tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116489166320934790..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: UNC beats Ohio State:Who's College Hoops' No. 1?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164925401629322912006-11-30T17:23:00.000-05:002006-11-30T17:23:00.000-05:00Come on Shanoff, I thought you were a Gator? And i...Come on Shanoff, I thought you were a Gator? And if you are, what makes you think they won't repeat??<BR/><BR/>They played like crap against Kansas throughout the first half.. and still almost won, in what was essentially a home game for Kansas.<BR/><BR/>Gators are still the champs until someone unseats them..<BR/><BR/>GO GATORSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164917256497589102006-11-30T15:07:00.000-05:002006-11-30T15:07:00.000-05:00Using potential as a basis for the rankings is exa...Using potential as a basis for the rankings is exactly what gets this system screwed up. Not so much in college hoops, but in football.<BR/><BR/>Writers use the rankings to partly measure potential (or, in the case of the preseason, to completely measure potential). Then, the writers base each week's rankings off the last week's - meaning that the potential is still a factor. Then, at the end of the year, the rankings determine - not reflect, determine - how well a team fared over the season.<BR/><BR/>To summarize, a pretty important factor in a team's end-of-season ranking (which determines how well their season went) is what the voters thought their potential was during the preseason...which the team can't control. Summarized that way, it seems ludicrous, but it's the system we have.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164911013429289122006-11-30T13:23:00.000-05:002006-11-30T13:23:00.000-05:00I'm a UNC grad and huge fan. So, I admit I am a b...I'm a UNC grad and huge fan. So, I admit I am a bit biased. Greg Oden should have a significant impact on Ohio State's future success. However, to assume that Carolina will be the same team come March is absurd. Right now, UNC has a lot of work to do on defense. Also, yesterday was the first time they've had much perimeter shooting whatsoever. Roy will get all the kinks worked out by tourney time. <BR/><BR/>Ohio State's downfall last night was having a very shallow bench and a few too many early fouls. UNC ate up the zone defense in the second half. Even with Oden, Ohio State, or anyone for that matter, will not be as deep talent-wise as Carolina. But, as we all know, pure talent doesn't win national championships. <BR/><BR/>Irvin's comments are not comparable to an announcer calling white players "scrappy." If the announcer called a black player "scrappy" and continued to joke around about his having white ancestry. Then, it would be comparable and much, much worse. I'm very disappointed with the direction ESPN has taken. There's just too much of a monopoly situation in the media.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164909396381767132006-11-30T12:56:00.000-05:002006-11-30T12:56:00.000-05:00UCLA should be #1 and will probably win it all sin...UCLA should be #1 and will probably win it all since they no longer have Dan's favorite player (Farmar). Ohio State did look really good last night and with Oden in the line up they probably would have won that game. I thought they were a little overrated, but they proved that was untrue.<BR/><BR/>Side note on Dudley. The guy needs to come down with all of the anger on the court. It's old. Everyone knows you're good, so calm down a little.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16291036839803295637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164908281065765742006-11-30T12:38:00.000-05:002006-11-30T12:38:00.000-05:00How did I know I'd wake up this morning after an i...How did I know I'd wake up this morning after an impressive Carolina comeback only to hear Shanny find issue with the win. Get off Carolina's back. They won against the team that was put on the court. Don't tell me about potential. Every team has potential. I would have expected this if Florida had lost to Caroline (due to his affiliation)...but OSU? C'mon man! Give credit where credit is due!!!Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305096508964522753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164903659346804342006-11-30T11:20:00.000-05:002006-11-30T11:20:00.000-05:00I have to say I was very excited for the possibili...I have to say I was very excited for the possibility that Greg Oden would be the first freshman in history to be a pre-season All-American, but clearly after the wrist injury that wasn't going to happen.<BR/><BR/>I watched Oden in High School and anyone who thinks that he won't be as good as they say is a moron (read: one of those people who said LeBron wouldn't live up to the hype).<BR/><BR/>OSU showed me that they are a real team without Oden which, to be honest, scares the livin' crap out of me. I thought they wouldn't be good till Oden showed up. The prospect of the outside shooting we saw last night from OSU combining with the dominating presence of Oden on the inside is staggering.<BR/><BR/>On a very important note: Dicky V said at one point during this game "I haven't seen This much talent on a college basketball court in a long time!" He might have said "baby", but I'm not sure. He didn't bother to explain why.<BR/><BR/>The answer is simple: They should be in the NBA. Seriously, I've seen a bunch of college games so far and there are so many guys that would have been drafted. But because of the NBA's stupid rule, we have to watch them play against inferior competition for at least a year.<BR/><BR/>People who say that LeBron would have been a great college player, but not the best ever, should watch this season. Imagine if the other High Schoolers had gone NBA that season but LeBron went to college (even scarier he was commited to AKRON). You remember LeBron's rookie year? Apply that to college competition.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164900194521513002006-11-30T10:23:00.000-05:002006-11-30T10:23:00.000-05:00Man, it would have been pretty clever if anybody h...Man, it would have been pretty clever if anybody had thought to put OSU at #1 preseason. Too bad nobody had the foresight.john (east lansing, mi)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03872457640564913468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164899531774328222006-11-30T10:12:00.000-05:002006-11-30T10:12:00.000-05:00@ solomonrexliberal mouthpieces?lol Isn't it the ...@ solomonrex<BR/><BR/>liberal mouthpieces?<BR/><BR/><BR/>lol Isn't it the conservative mouthpieces who don't believe racism exists?<BR/><BR/>Just messin'.<BR/><BR/>Since Pete Rose, Charlie Hustle, and probably earlier...the image of the white athlete as being the scrappy, hard-worker has been ingrained in folk. It is stereotyping..is it racism? Dunno. Tehre are scrappy, hard working black players and there are fluid, talented white players. But those guys don't bring headlines. <BR/><BR/>Is it racism that you focus your anger and vitriol against Irvin...not against the Dickie V's that comment on 'scrappy white players' like Dan mentioned? :)rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164898738775815962006-11-30T09:58:00.000-05:002006-11-30T09:58:00.000-05:00"On that note however, is what Michael Irvin said ..."On that note however, is what Michael Irvin said the other day about an athletic white player having some black ancestry any worse than almost EVERY sports media member saying that white players are "scrappy, gritty, smart, tough, hard-working, etc" ? "<BR/><BR/>That's the same thing! They're saying black players are gifted and white players have to work harder to have the same success!!!<BR/><BR/>Everyone conveniently forgets that ESPN crucifies people like John Rocker and Kerry Collins, who don't get paid to talk, and lets millionaire co-host Michael Irvin off the hook completely, going so far as to use their liberal mouthpieces (Dan and Keith) to absolve him of blame.<BR/><BR/>How can ESPN say they have an ombudsman if they're actively covering things up, instead of reporting them? Isn't it obvious that the ombudsman must be crooked, too?<BR/><BR/>If Irvin had been white, Dan and Keith would have grilled him for 20 minutes about his racist views and it would be splattered all over the front page of ESPN like the world was ending, and roughly 1,200 black athletes would have commented about how racism still exists.<BR/><BR/>So where's Dungy's outrage? How is one form of racist comments ok, but not another?<BR/><BR/>This proves how hypocritical ESPN really is. They're all about the $. If black racism is ok, and white racism isn't, that's racism. They have lost all credibility in my eyes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164895909392975892006-11-30T09:11:00.000-05:002006-11-30T09:11:00.000-05:00Thankfully, I watched the game at a bar with the v...Thankfully, I watched the game at a bar with the volume turned off. That made it tons of fun.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164894257065317092006-11-30T08:44:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:44:00.000-05:00Wow the Shanoff jinx is in full force for Florida ...Wow the Shanoff jinx is in full force for Florida this year. Shanoff is convinced that Florida can repeat as champs, because they return all the starters and role players.<BR/><BR/>NOW players are coming down with mononucleosis. I've had mono before and you can't have any physical contact for 3 months because of the potential damage to your liver and spleen, and you're severely fatigued in the following months afterward.<BR/><BR/>Anyone on Florida getting mono now will be medically cleared to come back in March, however they won't have the energy to fully compete.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164893472431523952006-11-30T08:31:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:31:00.000-05:00Live the by the 3...die by the 3...(please see OSU...Live the by the 3...die by the 3...(please see OSU's 18 point loss to G'Town in last year's NCAA)<BR/><BR/>Also...Oden looks like he is 40 years old. Him, Lebron, and Freddy Adu...I want to meet all 3 of them and ask them what the 70's were like.RevScottDeMangeMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220843774217781967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164893189742615612006-11-30T08:26:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:26:00.000-05:00I was very surprised by how well Ohio State played...I was very surprised by how well Ohio State played. The score ended up reflecting the double-digit loss I expected, but it was a much closer game than the score indicated. Heck, OSU did dominate the first half.<BR/><BR/>I think the downfall for OSU last night came down to two things (1) Hansborough finally getting some room inside (as did #34..I dont know his name) and (2) OSU's younger players kept going for the flashier, far more difficult shot as opposed to a jump shot or passing to an open teammate. That did a lot to slow down their offense in the 2nd half.<BR/><BR/>Still, great game. Will Oden make a huge difference? I think so. Either way, it'll be fun to watch.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164892949127199342006-11-30T08:22:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:22:00.000-05:00Ok, thinking about that game I realize that Tyler ...Ok, thinking about that game I realize that Tyler Hansborogh(sp?) is one of my favorite players in college hoops. He reminds me of Kenyon Martin with his violent dunks and the way he plays with emotion on his sleeve.<BR/><BR/>I did the opposite cop-out on that. I could have easily comapred Hansborogh(sp?) to a random white power forward in the league (Troy Murphy?) but I really belive he most compares to Martin (sans the broken legs).<BR/><BR/>On that note however, is what Michael Irvin said the other day about an athletic white player having some black ancestry any worse than almost EVERY sports media member saying that white players are "scrappy, gritty, smart, tough, hard-working, etc" ? <BR/><BR/>I say no, at least with Irvin he was obviously joking and making (a poor attempt) at a compliment. <BR/><BR/>What the writers are saying is inherently racist in the fact that if only white players are considred scrappy and hard working it conversely means black players are lazy, don't have to work as hard and aren't as smart. <BR/><BR/>I think that's more damaging to the American sports scene than any (poor) joke about an athletic white player.Garyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12578294344206366226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1164892646052949682006-11-30T08:17:00.000-05:002006-11-30T08:17:00.000-05:00Speaking of College Basketball let give some props...Speaking of College Basketball let give some props to Jared Dudley of BC who 30 points and 10 Rebound pretty much carried BC to the win over Michigan StateCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.com