tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116524111374114187..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Monday 12/04 A.M. Quickie:BCS Decision: The Morning AfterUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger124125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165296940870317212006-12-05T00:35:00.000-05:002006-12-05T00:35:00.000-05:00AAU is grad school. Like with many academic ranki...AAU is grad school. <BR/><BR/>Like with many academic rankings, it's tailored to support one part of academia when it comes to grant money. hehe<BR/><BR/>Miami University (sigh..of Ohio) is one of the top undergraduate public universities... we're proud of that and are not big into the research. But if you compare undergrads...we're tops in Ohio. :) <BR/><BR/><BR/>and 2-10 in football. boorafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165283738667265292006-12-04T20:55:00.000-05:002006-12-04T20:55:00.000-05:00I stopped reading all the posts too. I saw the Co...I stopped reading all the posts too. <BR/><BR/>I saw the College BB poll and was shocked the pollsters didnt listen to Dan and keep OSU #1. (j/k)<BR/><BR/>Actually, I'm shocked Maryland is still in the Top 25, I got excited about them too soon.Mikepcflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08980600874603719777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165277252830001462006-12-04T19:07:00.000-05:002006-12-04T19:07:00.000-05:00college basketball rankings are up... florida drop...college basketball rankings are up... florida dropped to 7, georgetown is out, g-tech is 25 in one poll and out completely in another. UCLA is number 1.<BR/><BR/>sorry if this is a repeat, i stopped reading about the BCS after comment 120. :)Sheldizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198083524704018695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165275741214551112006-12-04T18:42:00.000-05:002006-12-04T18:42:00.000-05:00Holy frickin crap. I ain't reading 400 comments, ...Holy frickin crap. I ain't reading 400 comments, let alone 178. Can we start breaking up the topics please? All this BCS stuff gives me a headache.marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165274228685006002006-12-04T18:17:00.000-05:002006-12-04T18:17:00.000-05:00@SethertonBC isn't on that AAU list (you provided)...@Setherton<BR/><BR/>BC isn't on that AAU list (you provided) either, and we traditionally have one of the highest graduation rates among football players, and certainly are a competitive (Top 50 US News rankings). <BR/><BR/>I don't get the point of your list either, if it's aimed at graduate studies/research, when we're discussing undergrad. <BR/><BR/>-Todd (Boston)ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165272699612627172006-12-04T17:51:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:51:00.000-05:00This is just more proof that the NFL has a far sur...This is just more proof that the NFL has a far surperior system and league than the NCAA does.<BR/><BR/>With the exception of last year's Superbowl, the best team always wins.Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165271008572503292006-12-04T17:23:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:23:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Mikepcflhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08980600874603719777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165270066836267622006-12-04T17:07:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:07:00.000-05:00Here's the rub on the FL-UM issue:If the ONLY offi...Here's the rub on the FL-UM issue:<BR/><BR/>If the ONLY official poll in college football was at the end of the season, Michigan has almost no gripe. Half of the Michigan argument is that they did nothing the past two weeks to get penalized and fall behind Florida - well, if there are no real polls until the end of the season, then that argument is out the window.<BR/><BR/>Florida-OSU is the better game, avoiding the possible headache of 3 national champions if OSU-Michigan had played again and Michigan beat them (OSU and Michigan both claim the title by virtue of their 1-1 record v. each other, Florida by rationale of not getting to play either and only having 1 loss)Chaddogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381349910580062539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165269720488125432006-12-04T17:02:00.000-05:002006-12-04T17:02:00.000-05:00@EdTotally agree. Nothing is ever 100% perfect or ...@Ed<BR/><BR/>Totally agree. Nothing is ever 100% perfect or fair. Although it has made for an interesting debated and reading topic to help pass my work day. lol<BR/><BR/>I also agree with the point that other people have made that as long as the BCS bowls are as lucrative as they are currently, there is no motivation to change the system, even if it would make more money in the end. Kinda like the bird in the hand is better than two in the bush theory. As far as the schools making all the loot off these games are concerned, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.Aitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465798018639732646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165267914058897012006-12-04T16:31:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:31:00.000-05:00AP could name it own championDon't see how it's po...<I> AP could name it own champion</I><BR/><BR/>Don't see how it's possible. Like I worked out earlier, Florida > Ohio State > Michigan > Wisconsin is based solely on head-to-head. The AP is supposed to be journalists and therefore possess journalistic integrity. Because OSU beat Michigan earlier this season, I don't see any scenario where the AP can legitimately choose to make someone besides the championship game winner their national champion.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165267791535485252006-12-04T16:29:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:29:00.000-05:00So, according to your logic, Dan...if you play the...So, according to your logic, Dan...if you play the #1 team in the country, you can't get into the national championship game (assuming you lose). Wouldn't that be the end of our great regular season matchups? (i.e. OSU-Texas this year)Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165267154442442892006-12-04T16:19:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:19:00.000-05:00Here is a problem with the NCAA if Florida wins an...Here is a problem with the NCAA if Florida wins and they might actually do it they are not necessarily going to be the undisputed champion there senarios where the AP could name it own champion and might do just to say screw you to the BCS if Ohio State losesCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165267043701255102006-12-04T16:17:00.001-05:002006-12-04T16:17:00.001-05:00@chrth~yes, that is very funny.Congrats to Anthony...@chrth~<BR/>yes, that is very funny.<BR/><BR/>Congrats to Anthony Gonzalez!!Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165267034943115942006-12-04T16:17:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:17:00.000-05:00h--I never wrote that I didn't like the current po...h--<BR/><BR/>I never wrote that I didn't like the current poll system for determing who plays for the DI college championship. What I did write, or meant to write however unclearly, is that it really doesn't matter whether the last two teams standing are determined by a seasonlong polling system or an end-of-season tournament.<BR/><BR/>Michigan may be better than Florida, but that doesn't mean Michigan would beat Florida if the teams played. Such a game would [produce a result and be awfully fun to watch, but the winner wouldn't have a claim to anything beyond the victory.<BR/><BR/>The victory would be important, but it would just mean one team played better in one game, or got more calls, or had fewer injuries.<BR/><BR/>What I want o see is for everyone to stop railing about the need for fairness in the system. No system will produce a fair result 100% of time.Ed Lambhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15413250256732954601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165266963110123542006-12-04T16:16:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:16:00.000-05:00Someone's always going to be left out. Doesn't ma...Someone's always going to be left out. Doesn't matter if you have a playoff or stick with the current system. The advantage of a playoff, however, is that you are getting the best 2 or 3 or 4 teams every year. Who cares if you have problems with the difference between 8 & 9, or 16 & 17?<BR/><BR/>And I don't really care about the Tressel thing, either. The "he voted every other week" argument is BS, in my opinion. It's only the final poll that matters. Florida jumping Michigan proves that point. It would have been great for him to say, "I think that this team is the 2nd-best, and I want to play them," but he didn't. He doesn't want to create bulletin-board material. Who can blame him?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165266897567795762006-12-04T16:14:00.001-05:002006-12-04T16:14:00.001-05:00Odd that Vandy is also the only SEC team to never ...Odd that Vandy is also the only SEC team to never be on NCAA probation, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>They just ain't trying hard enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165266845412695242006-12-04T16:14:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:14:00.000-05:00Greg Oden not dominating enough? Okay, pretend yo...Greg Oden not dominating enough? Okay, pretend you're a coach of a major D-1 hoops program. Would you pass on 14/10/5 (pts/reb/blks) from your star frosh's college debut? If he posts those numbers every game, they'll take it. <BR/><BR/>Conspiracy Theory #99188: Oden is "saving" himself for the NBA. Knowing he's a lock for #1 next year, Oden simply "mails it in" and throws up <I>only</I> double doubles every game of his short collegiate career to go with half a dozen blocks every game because he's simply bored, but tries to avoid injury.Jingoisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01269679565181077961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165266697692309172006-12-04T16:11:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:11:00.000-05:00Vanderbilt notwithstanding... Yeah, I was going to...<I>Vanderbilt notwithstanding... <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, I was going to say ...<BR/><BR/>Although I believe the ACC has all of the major conferences trumped in academics. IIRC, the reason West Virginia was never considered for the expansion was due to their academic standing.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165266211459104012006-12-04T16:03:00.000-05:002006-12-04T16:03:00.000-05:00Anyone else find it funny that Dan lambasted Tress...Anyone else find it funny that Dan lambasted Tressel (again), yet the site he linked to, FanIQ, gave Tressel mad props?Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165265049285844812006-12-04T15:44:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:44:00.000-05:00Something interesting that I've gone back and done...Something interesting that I've gone back and done with the ladder ranking, just for some informational purposes. I've taken the top 25 ladder teams (so far) and found the average rating score of their opponents. These were found using the simple formula of adding together all the ratings of the teams played this season and dividing the total by the number of games played.<BR/><BR/>1) Ohio State -- 995.9<BR/>2) Oklahoma -- 884.3<BR/>3) Louisville -- 1071.8<BR/>4) Boise State -- 863.5<BR/>5) Florida -- 1085.9<BR/>6) LSU -- 1082.0<BR/>7) Virginia Tech -- 947.2<BR/>8) Wisconsin -- 825.0<BR/>9) Brigham Young -- 887.8<BR/>10) Michigan -- 1140.3<BR/>11) Wake Forest -- 882.0<BR/>12) USC -- 1159.6<BR/>13) West Virginia -- 1018.6<BR/>14) Notre Dame -- 1035.7<BR/>15) Auburn -- 981.7<BR/>16) Rutgers -- 1005.3<BR/>17) Tennessee -- 1117.5<BR/>18) Oregon State -- 1127.1<BR/>19) TCU -- 865<BR/>20) Hawaii -- 925.8<BR/>21) Houston -- 853.3<BR/>22) Arkansas -- 1031.3<BR/>23) Texas A&M -- 933.4<BR/>24) Central Michigan -- 919.2<BR/>25) Rice -- 953<BR/><BR/>Who had the toughest schedule out of the top 25 ladder teams? USC, Michigan, Oregon State, Tennessee, Florida, in that order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165263935056660242006-12-04T15:25:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:25:00.000-05:00@EdJust a point of clarification here, I was in no...@Ed<BR/><BR/>Just a point of clarification here, I was in no way trying to shoot down your argument bro. I was seriously trying to understand it. I'm not a huge CFB guy and frankly whether they have a playoff or polls makes no nevermind to me. I don't know enough about how the polls work to speak intelligently about if scenario A happens then it will affect teams b & c and so forth. I was just tryin to get a clear picture of how you saw things.<BR/><BR/>You are obviously against the playoff idea, but also say that you don't like the polls either. So I guess I was wondering if you had a siggestion for how it should be done...Aitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465798018639732646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165263823220178532006-12-04T15:23:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:23:00.000-05:00Just wanted you to know that wisconsin did have Vi...Just wanted you to know that wisconsin did have Virginia Tech and Oregon State as non conference games scheduled this year but both teams backed out in the last few years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165263770724652952006-12-04T15:22:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:22:00.000-05:00@biff,My mistake. I should've mentioned that Bois...@biff,<BR/><BR/>My mistake. I should've mentioned that Boise State was an obvious exception.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165263310313678882006-12-04T15:15:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:15:00.000-05:00What exactly are the by-laws that say Michigan and...What exactly are the by-laws that say Michigan and Florida can't schedule a game for Dec. 17th....winner gets OSU, loser gets USC? <BR/><BR/>If I had $25 million, I'd offer it up right now to get a game like that on. Is the NCAA going to sue? Ha!Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165263211263862182006-12-04T15:13:00.000-05:002006-12-04T15:13:00.000-05:00I have a suggestion that cures this all. Here's wh...I have a suggestion that cures this all. <BR/><BR/>Here's what I gather:<BR/><BR/>1) No one outside of Michigan really wants to see them play Ohio St. again<BR/>2) No one really thinks Florida played well enough to be in the National Championship game, at least in most years, right? That they're only in because they played in the (allegedly) hardest conference, had the toughest schedule, not that they were the 2nd best. <BR/><BR/>So? Don't play a National Championship game, declare Ohio St. the winner. <BR/><BR/>Does anyone really think they're not the best team in the nation? Seriously, in my mind (for the record, my team is in the ACC), even if Florida or Michigan beat OSU, Ohio St. is still the best team in the nation. <BR/><BR/>Seems fair to me. Now, can we move on? Well, at least I will... <BR/><BR/>For instance, that Reggie Bush kid, he could actually be pretty good. <BR/><BR/>-Todd (Boston)ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.com