but Favre should be ok to play. I don't even remember who their third-string guy is.<BR/><BR/>Sign Jeff George!Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164051129373655252006-11-20T14:32:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:32:00.000-05:00I think they gave Howard the MVP to prevent Philly...I think they gave Howard the MVP to prevent Philly fans from committing suicide after losing McNabb for the season yesterday.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164050997191688472006-11-20T14:29:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:29:00.000-05:00NL MVP to Howard.Baseball writers once again prove...NL MVP to Howard.<BR/><BR/>Baseball writers once again prove how little they actually know about the game they cover.TBenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337905315011989614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164050462104816272006-11-20T14:21:00.000-05:002006-11-20T14:21:00.000-05:00frekyj~ "MLB: Call me in April.College Hoops: Cal...frekyj~ "MLB: Call me in April.<BR/><BR/>College Hoops: Call me in March.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR: Please don't call me. "<BR/><BR/>HAHAHAHAHA My sediments, exactly! (Well, NASCAR is "ok" to me. Don't call me unless we're talking about Michael Waltrip or Bobby LaBonte. I don't pay attention to it much)<BR/><BR/>Michigan lost. Period. The END. They gave it a great try. Their #1 Run Defense was exposed. Ohio State's defense wasn't much better. Like someone said before, Datish TRIED to help Michigan TWICE with his flubbed shotgun snaps (I almost had a coronary the second time!)<BR/><BR/>Troy Smith looked great. He deserves the Heisman IMO. Brady Quinn? Eh, It's not that I think he's overrated, but he's not better than Troy Smith. I am an ND fan but not the "Oh my gosh, the Irish deserve everything" fan.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164045753650336572006-11-20T13:02:00.000-05:002006-11-20T13:02:00.000-05:00Smith vs Quinn:1) Both teams will have played 7 bo...Smith vs Quinn:<BR/><BR/>1) Both teams will have played 7 bowl-eligible this season, so SOS in that regards is pretty even. Note, however, that OSU is 7-0 while ND is 6-1 against bowl-eligible opponents.<BR/><BR/>2) Smith's one truly lousy game (Penn State; versus Illinois the entire offense just was ineffectual in the second half) still resulted in him having a highlight-worthy TD pass. That's what helps him there.<BR/><BR/>3) Versus Michigan, the (still) #2 team in the country:<BR/>Smith: 29/41 316yds, 4 TDs 1 INT <BR/>Quinn: 24/48 234yds, 3 TDs 3 INTs <BR/><BR/>4) Quinn has a "genius offensive coach" Charlie Weis. Jim Tressel is just a guy in a vest. (According to the media)<BR/><BR/>5) Fiesta Bowl<BR/>Smith: 19/28 342yds, 2 TDs 0 INT<BR/>Quinn: 29/45 286yds, 0 TDs 0 INT<BR/><BR/>Now, I know that last one is going to piss some people off, but Heisman voters will remember that since it wasn't so long ago.<BR/><BR/>Does Quinn deserve to be in the Heisman discussion? Definitely. Does he deserve it over Smith? Definitely not.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164043538102805132006-11-20T12:25:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:25:00.000-05:00Sorry - seven for sure, eight if Air Force pulls i...Sorry - seven for sure, eight if Air Force pulls it out.<BR/>really nd yankee<BR/><BR/>Lets Look at the schedule:<BR/>09/02 at Ga Tech(9-2) Yes<BR/>09/09 #19 Penn State(8-4)Yes<BR/>09/16 #11 Michigan(11-1)Yes<BR/>09/23 at Mich St(4-8) No<BR/>09/30 Purdue(8-4) Yes<BR/>10/07 Stanford(1-10) No<BR/>10/21 UCLA(6-5) Maybe<BR/>10/28 at Navy(8-3) Yes<BR/>11/04 UNC(3-8) No<BR/>11/11 at Air Force(4-6)NO<BR/>11/18 Army(3-8) NO<BR/>11/25 at #3 USC(9-1) Yes<BR/><BR/>So they have played 7 teams that currently have a winning record and one of those 7 will probably fall to a 500 record when the lose to USC but ND has played 8 bowl teamsCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164043150340332942006-11-20T12:19:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:19:00.000-05:00let's remember that vandy did finish at the bottom...let's remember that vandy did finish at the bottom of the ec east. in no way was i holding them up as the flagship school of the sec. i think about 5 other teams(ark, lsu, aub, tenn, fla,) can represent. compared to the 3 big-10 teams that played this year. there was not 1 upset over those 3. but, yeah, the sec is way overrated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164042653107743812006-11-20T12:10:00.001-05:002006-11-20T12:10:00.001-05:00vandy got "beat down" by michigan 27-7? did you w...vandy got "beat down" by michigan 27-7? did you watch that game geoff? there were some boos coming from that big house crowd due to the wolverines play that day. um has come a long way since then...against the big-10. for anyone to say that the big-10 compares to the sec does not watch the games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164042526756655822006-11-20T12:08:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:08:00.000-05:00Where is manninghamforheisman???Where is manninghamforheisman???RevScottDeMangeMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220843774217781967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164042099982672972006-11-20T12:01:00.000-05:002006-11-20T12:01:00.000-05:00sorry joe, saw the location and thought you had an...sorry joe, saw the location and thought you had an allegence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164041861222728692006-11-20T11:57:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:57:00.000-05:00forget strength of schedule, how about strength of...forget strength of schedule, how about strength of perception?<BR/><BR/>ND will continue to get no credit for beating up on the armed forces (and I swear they are pushing for the Coast Guard to get a stadium)<BR/><BR/>The best team ND played to date was Michigan.<BR/><BR/>USC's field is clipped shorter than the 18th at Pinehurst No.2, good luck Saturday. <BR/><BR/>Maybe Michigan deserves a break for this season, they've had to play on two crappy fields @OSU and @ND. Maybe if you are North of the Mason-Dixon it should be a requirement to have FieldTurf.<BR/><BR/>Mmmmmm...alternating bands of Scarlet and Gray field...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164041217216703382006-11-20T11:46:00.001-05:002006-11-20T11:46:00.001-05:00@joeI wouldn't say you blew it, but jesus Datish t...@joe<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't say you blew it, but jesus Datish tried to help you guys out. I'm betting the next time we see our center he's not wearing a cast.<BR/><BR/>@solomon<BR/><BR/>how come now that UM lost to OSU they were "exposed" ? i've never understood that. Was USC a bad team last year for losing to Texas?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164041028346572062006-11-20T11:43:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:43:00.000-05:00And because he'll ask:Army: not going to a bowl ga...And because he'll ask:<BR/><BR/>Army: not going to a bowl game<BR/>Air Force: slight chance, but highly doubtful<BR/>UNC: not going to a bowl game<BR/>Stanford: not going to a bowl game<BR/>Michigan State: not going to a bowl game<BR/><BR/>What I can't figure out is how ND didn't get Temple scheduled.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040917375841602006-11-20T11:41:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:41:00.000-05:00ND's SOS is up there with a lot of teams - they pl...<I><BR/>ND's SOS is up there with a lot of teams - they played eight teams going to bowl games.</I><BR/><BR/>Uh...what? No they haven't. They've played 6. USC will be the 7th.<BR/><BR/>Our hatred may know no bounds, but at least we keep our facts straight.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040771962489262006-11-20T11:39:00.001-05:002006-11-20T11:39:00.001-05:00@RichardThe Heisman is a BS popularity contest as ...@Richard<BR/><BR/>The Heisman is a BS popularity contest as we all know, but let's not get crazy on that list of yours.<BR/><BR/>Since 1991 only 3 players have won it from schools that aren't considered "powerhouses" in CFB (with apologies to Wisco, but you aren't a household name in preseason BCS talk) and you've got what, 1 defensive winner in the last 25+ years?<BR/><BR/>So that said, sorry to the players on your list, but it is going to come down to Troy v. Brady, and since most of the voters listen to the talking heads out there, Troy has already won it.<BR/><BR/>Ginn is probably going to go pro this year as a result of Troy being out of eligibility, and I can't blame him. I wouldn't want to sit there and risk injury and a "down year" from Mel Kiper because Todd B. is learning to read defenses.<BR/><BR/>The heisman is no different than student body president (or for that matter, president of the us of a). Straight Hype.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040730035491902006-11-20T11:38:00.001-05:002006-11-20T11:38:00.001-05:00I agree that the Championship game will come down ...I agree that the Championship game will come down to USC/Mich/ND and I think the first 2 have certainly earned it.<BR/><BR/>But I don't like the reasoning for Michigan. The OSU/Michigan game looked sloppy to me, and obviously didn't have much defense. OSU's 2 quality wins are against Texas, who have been exposed, and Michigan. And Michigan has only beaten ND and a surprisingly frisky Penn State.<BR/><BR/>OSU deserves it all the way, obviously. But 2 teams essentially lost their shot at the title game: Michigan and Rutgers. They should not be given another chance, and it's only Michigan's history that is keeping them in this. They couldn't win a game a day after Bo died? Really?<BR/><BR/>OSU final opponent should be one of these three:<BR/>Florida<BR/>Arkansas (yes early games should be discounted).<BR/>USC<BR/><BR/>What about Michigan loss to OSU being an away game?<BR/><BR/>http://www.footballoutsiders.com<BR/>/print/4519/<BR/><BR/>Part way down, home field advantage is discussed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040444732725082006-11-20T11:34:00.001-05:002006-11-20T11:34:00.001-05:00LDT: Likely to shatter last year's 28 rushing TDs ...LDT: Likely to shatter last year's 28 rushing TDs record. Currently on pace for 33.<BR/><BR/>McNabb: Yea, but did he puke?<BR/><BR/>Favre: If he has to miss significant time, retire.<BR/><BR/>Colts: Peyton lets himself get far too concerned about referee calls (or lack thereof in his opinion) and starts gunning to try and make the officials throw flags.<BR/><BR/>49ers: Meh.<BR/><BR/>BCS: I'll post my new ladder rankings in the BCS thread, but Michigan made the rematch at least tempting to see. Lots of clamor today for an 8-team playoff system, which is what I've wanted to happen. You can leave non-BCS teams out of the BCS bowls, but if you leave out conference winners from the "playoffs" there WILL be lawsuits.<BR/><BR/>Spurrier: As a Gamecocks fan, I'm not really worried about this. Spurrier can't win an SEC Championship in Miami, and despite this year's record, the Gamecocks only need very minor improvements to make the SEC title game. They're only 3 freakish tipped passes caught for TD away from being in THIS year's title game.<BR/><BR/>MLB: Call me in April.<BR/><BR/>College Hoops: Call me in March.<BR/><BR/>NASCAR: Please don't call me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040444179427602006-11-20T11:34:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:34:00.000-05:00Have you guys seen this? It puts Mel Gibson to sh...Have you guys seen this? It puts Mel Gibson to shame:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/yksdkm" REL="nofollow">Kramer uncensored!</A><BR/><BR/>(Not Safe for Work)Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040423495759882006-11-20T11:33:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:33:00.000-05:00PootietangI agree with Kirk on UM vs SEC. The SEC ...Pootietang<BR/><BR/>I agree with Kirk on UM vs SEC. The SEC has no offense. Ohio State has one of, if not the, best offense in the country. <BR/>Of the teams in contention, Michigan would again give Ohio State the most fits.<BR/><BR/>Florida - not enough offense, and what they do have isn't spectacular (solid though).<BR/><BR/>Notre Dame - Likely a shoot-out though ND doesn't have as many receivers, or a running game, like Michigan does. Hit Quinn once, he goes Manning.<BR/><BR/>USC - Good defense, but that offense is nothing special. They wouldn't keep up with OSU.<BR/><BR/>Arkansas - McFadden is a stud. As good as Hart? I honestly don't know. But, same issue, Ark is a little one-dimensional. Those teams won't beat OSU.<BR/><BR/>West Virginia - I respect their running game a lot. THey would do damage to Ohio State. But their lack of D would kill them in the end.<BR/><BR/>imorafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164040251738759522006-11-20T11:30:00.001-05:002006-11-20T11:30:00.001-05:00Remember when the defenders of the BCS said that e...Remember when the defenders of the BCS said that every week of CFB was a playoff? So where did that go now that these same people (Herbie) are talking about a rematch in Glendale?<BR/><BR/>If a rematch were to happen and OSU wins, I think it cheapens the championship to some out there who will then say "they should have played USC/ND/UF instead of UM"<BR/><BR/>If UM were to win, then it cheapens the Championship because they are 1-1 v. OSU but won the "more important" game, even though they didn't win their conference but made it to the championship game.<BR/><BR/>With all apologies to Mike Hart, UM had their shot and lost. Blame the fans, the field, the hotel rooms all you want, that's why next year we play at your place.<BR/><BR/>What I'd love to see is OSU v. UF and Mich get USC in the Rose. That way we can maybe get some closure on all of this, even though USC at the Rose Bowl is a de facto home game, and Mike Hart doesn't seem to like those.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164039846280933352006-11-20T11:24:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:24:00.000-05:002 quick points for full disclosure: 1.) i am a gat...2 quick points for full disclosure: 1.) i am a gator('91) 2.) i have spent every saturday this year watching college gameday and football all day and night so i have seen all the teams i will talk about on numerous occasions(great when you have a girlfriend(ou '94) that understands your passion)<BR/><BR/>SOMEBODY HELP ME UNDERSTAND?!?!?!?!<BR/><BR/>mich v. osu: great game, but neither team played any defense. they have looked good(defensive stats) all year because they play in a down(apologies to bucky only) big-10 and haven't played anybody(osu-ut being the only possible exception, but you get what you get when you are playing against a team with a freshman qb making his first start...and ut has proven to have a not-so-good defense themselves)<BR/><BR/>usc: on gameday sat., FOR THE FIRST TIME ALL YEAR, lee corso wants to talk about the importance of non-conference wins as a measuring stick and reason to determine who should and should not go to the bcs championship game; so, usc's wins against nebraska(big 12 north champion by default suckiness), arkansas(qb situation muddled and no mcfadden), and maybe notre dame(who has beaten exactly no one), are better than either uf's or arkansas...and he is technically correct, but by a lot less than he professes. however, USC PLAYS IN THE PAC-10!!! so their non-conference games are the hardest. i understand that they can't help what conference they are in, but that does not make their schedule ok, or even come close to uf's or even arkansas'. comparing non-conference schedules is ridiculous - and where was this argument before sat.? oh, by the way...USC LOST TO OREGON FUCKING STATE!!<BR/><BR/>notre dame: one quality win possibly gets you into a national championship game? please let the earth implode if this happens. they can't go over michigan, can they? no really, they can't...can they? this is the world we live in.<BR/><BR/>the big east is exposed: i loved the run by rutgers, but never did i take them, or anyone else in the big east, seriously. they should all(sunj, wvu, lou) be glad they didn't have to go through the embarrassment of getting taken behind the woodshed by osu in the title game. schiano should run as fast as he can to miami, work his magic where he can have a legitimate shot at the national title. and, of course i hate miami, so i actually hope they retain coker.<BR/><BR/>sec: for all you people who now say the sec is overrated...you just don't get it. at the beginning of the year, when everyone was talking about how the sec is the best conference, and it would be a miracle if anyone ran the table, guess what? they were CORRECT. the conference is so tough that no one(save possibly arkansas) will go unscathed. and the depth in that conference is much much better than the big-10 or pac-10(sorry, this year the big-12 and acc don't even belong in the conversation); that is why vandy can beat georgia and give uf all they can handle, why miss can hang with and almost win at lsu,etc. the athletes are just SO MUCH BETTER than any other conference, but they all canibalize each other so the perception is that it is an overrated conference. that is backward logic...you can't say that they are a great conference because they have so many great teams, and then say they are an overrated conference once those great teams start beating each other. as great a game as mich-osu was, there is NO WAY IN HELL either of those teams drop 30 on uf, not to mention the rest of the top tier in the sec.<BR/><BR/>if i may channel kanye west, kirk herbstreit hates the sec: he said that on a neutral field, michigan wins "convincingly" if they play uf or arkansas. oh, really, kirk? so you did not see how osu ran and passed at will all day against mich? scored 42 even with all the turnovers? remember folks, this is the same guy who picked miami(fl) to win the national championship before the season...nice one. i am convinced that the espn/abc guys are instructed to downplay the sec because, years ago, the sec took most of their business to cbs. it's irresponsible biased "journalism" and big-10, pac-10, notre dame slurping, and i have lost a lot of respect for him. fowler is the only reasonable mind on that show. corso picked cal for the national championship at the beginning of the year. nice one, lee.<BR/><BR/>having said all that, i am not here to pimp uf for the title game. there is a little matter of fsu and the sec title game first. but if either uf or arkansas win out, i will not understand if they are left out, even given usc's win over arkansas. again, usc lost to oregon fucking state!! notre dame will have 1 quality win and a piss-poor sched, and michigan will have 2 quality wins(bucky, and i reluctanly add notre dame) and a mediocre sched. it is why we need a 16-team playoff...and that is the only number that will work, because you can only tell a would-be 17th team to go pound sand(like they do to a 66th team in the basketball tournament)...you can't do that to a 9th place team and be comfortable about it.<BR/><BR/>quick note: my father played for d-3 uw-whitewater in the 60's and is in their hall of fame(o and d line...double duty back in the day). whitewater was in the d-3 championship game last year and had a good showing against a powerful mount union dynasty. whitewater won their first playoff, yes, PLAYOFF, game over st. norbert sat. 59-12(go warhawks). my reason for mentioning this is that d-3 does it right...they play 10 games and have a 32 team playoff and there is no arguing the champion. it's just winner take all once the playoffs start, not somebody's opinion or numbers plugged into a computer or "style points", etc. just pure football. i just hope i see that come to fruition in d-1 during my lifetime.<BR/><BR/>sorry about the lengthy post and RIP Bo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164039542128040692006-11-20T11:19:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:19:00.000-05:00@Joe (Dayton)Dude, we all hate Notre Dame (except ...@Joe (Dayton)<BR/><BR/>Dude, we all hate Notre Dame (except ndyanks), we don't need any further proof of their suckiness. We all know they'll get theirs against USC.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164039307201116042006-11-20T11:15:00.000-05:002006-11-20T11:15:00.000-05:00I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning and ...I was listening to Mike and Mike this morning and they had a guy Brad something or other who is a BCS expert and basically he said it is down to 3 teams with a mathmatical shot at playing Ohio State.<BR/><BR/>Michigan<BR/>USC<BR/>FloridaCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.com