tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116741415144969947..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Weekend Football Preview:NFL Tanking-Mania Plus CFB Bowlin'Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167598724882046792006-12-31T15:58:00.000-05:002006-12-31T15:58:00.000-05:00jo fer is wrong. Taking your reasoning to its abs...jo fer is wrong. Taking your reasoning to its absurd extreme, if every team comes into the game an underdog, and they lose, that proves nothing about the conference, just the pairings.<BR/><BR/>Conversely: <BR/>1. If teams are routinely going in a favorite, and lose, that proves something.<BR/>2. If teams are going in an underdog, and win, that proves something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167436984085072552006-12-29T19:03:00.000-05:002006-12-29T19:03:00.000-05:00I suspect the issue of tanking would be a coaching...I suspect the issue of tanking would be a coaching/front office plan; the players couldn't really be involved. There's too much pride at stake, especially for players that might not be there the next year (FAs, retirees). Someone possibly playing his/her last game wouldn't allow anyone else on their team to hurt his/her chances of winning his/her last ever game. This applies to all sports at all levels. No way anyone should tank a so-called "meaningless game."<BR/><BR/>Exception: NBA Playoff standing last year. It was the rule breaker, but that was just in regards to DEN/LAC seeding: they were both getting in. They tanked for seeding, not draft status.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167435117166784862006-12-29T18:31:00.000-05:002006-12-29T18:31:00.000-05:00of course i meant osu v. ufof course i meant osu v. ufAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167435015213468892006-12-29T18:30:00.000-05:002006-12-29T18:30:00.000-05:00it is unwise to look at the bowl games as any kind...it is unwise to look at the bowl games as any kind of valid evidence of a particular conference's strength. too many factors(layoffs, suspensions, injuries, motivation, disappointment, bowl malaise, etc.) keep the bowls from being a true test. now, if we had that 16 team playoff, with every game meaning win or go home, then we find out more about how good each conference is. the only game that matters this year is usu v. ufAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167434332459482902006-12-29T18:18:00.000-05:002006-12-29T18:18:00.000-05:00(Oh, and Boise State pulling a "2004 Utah" and sto...<I>(Oh, and Boise State pulling a "2004 Utah" and stomping Oklahoma for an unbeaten season and at least a nominally plausible claim at a share of the national title.)</I><BR/><BR/>Want a sure way to double your money, take OU and the points (last line I saw was 7.5). Unlike Utah, Boise State is playing a deserving BCS team (we all know OU should be a 1 loss team). Boise State's D-line is slower than OU's O-line and gives up an average of 30 lbs. This will probably be the biggest blowout of all the BCS games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167432917855316462006-12-29T17:55:00.000-05:002006-12-29T17:55:00.000-05:00or the draft lottery could actually BE a lottery. ...or the draft lottery could actually BE a lottery. with the winningest and the losingest teams both having an equal chance of the first pick.<BR/><BR/>OR cage matches to decide. <BR/><BR/>i think either of those would work.Sheldizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198083524704018695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167430640314553952006-12-29T17:17:00.000-05:002006-12-29T17:17:00.000-05:00Here's my not-thought-out solution, so it may havi...Here's my not-thought-out solution, so it may having gaping holes of logic in it:<BR/><BR/>Last game of the season doesn't count toward Draft standing. That way, bad coaches whose job is on the line can put their all into that game without sabotaging the team's future pick. And we can all agree that if there are no extenuating circumstances, teams want to win, so just remove those extenuating circumstances. The key here is, some people may PAY actual money for TICKETS to this last game of the season, so they deserve a real game.<BR/><BR/>I don't know any solution to the whole "team's already wrapped up HFA" situation, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167418673669264452006-12-29T13:57:00.001-05:002006-12-29T13:57:00.001-05:00We are finally getting to some good bowl games.I'm...We are finally getting to some good bowl games.<BR/><BR/>I'm hoping Stafford's evolution continues against that Va. Tech D.<BR/><BR/>THis could be one of those ugly games.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167418645204473812006-12-29T13:57:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:57:00.000-05:00You gotta play the schedule you have. The Jets ha...You gotta play the schedule you have. The Jets have only beaten one team with a winning record (The Patriots, who they split with). And the Jaguars would be in the playoffs if they beat the shitty teams they lost to. There are no polls in the NFL. It doesn't matter who you beat, just that you do beat them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167417643192258842006-12-29T13:40:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:40:00.000-05:00I think we all know who we are talking about.Yep. ...<I><BR/>I think we all know who we are talking about.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Yep. God Bless the Mediocre NFC.<BR/><BR/>However:<BR/><I><BR/>3. Didn't beat a team with a winning record all year long. Combined record of opponents they beat. 33-72 <BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Obviously that would change since they'd have to beat Chicago to be 8-8.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167417177096596412006-12-29T13:32:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:32:00.000-05:00Maybe he meant South Florida, rather then BC, beca...Maybe he meant South Florida, rather then BC, because South Florida already won a bowl game from the Big East.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167416644696906072006-12-29T13:24:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:24:00.000-05:00@jo fer:Kudos to Rutgers, but can WV, BC, and Loui...@jo fer:<BR/><I>Kudos to Rutgers, but can WV, BC, and Louisville follow suit?<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Uh, did you just move BC back into the Big East?Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167416628762033882006-12-29T13:23:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:23:00.000-05:00i'm STILL strictly anti-tank. I don't think you ca...i'm STILL strictly anti-tank. <BR/><BR/>I don't think you can be a true fan and support your team intentionally losing, no matter what the consequence. i agree that maybe its okay to rest your starters if you're headed to the playoffs and want to avoid injury, but the 11 guys on the field sure as hell better show up to play.<BR/><BR/>but that's just my opinion.Sheldizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198083524704018695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167416381702510582006-12-29T13:19:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:19:00.000-05:00Tanking in the NFL is stupid. Sure, it makes sense...Tanking in the NFL is stupid. <BR/>Sure, it makes sense in the NBA Draft because there's a limited number of players and each individual's impact is that much greater, but the NFL is the last place I'd want to tank. The #1 pick might as well be a curse. Sure, he might turn out to be the QB of the future ... when you can finally afford other players 3 or 4 years down the road.<BR/><BR/>Give me a #5 over a #1 anytime. Or a #15 over a #10.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167416322855879442006-12-29T13:18:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:18:00.000-05:00Thanks for the lookback chrth.NFL '06 picksNot too...Thanks for the lookback chrth.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://danshanoff.blogspot.com/2006/09/nfl-06-picks.html" REL="nofollow">NFL '06 picks</A><BR/><BR/>Not too bad, overall. Jacksonville #1? lol.marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167415524168104842006-12-29T13:05:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:05:00.000-05:00...plus I'd like to remind Dan of this:NFC North1.......plus I'd like to remind Dan of this:<BR/><BR/>NFC North<BR/>1. Bears<BR/>2. Vikings (WC)<BR/>3. Lions<BR/>4. PackersChristian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167415406495374862006-12-29T13:03:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:03:00.000-05:00...and everyone doubted me 3 weeks ago when I came......and everyone doubted me 3 weeks ago when I came up with the scenario(s) for the Packers to make the playoffs.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167415259764526692006-12-29T13:00:00.000-05:002006-12-29T13:00:00.000-05:00i'm shocked and appalled by the fact that i'm actu...i'm shocked and appalled by the fact that i'm actually rooting for the packers to make the playoffs.Sheldizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198083524704018695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167415133924920242006-12-29T12:58:00.001-05:002006-12-29T12:58:00.001-05:00The Giants win and they're in, unless all 9 of the...The Giants win and they're in, unless all 9 of the following also win:<BR/><BR/>Green Bay<BR/>Arizona<BR/>Detroit<BR/>Miami<BR/>Minnesota<BR/>San Francisco<BR/>New Orleans<BR/>Cleveland<BR/>Seattle<BR/><BR/>Anyone taking bets on THAT teaser?Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.com