tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116550333725516452..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Thursday 12/07 A.M. Quickie:Troy Smith for Heisman? Why...NOT.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165555121829015502006-12-08T00:18:00.000-05:002006-12-08T00:18:00.000-05:00The most dominant college football player is Joe T...The most dominant college football player is Joe Thomas, tackle, Wisconsin. He should win the Heisman!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165550787277262932006-12-07T23:06:00.000-05:002006-12-07T23:06:00.000-05:00Say what you want, but the fact that there aren't ...Say what you want, but the fact that there aren't any CBS or FOX promos during the game (in stunning HD, of course...thanks, Adelphia) makes the NFL network telecast, well....not that bad.<BR/><BR/>natsfan, you're on the island? I had a blast for a week this past summer with the then-future mrs. (ok, she's not a mrs., she's a dr.) How many home games do the Rainbows get a year? I know the NCAA gives them an extra game per year, but are teams lining up for the chance to visit each year?<BR/><BR/>the red sox last year taught me that you don't trade pitching just because you have it! will the white sox learn that soon enough into the season?Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165541138756622702006-12-07T20:25:00.000-05:002006-12-07T20:25:00.000-05:00I would've traded Buehrle if I was the Sox.But I w...I would've traded Buehrle if I was the Sox.<BR/><BR/>But I will argue that Troy Smith was the running force behind the OSU offense. I don't think you could stick another QB in who would do just as well. I really don't.<BR/><BR/>Not to underscore McFadden's importance to Arkansas, of course. I agree, Dan. Vote for the player who isn't up there just because he's on the #1 team. The Heisman is way too biased.MPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05833230465240793728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165534005666674572006-12-07T18:26:00.000-05:002006-12-07T18:26:00.000-05:00Colt Brennan did play against Purdue, so that's bi...Colt Brennan did play against Purdue, so that's big 10 right? He was 33/48 for 434yds and 3 td's. But then again the Big 11 stinks this year, so you have to discount that, but don't count that against Troy Smith. The truth is, other then Michigan, the only tough Defense that Troy Smith faced this year was in practice. So go blow his stats out your ass.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165533831046292682006-12-07T18:23:00.000-05:002006-12-07T18:23:00.000-05:00Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, maybe Dwayne Jarr...Calvin Johnson, Adrian Peterson, maybe Dwayne Jarrett, Quinn, Ted Ginn, Chad Henne maybe, Robert Meachem...those are just some skill guys that will or could be in the draft.Joshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08338217120051516790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165527560223389432006-12-07T16:39:00.000-05:002006-12-07T16:39:00.000-05:00Wait a minute, is Samardjiza coming out? So, at l...Wait a minute, is Samardjiza coming out? So, at least the fantasy world has a potential superstar coming out. He's a classic big target outlet receiver for a bad QB.<BR/><BR/>Too much depends on which team they end up with. It looks like Quinn will be the first QB taken, however.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165526519636635772006-12-07T16:21:00.000-05:002006-12-07T16:21:00.000-05:00Bonds to St. Louis? Does Bonds think that threat w...Bonds to St. Louis? Does Bonds think that threat will hold enough water to make SF sign him quickly?<BR/><BR/>The White Sox had the one thing most coveted in sports right now - quality starting pitching making less than $10M per season. Why would they trade Garcia for such little return when they see what guys like Lilly and Meche are getting on their own? Future Schmuture.... <BR/><BR/>As a UH season ticket holder (Go 'Bows), I have had plenty of opportunity to watch their various quarterbacks. They still call a pass on 78% of their downs, they threw the ball over 50 times in 3 games this year, and under 40 times in 3 games, so add in the called passes that became runs (scrambles and sacks) and you are back to 50 per game. Their running game is a ruse to keep defenses almost honest, but their running yards are largely draw plays and quarterback keepers. <BR/><BR/>No doubt Colt is a great passer, but his numbers compare to David Klingler and Andre Ware - largely inflated due to the type of offense. In 2001, Nick Rolovich threw for 373 yards per game and 4 TD per game. This is a system that allows for explosive numbers.Natsfan74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02774593132826810650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165526368845255862006-12-07T16:19:00.000-05:002006-12-07T16:19:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Natsfan74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02774593132826810650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165525216421653782006-12-07T16:00:00.000-05:002006-12-07T16:00:00.000-05:00I actually agree with you that five guys should go...I actually agree with you that five guys should go to NYC - it's great for these kids to be honored, even if everyone knows they're not gonna win. Besides, everyone knows Troy's gonna win it this year - why didn't they just invite him?Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165524472066496402006-12-07T15:47:00.000-05:002006-12-07T15:47:00.000-05:00Did someone actually in all seriousness say they a...Did someone actually in all seriousness say they are excited about the Bob Davie era starting for their school? Wow. Just wow. The only exciting thing about that would be getting him out of the booth.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07353671003212539401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165523537887472082006-12-07T15:32:00.000-05:002006-12-07T15:32:00.000-05:00Anybody bother to ACTUALLY CHECK THE STATS ON THE ...Anybody bother to <B>ACTUALLY CHECK THE STATS ON THE HAWAI'I OFFENSE BEFORE POSTING?</B><BR/><BR/>revscott said...<BR/>"offenses that throw the ball 50+ times a game..."<BR/><BR/>natsfan74 said...<BR/>"but he is in a system that throws teh ball 50-60 times a game with no real running game."<BR/><BR/>Geoff-detroit said...<BR/>"Didn't Tommy Chong or whatever pass for a billion yards there, too?"<BR/><BR/>ok. in order....<BR/><BR/>REVSCOTT and NATSFAN74-<BR/>the Rainbow Warriors throw the ball <B>LESS THAT 40 TIMES A GAME</B> and I could be wrong, but last time I checked, numbers that are less than 40 are not more between 50 and 60 or more than 50<BR/><BR/>NATSFAN74-<BR/>on the no real running game comment...<BR/>FACT: Hawai'i has more rushing yards than Maryland, UCLA, Alabama, Miami, Pitt, BC, Tennesse, and here's the killer <B>NOTRE DAME</B><BR/>care to retract your statement?<BR/><BR/>Geoff-Detroit-<BR/>We will assume by Tommy Chong you meant Timmy Chang (or Timothy Kealii'okaaina Awa Chang).<BR/>This is Colt's Junior year. I will Compare it with the average Timmy Chang year.<BR/>AVG CHANG: 347/609 Passing, 57% CMP, 4268 YRDS, 7 YPA, 29 TD, 20 INT, 1.5 Rush TD, 121.1 QB RAT<BR/>BRENNEN: 373/517 PASSING, 72.1% CMP, 4990 YRDS, 9.7 YPA, 53 TD, 11 INT, 5 Rush TD, 182.8 QB RAT<BR/><BR/>So in short, Colt completes more passes in fewer attempts for more yards on a better average, for almost twice as many TDs and almost half as many INTs, with more than 3 times as many rushing TDs, and Chang's passer rating is 2/3 of his.<BR/><BR/>But yeah, the same as Chang.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165522369103679712006-12-07T15:12:00.000-05:002006-12-07T15:12:00.000-05:002. If Pete Carrol can be a success basically just ...2. If Pete Carrol can be a success basically just recruiting and QB coaching, I'm sure Kosar can match up with that. Everyone is impressed with his football IQ. It worked for Spurrier. Miami needs an X's and O's guy very little in the ACC, and former quarterbacks are more likely to develop coaching skills anyway.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Do not underestimate how good of a defensive coach Pete Carroll is, he was the D-Coordinator on some successful 49ers teamsCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165522269170495172006-12-07T15:11:00.000-05:002006-12-07T15:11:00.000-05:00I for one am so happy that Tom O'Brien is leaving ...I for one am so happy that Tom O'Brien is leaving BC and taking his Dungy/Shoettheimer disease with him. Just like those to Coaches O'Brien could never really get his team to win when they needed it.<BR/><BR/>Look at the Miami game this year or the Syracuse game 2 years ago when I win meant a BCS Bowl.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I can not wait for the Bob Davie era to start at BC.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165522017797931132006-12-07T15:06:00.000-05:002006-12-07T15:06:00.000-05:00No major quarterbacks this year have what it takes...No major quarterbacks this year have what it takes to succeed in the NFL. Not Smith, not Quinn, not Slaton, not Brohm.<BR/><BR/><BR/>I am by no means a Brady Quinn fan but he is going to be a solid pro. He is already successfully running a pro offense I think he is the most poised to jump right into the NFLCMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165521092309470852006-12-07T14:51:00.000-05:002006-12-07T14:51:00.000-05:00tbenderI can be your agent. We'll get the Koufax c...<B>tbender</B><BR/><BR/>I can be your agent. We'll get the Koufax comparisons started ASAP (ala Borass)Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165520889480199222006-12-07T14:48:00.000-05:002006-12-07T14:48:00.000-05:00Royals sign Gil Meche for 5 yrs/55 mil?!Folks, thi...Royals sign Gil Meche for 5 yrs/55 mil?!<BR/><BR/>Folks, this is why they are the worst team in the MLB.<BR/><BR/>And that huge sigh of relief you just heard? It was all the White Sox fans thanking the good Lord that Jon Garland did not get traded to Houston for crap.<BR/><BR/>Garcia to the Phils for a AA or AAA guy in Gonzalez, then another pitcher that SUCKED in the NL? Methinks Kenny Williams got fleeced in this deal. With the huge salaries these pitchers are getting, he should be getting at least 1 more player in that deal.Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165520766904878292006-12-07T14:46:00.000-05:002006-12-07T14:46:00.000-05:00Kitna put up gaudy numbers at Cinncinnati, just li...Kitna put up gaudy numbers at Cinncinnati, just like Palmer. Leinart may or may not be successful. So comparing Brennan to these guys is valid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165520424716290572006-12-07T14:40:00.000-05:002006-12-07T14:40:00.000-05:00Re: SmithComparing Smith to Toretta is a joke. To...Re: Smith<BR/>Comparing Smith to Toretta is a joke. Toretta won the Heisman because of the 3-step gun formation and Miami's loaded roster. Never has anyone less mobile played football.<BR/><BR/>Re: Meche<BR/>One of us needs to file for MLB Free Agency. I'm betting we get someone to offer 4 years / $20 million sight unseen out of reflex.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165520088104792732006-12-07T14:34:00.000-05:002006-12-07T14:34:00.000-05:00"Didn't a SYSTEM also produce back to back Heisman..."Didn't a SYSTEM also produce back to back Heisman winning QBs in Carson Palmer and Matt Lienart?"<BR/><BR/>- Yeah that Palmer sure is a system QB and I guess he lucked out in the NFL as well going into the QB factory that is the Cincinatti Bengals System (a system that produced such legends as Kitna, Akili Smith, & Klingler)<BR/><BR/>DON'T compare Brennan to Palmer or Leinart, you just look foolish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165519159988274962006-12-07T14:19:00.000-05:002006-12-07T14:19:00.000-05:00The Royals just pumped out 55 million for 5 years ...The Royals just pumped out 55 million for 5 years of Gil Meche?<BR/><BR/>Do they THINK this counts as "playing with the big boys"?<BR/><BR/>Eeeeyikes! How many years until they dump that salary to some wild-card desperate team in July?Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165517032501694312006-12-07T13:43:00.000-05:002006-12-07T13:43:00.000-05:00Colt Brennan is a great quarterback, but not a Hei...Colt Brennan is a great quarterback, but not a Heisman Trophy quarterback. He is an accurate passer with a strong arm, but he is in a system that throws teh ball 50-60 times a game with no real running game. This is the same system that allowed Timmy Chang to put up the same type of numbers. But for more perspective, Chang had 6 years of college with two red-shirt seasons due to injury. In his 2 red-shirt seasons, the back-ups also put up ridiculous numbers. In 2001, Nick Rolovich threw for 543 yards and 8 touchdowns against undefeated BYU. And let's not forget to decrease these numbers by the obligatory 20% for playing in the defenseless WAC.Natsfan74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02774593132826810650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165516742990431002006-12-07T13:39:00.000-05:002006-12-07T13:39:00.000-05:00Hey, the Heisman is presented by the Downtown Athl...Hey, the Heisman is presented by the Downtown Athletic Club of New York.<BR/><BR/>If we wanted to shell out a cool mil for nice looking trophy, I bet we could organize our own award, and vote on it ourselves. And have ESPN carry the ceremony.Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165514166397368922006-12-07T12:56:00.000-05:002006-12-07T12:56:00.000-05:002003 results - 1st Jason White, 2nd Larry Fitzgera...2003 results - 1st Jason White, 2nd Larry Fitzgerald, 3rd Eli Manning<BR/><BR/>2006 - 1st Troy Smith, 2nd Darren McFadden, 3rd Brady Quinn<BR/><BR/>I think that's a pretty good comparison between two Heisman classes.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16291036839803295637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165513916040254552006-12-07T12:51:00.000-05:002006-12-07T12:51:00.000-05:00How can Colt Brennan not win the Heisman?David Kli...How can Colt Brennan not win the Heisman?<BR/><BR/>David Klingler.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1165513720446114532006-12-07T12:48:00.000-05:002006-12-07T12:48:00.000-05:00ndyanks05...already mentioned his troubled past. ...ndyanks05...<BR/><BR/>already mentioned his troubled past. and yes, i saw that piece and wanted to vomit.<BR/><BR/>Wow...we agree on something...maybe we CAN get along! If I can chaaaaaaange...then you can chaaaaaaaaange! We all can chaaaaaaaaange!<BR/><BR/>Charlie Weis is fatRevScottDeMangeMDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02220843774217781967noreply@blogger.com