tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116671145990443772..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Thursday 12/21 A.M. Quickie:In Defense of Tanking a SeasonUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166761642007354612006-12-21T23:27:00.000-05:002006-12-21T23:27:00.000-05:00sonofabeeyotch...who would take a rookie QB on the...sonofabeeyotch...who would take a rookie QB on the road? <BR/><BR/>I think Bubba Franks singlehandedly wants to cost me my picks pool for the year. That was unwatchable seeing the Packers win and NOT cover. <BR/><BR/>Dan, Favre played okay, before you start proclaiming him awful again tomorrow. And, Bryant Gumbel wasn't bad either, in stunning HD no less.<BR/><BR/>I did take time out around halftime to watch Pitt-OkSt, of course....Pitt's scheduling themselves a MFer season, huh? First Wisconin and then this?!<BR/><BR/>Always fun to watch football while wrapping presents. A small solace since the Saturday network doubleheaders are apparently gone.Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166753961511072552006-12-21T21:19:00.000-05:002006-12-21T21:19:00.000-05:00Philly doesn't need to tank the season. This isn't...Philly doesn't need to tank the season. This isn't a matter of them tanking, they are that bad.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16291036839803295637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166741865163054802006-12-21T17:57:00.000-05:002006-12-21T17:57:00.000-05:00People are acting like getting the #1 pick is the ...People are acting like getting the #1 pick is the only reward possible for tanking. But, consider that losing more games makes you more likely to get <I>any</I> lower spot on the draft board, not just the #1. What if it gives them the #2 spot, while not tanking would give them the #3, or #4? Remember, we're not talking in hindsight--a higher pick is intrinsically better than a lower pick.<BR/><BR/>With that said, I don't think tanking is a bad thing, except that the team not only has to refuse to admit it to the press, they have refuse to admit it to themselves. Otherwise, you'll get this apathy that may be hard to shake next year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166736892005301482006-12-21T16:34:00.000-05:002006-12-21T16:34:00.000-05:00Allright Dan it is time to spill the beans, in the...Allright Dan it is time to spill the beans, in the spirt of the holiday season let us all know the answer to the question we have been wondering for months.<BR/><BR/>Why did you leave ESPN?CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166735300882413002006-12-21T16:08:00.000-05:002006-12-21T16:08:00.000-05:00Tanking wouldn't be as effective in the NBA as it ...Tanking wouldn't be as effective in the NBA as it would in football, as you still only have a 1-in-4 chance of landing Oden if you go 0-82.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166735236032137582006-12-21T16:07:00.000-05:002006-12-21T16:07:00.000-05:00Hey Dan, here's something to piss you off: ESPN.Co...Hey Dan, here's something to piss you off: ESPN.Com has a poll for the <A HREF="http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2708" REL="nofollow">year's best chat</A> - and your final MQ didn't even make the top ten. Are you sure there were no hard feelings in your departure from ESPN?Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166733588038657582006-12-21T15:39:00.000-05:002006-12-21T15:39:00.000-05:00This is about tanking it in the NFL, always a bad ...This is about tanking it in the NFL, always a bad idea, imo:<BR/>http://www.pro-football<BR/>-reference.com<BR/>/blog/wordpress/?p=173<BR/><BR/>And the NBA:<BR/>http://sports-law.blogspot.com<BR/>/2006/04/<BR/>throwing-games-and-nba-draft-<BR/>lottery.html<BR/><BR/>Or this that it points to:<BR/>http://theassociation.blogs.com<BR/>/the_association/2006/04/<BR/>the_tank_soluti.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166733236478340262006-12-21T15:33:00.000-05:002006-12-21T15:33:00.000-05:00The draft picks that went to Philly are from Denve...The draft picks that went to Philly are from Denver and Dallas. They'll trade higher on their own first round (sure to be lottery) pick.<BR/><BR/>But if you're blowing up the team because you built it around the guy you just traded, there are worse things than 3 darts thrown at a single draft. They were losing with AI, they might as well try something new.<BR/><BR/>They're really getting a reputation, though: wilt, Barkley and now AI traded away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166732692510215282006-12-21T15:24:00.000-05:002006-12-21T15:24:00.000-05:00Maybe the Penguins can move to CT and play at Mohe...Maybe the Penguins can move to CT and play at Mohegan Suns arena. Would love to see them bring back the Whalers.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166731666441006352006-12-21T15:07:00.000-05:002006-12-21T15:07:00.000-05:00Kansas City is trying hard to get a pro sports tea...Kansas City is trying hard to get a pro sports team to play in the new Sprint Arena opening in 2007. Supposedly we're getting the Charlotte WNBA team...what a waste of space that is.<BR/><BR/>Considering I work 3 blocks from the Sprint Arena and will basically have private parking, I'd love landing an NHL team. Hockey games are so great to watch in person.jhawkjjmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297634924511036895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166728333726578832006-12-21T14:12:00.000-05:002006-12-21T14:12:00.000-05:00Quick question:Phily got 2 #1's in this year's dra...Quick question:<BR/><BR/>Phily got 2 #1's in this year's draft drom Denver. Obviously, one is the Nuggets' own pick - where'd the other one come from?<BR/><BR/>I'm sure I could find it if I felt like looking, but I don't.<BR/><BR/>Also, <I>@ generik: <B>"But here they are this year, exceeding expectations so far, and still the city of Indianapolis doesn't give a shit about them"</B></I> <BR/><BR/>Of course the city doesn't care about them. It's Indy, and it's NFL season. You guys are far more engaged in another Colts' season that will ultimately end in a bitter defeat. <BR/><BR/>Wait a month or two - the Pacers will certainly garner more interest after the divisional round of the NFL playoffs.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166728037196044632006-12-21T14:07:00.001-05:002006-12-21T14:07:00.001-05:00My quickie comments:Tanking never works because no...My quickie comments:<BR/><BR/>Tanking never works because no drafted played is guaranteed to work out. Very few single guys can actually turn around a franchise, so skip the tank.<BR/><BR/>My guess: AI and Carmelo on the same team will be a disaster. There's only one ball.<BR/><BR/>Beware of "former" A's pitchers. Don't pay too much.<BR/><BR/>Brantley sitting for three years? Not so fast, maybe Tebow should be worried?<BR/><BR/>And since it IS Thursady, yeah, Packers, I agree.MoonHopperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03389448166287818429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166728024953713592006-12-21T14:07:00.000-05:002006-12-21T14:07:00.000-05:00I'm for tanking, but not this early (in the case o...I'm for tanking, but not this early (in the case of the Sixers). But as someone else said, the Sixers could play their hearts out for 3/4 of the season and still stink to high heaven, so whatever. I do think that as the season's winding down and everyone's looking to next year anyway, you may as well tank then, because at least then you're doing something designed to give your fanbase a little hope and something to look forward to.<BR/> <BR/>I was in Boston at school when they didn't get the Duncan pick. I don't think I've ever seen a team/city take a draft seeding harder, EVER. There's got to be some in between where your entire franchise won't crumble if you don't get the pick, but the fans can get a kick at the end of what will be a miserable season whether they tank or not.<BR/> <BR/>Of course, I'm a Knicks fan who hates Isiah and can't help but hope to watch him hand over the #1 pick and Oden to the Bulls while he keeps yammering about the greatness of Eddy Curry. What an idiot...that's the least of what he deserves.mattiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13140791869711206907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166725781959252632006-12-21T13:29:00.000-05:002006-12-21T13:29:00.000-05:00Being a Pittsburgh native, and current resident of...Being a Pittsburgh native, and current resident of Central PA, I think Pittsburgh should secede from the state of PA for the screwjob they got from the PA Gaming Board. I wonder if Ed Rendell (governor, Philly native) would vote against a casino that would help build a new Flyers/Sixers arena and prevent those teams from moving. It can't even be good business. I can tell you right now I will NEVER step foot in the casino that did get approved, and a lot of fans probably feel the same way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166725709431516932006-12-21T13:28:00.001-05:002006-12-21T13:28:00.001-05:00@ Brian in OxfordI actually thought the quicking t...@ Brian in Oxford<BR/><BR/>I actually thought the quicking this morning was about the Bears Tank and was surprised to find that it wasn't!!Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13305096508964522753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166725692502568592006-12-21T13:28:00.000-05:002006-12-21T13:28:00.000-05:00Here is a question in the depth of the NBA draft. ...Here is a question in the depth of the NBA draft. Is the depth of the Draft because there are a lot of quality college senior that will be in the draft or is it projected to be a strong draft based on who everyone thinks will enter the draft early? And if it is based on who enters the draft early could it not be that this draft will not be as strong as everyone thinks?CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166725298767718472006-12-21T13:21:00.000-05:002006-12-21T13:21:00.000-05:00I don't think it's a big deal if Oden goes back to...I don't think it's a big deal if Oden goes back to OSU for another year. Actually that might work out better for Philly, who probably won't be any good next year either. Just think if they could draft Durant or Wright this year with the potential to get Oden next year. That's the start of one dominant front court.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16291036839803295637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166724891406444522006-12-21T13:14:00.000-05:002006-12-21T13:14:00.000-05:00futurelegendisvinceyoungmaking fun of a QB who can...futurelegendisvinceyoung<BR/><BR/>making fun of a QB who can't throw, but can only run<BR/><BR/>wowJaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10912934417019865803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166724266948992402006-12-21T13:04:00.000-05:002006-12-21T13:04:00.000-05:00If Reggie and VY were at the beach together, VY wo...If Reggie and VY were at the beach together, VY would be tossing shells back into the ocean and Reggie would be asking him how he could hit the water everytime.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166723901865005532006-12-21T12:58:00.000-05:002006-12-21T12:58:00.000-05:00Nobody's made the obvious crack about the Bears no...Nobody's made the obvious crack about the Bears no longer "TANK"ing the rest of the season.<BR/><BR/>Ugh....slow sports night.Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166720516145400052006-12-21T12:01:00.000-05:002006-12-21T12:01:00.000-05:00Speaking of tanking for a draft pick. I was watch...Speaking of tanking for a draft pick. I was watching the Detroit - GB game last weekend (because fantasy football makes you do strange things). Down 10-6 with 11 minutes in the game Detroit intercepts Favre on the GB 12 yard line. The ensuing offensive series goes: Hand off to Arlen Harris for 4 yards, hand off to Harris for 0 yards, Kitna up the middle for 3 yards on a QB draw(definitely by design, not a broken play), field goal. I have never seen a team try not to score a TD in the red zone that hard.Shoebootiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13860899820282172624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166720333081557412006-12-21T11:58:00.000-05:002006-12-21T11:58:00.000-05:00The Texans didn't tank last year. They just aren'...The Texans didn't tank last year. They just aren't any good.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Being behind McCoy would be worse than being behind Tebow. UT fans take guys like McCoy and make them gods (see Applewhite, Major).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166719236187695062006-12-21T11:40:00.000-05:002006-12-21T11:40:00.000-05:00generik, like I said before, not a single person i...generik, like I said before, not a single person in Cleveland complained about what was happening. Philly has been losing for so long, they'd be glad to endure another losing season for a top draft pick that can turn the franchise around.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10912934417019865803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166719178159128462006-12-21T11:39:00.000-05:002006-12-21T11:39:00.000-05:00The bigger factor with the second scenario is mone...<I>The bigger factor with the second scenario is money - one more year in school = one more year for the NBA salary cap to rise = higher rookie salaries and signing bonuses. </I><BR/><BR/>Huh? The salary cap won't rise much... certainly not enough to cover a year of lost income, and he'll have to wait another year to be a free agent.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, it's not like tanking is a big deal. If the Sixers play their hearts out they still don't win 20 games this year.Jaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10912934417019865803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1166717866444041602006-12-21T11:17:00.000-05:002006-12-21T11:17:00.000-05:00Another good point about anking - this year's NBA ...Another good point about anking - this year's NBA draft class looks as though it will be very deep. 1997 (The Duncan Year) wasn't all that good. There was TD, Kieth VanHorn, Chauncey Billups, Tracy McGrady... and not much else.<BR/><BR/>BTW - It was almost like Rick Pitino was shellshocked from the day of the lottery until draft day. Everyone remembers the C's getting hosed and ending up with the #3 overall pick (Chauncey Billups) behind San Antonio and Philly (Van Horn), but Boston also had the #6 overall pick. Pitino managed to waste that one on the legendary Ron Mercer. T-Mac fell to #9 overall.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.com