tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116774751358559783..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Tuesday 01/02 A.M. Quickie:Boise State! Best! Ending! Ever?!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167793001112184482007-01-02T21:56:00.000-05:002007-01-02T21:56:00.000-05:00Ok, I've calmed down, and am willing to concede th...Ok, I've calmed down, and am willing to concede the <I>possibility</I> that <I>maybe</I> the ball was <I>slightly</I> coming loose, and thus they weren't able to reverse the call due to indisputable evidence.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167792649053683602007-01-02T21:50:00.000-05:002007-01-02T21:50:00.000-05:00THAT WAS BULLSHIT! How the hell did the booth thi...THAT WAS BULLSHIT! How the hell did the booth think the knee wasn't down?!?<BR/><BR/>I'm watching the rest of this game under protest.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167790679530390912007-01-02T21:17:00.000-05:002007-01-02T21:17:00.000-05:00>>he should have retired after CBS lost the rights...>>he should have retired after CBS lost the rights to the NBA.>><BR/><BR/>Ha, good one! We'll always have Kevin Nealon's great hands-to-the-eyes while saying, "On Ceeee-B-S" impersonation, too.EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167786105228512962007-01-02T20:01:00.000-05:002007-01-02T20:01:00.000-05:00>>I think Herbie looking so down has been one of m...>>I think Herbie looking so down has been one of my favorite moments of the bowl season.>><BR/><BR/>Letting Herbstreit sit at the big boy's table on ABC has apparently affected his formerly more objective self. Maybe it's me, but I think he'd do best to distance himself from Musberger's presence and influence ASAP. Then again, I'm of the belief that the world would be a lot happier if Mucasbrain was limited to ESPN-only game coverage.EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167781836532566042007-01-02T18:50:00.000-05:002007-01-02T18:50:00.000-05:00I agree with the bowl games don't give you a true ...I agree with the bowl games don't give you a true evaluation of a conference. The WAC is 3-1 and the one loss was by 1 point. Does that make them the best conference? No....the truth is bowl games are not like a regular season or even a playoff game. Teams have weeks off to prepare which means they can come out flat, or devise crazy schemes to confuse their opponents. On a week to week basis you just can't do that in conference. Which makes the fact that Oklahoma got beat on trick plays that they should have had scouted all the more sweeter.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167781695635532532007-01-02T18:48:00.000-05:002007-01-02T18:48:00.000-05:00With admitted, but at least I think objective, bia...With admitted, but at least I think objective, bias (wink), I barely put the Big 10/11 ahead of the SEC if for no other reason their teams play football the way it was occasionally meant to be played: in the freezing cold.<BR/><BR/>Yeah, great E-Ticket column, too. Just what I needed on the 20th anniversary, a reminder that my parents bought me tickets to a Ratt/Poison show that night, a time when I didn't have my priorities straight enough. Eh, if nothing else, I hooked up that night...EPorvaznikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12653412963180740901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167781665210418992007-01-02T18:47:00.000-05:002007-01-02T18:47:00.000-05:00is USC starting to get a bit of the ol' Notre Dame...is USC starting to get a bit of the ol' Notre Dame treatment?rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167781148036231722007-01-02T18:39:00.000-05:002007-01-02T18:39:00.000-05:00So did anyone see the poll on ESPN.com that asked:...So did anyone see the poll on ESPN.com that asked: "If UF beats OSU, who should be the national champion: UF, Boise St, or USC?" <I>USC?!?</I> Really?! The people at the WWL have officially lost their collective little minds.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167781041803383322007-01-02T18:37:00.000-05:002007-01-02T18:37:00.000-05:00If Boise State finishes undefeated, then they have...<I>If Boise State finishes undefeated, then they have a better body of work.</I><BR/><BR/>That is nuts. That's the kind of thinking that gives the high school kid with the 4.0 who took 15 PE classes the valedictorian over the kid with the 3.9 who took 10 AP classes.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167778675621846342007-01-02T17:57:00.000-05:002007-01-02T17:57:00.000-05:00pootie:If the general public thinks that Tennessee...pootie:<BR/><BR/>If the general public thinks that Tennessee is more than a touchdown favorite against Penn State, and PSU wins, you are saying that the perception of PSU won't change? How about Kentucky beating Clemson? <BR/><BR/>This is the thing: when a team is expected by writers, and in Vegas, to lose by, let's say seven points, and they lose by seven points, that changes nothing. But, when expectations are not met, you're a fool not to change your beliefs. Why? Because <I>those beliefs have been proven wrong</I>. There are flukes, then there are trends.<BR/><BR/>You're right to say that single games don't matter, but trends do. I think that most people, even non-homers, thought that the SEC would win not just in the upper-tier games, but down to the bottom, because of the perception that they were "deeper" than anyone else. I'll admit that I was a little worried about unranked Big Ten versus ranked SEC matchups. Well, in games that mattered--Jan. 1 games--they didn't win. If Florida wins, and you have OSU and Michigan losing, it will shake yet another conception that we have about the teams this year.<BR/><BR/>You're making statements, but not arguments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167776463772545102007-01-02T17:21:00.000-05:002007-01-02T17:21:00.000-05:00jo fer -i stand by my opinion that bowl games prov...jo fer -<BR/><BR/>i stand by my opinion that bowl games prove nothing. and if both lsu and florida win i will not all of sudden champion the sec. i believe the sec is the best conference in football based on tangible regular season games that have meaning. i think the big 10 is a close second this year. my theory that meaningless bowl games don't prove a conference's strength was first presented in this blog before the bowl games started. it has nothing to do with being a homer. now, if there was a playoff, where a big 10-sec matchup meant advance or go home, then you have something. so the title game, in my opinion, will only show the strength of the top of both conferences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167773517512070902007-01-02T16:31:00.000-05:002007-01-02T16:31:00.000-05:00I can't wait to see Dan's reaction to the AM Jump....I can't wait to see Dan's reaction to the AM Jump....I'd have to guess he's met Gallo before at some sort of WWL cocktail party.Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167772173750503842007-01-02T16:09:00.000-05:002007-01-02T16:09:00.000-05:00Not to burst your bubble, Dan, but it looks like y...Not to burst your bubble, Dan, but it looks like you've been officially replaced at ESPN.com:<BR/><BR/>http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/amjump?page=amjump/070102Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167771195265397742007-01-02T15:53:00.000-05:002007-01-02T15:53:00.000-05:00@ rukrusher:Same deal. Game ended just before 1AM...<I>@ rukrusher:</I><BR/><BR/>Same deal. Game ended just before 1AM, I lay in bed untuil about 2:30AM replaying the game in my head, wondering how the hell a "big-game" program like Oklahoma could get beaten by a play that doesn't work in High School, let alone college.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I was doing all this thinking with a huge grin on my face, because that was probably the best 25 minutes for 3 minutes worth of football that I've ever seen.<BR/><BR/>Finally fell asleep at about 3AM. Alarm clock went off at 6AM. And I wasn't even tired.<BR/><BR/>Of course, I'm dragging right now... Looks like there's an afternoon Dunkin' Donuts Coffee pit stop in my near future.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167770447696583652007-01-02T15:40:00.000-05:002007-01-02T15:40:00.000-05:00pootietang:You're right about most bowl games. No...pootietang:<BR/><BR/>You're right about most bowl games. Normally, you have two teams that are roughly equal in talent, where the spread is like a field goal or something.<BR/><BR/>BUT, when a ten point underdog wins, it's a little disingenuous to say that the underdog's victory was meaningless. When two teams get on the field, they both want to win badly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167770391988086132007-01-02T15:39:00.000-05:002007-01-02T15:39:00.000-05:00I watched that Fiesta Bowl and could not get to sl...I watched that Fiesta Bowl and could not get to sleep for another hour I was so amped about that ending. I was even composing my own column on "Why we watch sports" and why the Bowl games are still fun, the rain in Jersey kept me home watching football all day and I was ready to call it a night but I stayed to the end, wondering which of my freinds I could call without pissing off everyone's wife or wake up the kids.rukrusherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02005928545753221172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167770019449498192007-01-02T15:33:00.000-05:002007-01-02T15:33:00.000-05:00rafael hits the coach-race thing on the head perfe...rafael hits the coach-race thing on the head perfectly. It is not racist to hire the best coach for the job. It is <B>totally racist</B> not to interview and consider minority coaches. But it's not just racist; it is also favoritist, illogical, unfair, and potentially detrimental to your team.<BR/><BR/>And don't talk about quotas for the players: every player is evaluated and hired based on merit. Coaching spots are totally not evaluated this way, and that is what should change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167769753011584302007-01-02T15:29:00.000-05:002007-01-02T15:29:00.000-05:00i have said this before on a few occasions, but it...i have said this before on a few occasions, but it bears repeating today. the bowl games have NOTHING to do with how good or bad a conference really is. there are so many variables - injuries, motivation, suspensions, coaches with an eye toward "next year", disappointment, long layoff, academis problems, etc. that you just cannot zero in on how good a particular conferencr is. the only game that matters is the championship game. as great as the fiesta bowl was, as great as texas tech comeback was, etc., they are all games played in a vaccum by teams wishing they were someplace else. again, a playoff would solve these problems and also get a better indication of strength of conference. so bashing dan is convenient right now...just doesn't make much sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167768940440656622007-01-02T15:15:00.000-05:002007-01-02T15:15:00.000-05:00Michigan homer here. Michigan had a terrible star...Michigan homer here. Michigan had a terrible start, due mysteriously to their offensive line and not so mysteriously to their secondary, end of story. They're better than that, but they're not better than USC.<BR/><BR/>But as long as we're taunting others, what about the SEC-Big Ten matchups, Dan? Both Big Ten teams underdogs, both winners. SEC dominance was refuted yesterday, too. If Notre Dame beats LSU (even though it won't happen) I don't ever want to hear a peep again about the depth of the SEC (even though it won't happen).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167767201988781002007-01-02T14:46:00.000-05:002007-01-02T14:46:00.000-05:00I gotta say, Dan - I used to nail you on the Insta...I gotta say, Dan - I used to nail you on the Instant History stuff when you were still with the WWL (and I was still with Sports Media Watch) ... but I couldn't agree more with your assessment of the Fiesta Bowl. Just a stunning game to watch - and what most people aren't talking about is that it was a darn good game before the 4th quarter as well. Great open field tackling, solid defense from both teams, a few big play highlights ... that might be the most fun I've had watching two teams I don't care about.eirishishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13432110297687631589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167765921698511372007-01-02T14:25:00.000-05:002007-01-02T14:25:00.000-05:00Thanks for UCLA props, Dan!That made my day.Thanks for UCLA props, Dan!<BR/><BR/>That made my day.BobbyStompyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16344775000528270647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167765416838219022007-01-02T14:16:00.000-05:002007-01-02T14:16:00.000-05:00Of course you'll root against Saban if you want, b...Of course you'll root against Saban if you want, but it's silly.<BR/><BR/>The E-Ticket was very cool. I didn't live it, so it's very cool to read about it. That poor quarterback is hilarious. And I can't believe the Miami players find ways to embarrass themselves decades later. Does Miami even have classes? Is it strictly a diploma-by-mail type thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167764348205712972007-01-02T13:59:00.000-05:002007-01-02T13:59:00.000-05:00Here's why a playoff would suck for Boise State:Le...Here's why a playoff would suck for Boise State:<BR/><BR/>Let's say a 16-team playoff. How many people here think Boise State could beat 4 top tier schools in succession?<BR/><BR/>Now, let me modify it slightly: How many people here think Ohio State could've beaten 4 top tier schools in succession four years ago?<BR/><BR/>If Boise State or the national champ Buckeyes have to go through a playoff, they finish the season with a loss. Instead, because of the BCS, Boise State gets a crapload of money, the ability to finish their season in dramatic fashion, and the comfort of knowing they can get this kind of support:<BR/>6) Does Boise State deserve a shot at Ohio State for the national championship?<BR/>81.0% Yes, they are the only other unbeaten and showed they belong in that game<BR/>19.0% No, the BCS system worked fine and Florida is more deserving than Boise State<BR/> <BR/>With a playoff, they'd have none of that.Christian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167762986516432872007-01-02T13:36:00.000-05:002007-01-02T13:36:00.000-05:00Have you guys (and gals) seen ESPN's E-Ticket yet ...Have you guys (and gals) seen ESPN's E-Ticket yet <A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=fiesta87&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1" REL="nofollow">Link</A><BR/><BR/>Good stuffChristian Thomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16552580025935909875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167762419969819982007-01-02T13:26:00.000-05:002007-01-02T13:26:00.000-05:00"It's amazing how people can simultaneously bash a..."It's amazing how people can simultaneously bash a bad Texas Team and so openly praise that excellent Boise State team that beat a flawed Oklahoma team that a bad Texas team crushed months ago when Adrian Peterson was completely healthy. If Texas is not a quality win, then what is beating Oklahoma?"<BR/><BR/>Those "people" are ... me! I thought college was about the record and the regular season. If Boise State finishes undefeated, then they have a better body of work. Boise State won their last game, and it's not their fault that the team's name was Oklahoma instead of USC or Ohio State. They've also been a good team for about 5 years, so it's not like this one season could be a fluke.<BR/><BR/>If you're undefeated, you should be champion, and if the BCS can't get that right, then there is no real winner in college.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com