tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116792204070128062..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Thursday 01/04 A.M. Quickie:Notre Dame Even Worse Than You ThoughtUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger92125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1168008348641342642007-01-05T09:45:00.000-05:002007-01-05T09:45:00.000-05:00New Whitlock on AOL:http://sports.aol.com/whitlock...New Whitlock on AOL:<BR/>http://sports.aol.com/whitlock/<BR/>nfl/_a/lets-face-it-entire-<BR/>league-should-shun/<BR/>20061228103009990001<BR/><BR/>By the way, if you think that link is a pain, try finding his commentary by visiting aol.com first. It shouldn't be this hard!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1168005509613006502007-01-05T08:58:00.000-05:002007-01-05T08:58:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1168005469071095712007-01-05T08:57:00.000-05:002007-01-05T08:57:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1168005345352301852007-01-05T08:55:00.000-05:002007-01-05T08:55:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1168003991694579532007-01-05T08:33:00.000-05:002007-01-05T08:33:00.000-05:00good point b_washington, but if they had taken Vic...good point b_washington, but if they had taken Vick, they obviously wouldn't have had a need for Brees. Therefore, by trading away the right to take Vick #1 and instead grabbing LdT, they also ensured than with their next pick, they would still need a QB i.e. Drew Brees.<BR/><BR/>It's kind of roundabout thinking, but no one ever accused me of being a great thinker.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167961082512492762007-01-04T20:38:00.000-05:002007-01-04T20:38:00.000-05:00Whoops, obviously they got the #5 pick and took LT...Whoops, obviously they got the #5 pick and took LT as wellAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167961014371534862007-01-04T20:36:00.000-05:002007-01-04T20:36:00.000-05:00Not quite true Bid D.. They traded the #1 Pick (M....Not quite true Bid D.. They traded the #1 Pick (M. Vick) and got in return a #3 pick (CB-Tay Cody Fl. State) a #2 pick in 2002 (Reche Caldwell) and Tim Dwight. They took Brees with their own second round pick in 2001.<BR/><BR/>Either way it worked out much better for the ChargersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167960724868248442007-01-04T20:32:00.000-05:002007-01-04T20:32:00.000-05:00I thought LdT's size was an issue too?one of those...I thought LdT's size was an issue too?<BR/>one of those lame "can he handle the rigors of the NFL" reasons for marking him down.<BR/><BR/>I'd prefer Grimm for my Steelers.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167960338547257902007-01-04T20:25:00.000-05:002007-01-04T20:25:00.000-05:00@ futurelegendvinceyoung:Just imagine if the Cards...<I>@ futurelegendvinceyoung:</I><BR/><BR/>Just imagine if the Cards had grabbed LdtT over Davis... Obviously, Vick was going to Atlanta (hell, they basically traded the top 2 2006 MVP finalists for him), and Cleveland was destined to blow their draft choice.<BR/><BR/>What's even more impressive... of the top five teams in that draft, three have won their division at least once since - the other two have combined for exactly one season of more than six wins (Cleveland - 9-7 in 2002).<BR/><BR/>Talk about parity...<BR/><BR/><BR/>P.S. Bill Cowher Resigns... Whizzenhunt or Whipple in '07?Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167960028953351642007-01-04T20:20:00.000-05:002007-01-04T20:20:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167957383139115012007-01-04T19:36:00.000-05:002007-01-04T19:36:00.000-05:00damn... oh wellthe rest is1999/11/20/tomlinson_rec...damn... oh well<BR/><BR/>the rest is<BR/><BR/><BR/>1999/11/20/tomlinson_record_ap/nep1293https://www.blogger.com/profile/12375055890377383689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167957299020340812007-01-04T19:34:00.001-05:002007-01-04T19:34:00.001-05:00hmm, link didn't show uphttp://sportsillustrated.c...hmm, link didn't show up<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/news/1999/11/20/tomlinson_record_ap/nep1293https://www.blogger.com/profile/12375055890377383689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167957249266092102007-01-04T19:34:00.000-05:002007-01-04T19:34:00.000-05:00I'm pretty sure the only concern with Tomlinson wa...I'm pretty sure the only concern with Tomlinson was the TCU thing. <BR/><BR/>I remember seeing this game years ago and was convinced LT would be awesome.<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/college/news/1999/11/20/tomlinson_record_ap/<BR/><BR/>seriously...406 yards???? That's playstation or xbox not real life.nep1293https://www.blogger.com/profile/12375055890377383689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167956519372310072007-01-04T19:21:00.000-05:002007-01-04T19:21:00.000-05:00Can we please stop saying...Team A beat Team B. Te...Can we please stop saying...<BR/><B>Team A beat Team B. Team B beat Team C. Therefore Team A will beat Team C.</B><BR/><BR/>This is not math, and therefore not an accurate indicator of whose best. By this logic Notre Dame is better than USC because Notre Dame beat UCLA and USC lost to them. We all saw that USC is better than Notre Dame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167955604153427072007-01-04T19:06:00.000-05:002007-01-04T19:06:00.000-05:00This was a phenomenal day of Comments, everyone. I...This was a phenomenal day of Comments, everyone. I appreciate this extension of the conversation more than you know. I enjoyed every single one. What I like most is that we can disagree, but you've gotta bring your sound reasoning to back it up. I'm sorry I only posted once today, but I'll try to make up for it tomorrow. -- DanDan Shanoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126386161198401693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167952949558988042007-01-04T18:22:00.000-05:002007-01-04T18:22:00.000-05:00How can you say that Weis stands no chance of winn...How can you say that Weis stands no chance of winning a title at Notre Dame? He hasn't even had his recruits come in yet. He went in there with Willingham's players and did what Ty could only do one year, and that is win. In a few years Notre Dame will be competing once again. Everybody just wants an excuse to hate on them.d_helms32https://www.blogger.com/profile/03635955103570882831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167948622748689132007-01-04T17:10:00.000-05:002007-01-04T17:10:00.000-05:00RANDY JOHNSON TO D'BACKS<B>RANDY JOHNSON TO D'BACKS</B>GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167948385729941102007-01-04T17:06:00.000-05:002007-01-04T17:06:00.000-05:00Yes, USC whooped OU and BSU needed overtime to bea...Yes, USC whooped OU and BSU needed overtime to beat OU, but they were different OUs. <BR/><BR/>USC >> OreU.<BR/>BSU > OklU > OreU.<BR/>But OreU+Refs > OklU.<BR/>Also,<BR/>BSU > OSU<BR/>OSU > OreU.<BR/><BR/>Beavers are better than Ducks, but what about Platypi?amrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12883935309681305078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167947809668749262007-01-04T16:56:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:56:00.000-05:00OK, this Robert Smith guy is exactly right. This ...OK, this Robert Smith guy is exactly right. This Notre Dame team, from a talent standpoint, had "Gator Bowl" written all over it. And that's not necessarily a bad thing. I attended a Gator Bowl a few years ago where ND was barely competitive--at least this team is better then that. But yes, their branding puts them in better games than their talent would have them earn, and so they'll keep losing until: (1) that ND mystique goes away or (2) until they actually get National Championship caliber again. <BR/><BR/>In other words--it'll be a long time before ND wins another bowl in anything other than a big upset.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167947696550430992007-01-04T16:54:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:54:00.000-05:00whocares,If UAB could get a coach that won ballgam...whocares,<BR/><BR/>If UAB could get a coach that won ballgames, then the community would support it (ie come to the games). Everybody loves a winner. Hell, Troy is getting more attendance located in the boonies than UAB gets in B'ham because they win ballgames. <BR/><BR/>The 'fiscal concerns' were bogus as Jimbo Fisher's contract with the booster pledges was going to cost the University system less money out of pocket than the coach they hired.<BR/><BR/>The comment on who generates money back to the school's budget underscores the problem with representation on the board of trustees. I think most public schools are non-profit organizations.<BR/><BR/>Most of my rant is ripped from content in Kevin Scarbinsky's articles in The Birmingham News following the coaching search fiasco.<BR/><BR/>http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/kscarbinsky.ssfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167947020698759612007-01-04T16:43:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:43:00.000-05:00Wow, what a scandal on those baseballs. I think t...Wow, what a scandal on those baseballs. I think this could be bigger than steroids, because it comes from the top if it's true.<BR/><BR/>ND will never join a conference until they lose that NBC contract AND start being ranked appropriately. Why? Not less money--fewer BCS games (ok, and less money). They'd never make the BCS cut in a normal conference. ND fans can argue that they are at times underrated by us fans, but they are totally overrated by the people in power.<BR/><BR/>Brady Quinn can't be picked first. Seriously--can anyone picture him in a Raiders uniform? I can picture him losing twelve games in a Lions uniform, though.<BR/><BR/>Re: Mike Tice. Sounds like reality show time!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167946890604938252007-01-04T16:41:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:41:00.000-05:00ken in starkvegas,I currently live in Birmingham, ...ken in starkvegas,<BR/><BR/>I currently live in Birmingham, and am an Auburn fan/grad, so please do not mistkae what I say for agreeing with Alabama shelling out that kind of money for a football coach. But there are several points in your post that are way off base.<BR/><BR/>First of all, yes, UAB and UAT are both run by the same Board of Trustees, but that has little bearing on the hiring practices of both. UAB must show fiscal responsibility when hiring a coach because it is a program that has been hemoraging money for the last several years. They are averaging around 15K per game in attendance and dont have the means to waste serious money on a coach. Alabama packs out a 90K seat stadium for 8 home games a year so they can afford the $4 mil for $aban. <BR/><BR/>Also, the UAB Hospital System is a not-for-profit organization therefore the monies that they generate must be put back into research and facilities for the hospitals, not to paying coaches at UAT- or UAB for that matter.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>www.sonsofkc.blogspot.comwhocareshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15316744759269727283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167946700957254902007-01-04T16:38:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:38:00.000-05:00Four points in return:1) Brady Quinn is not so muc...Four points in return:<BR/><BR/>1) Brady Quinn is not so much overrated as imprecisely rated. He makes good throwing decisions (rarely does he throw to the wrong receiver), but his passes aren't the most accurate. Also, it's difficult to gauge what he would look like with a real offensive line, since Notre Dame's is terrible. Overall, I'd put him behind Brennan, Russell, and even Smith as NFL prospects. But that doesn't mean he's awful. <BR/><BR/>2) The BCS is designed to create interesting (and profitable) matchups. Notre Dame meets both criteria. Until there is a playoff, ND will get invited anytime they qualify because bowls make money off of them. And who can blame them? Anyone who saw the empty seats at the Orange Bowl understands the bowl organizers' point of view. Let's all move on.<BR/><BR/>3) For good reading on how Weis is doing pretty darn well with the talent left in the well, do some reading at the Blue Gray Sky. Suffice it to say, Willingham's recruiting didn't exactly leave the cupboards full, especially at both lines and in the secondary. Which is why ND's six losses over the last two years have come when teams have burned us deep on offense and blitzed consistently on defense. You can only work with what you have. Thus, I don't think we can really evaluate whether or not Weis can win the big one at ND until we see his recruits play. For now, we know he can at least get to 9-10 wins with someone else's players.<BR/><BR/>4) Considering that it lost to, arguably, three of the top five teams of the country ... let's not all go pissing out pants about how terrible ND is. Remember that they beat ACC runner-up GT on the road (who oft-praised West Virginia could only beat by a field goal on a neutral field), and pounded underrated Penn State at home. They will fall to around #15 ... and you know what, that's probably about right.eirishishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13432110297687631589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167946543252865252007-01-04T16:35:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:35:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.eirishishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13432110297687631589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1167946046969417822007-01-04T16:27:00.000-05:002007-01-04T16:27:00.000-05:00What the hell is wrong with you, Dan? You keep br...What the hell is wrong with you, Dan? You keep bringing up the "Oregon State Factor" to explain why Boise should be ranked ahead of USC...but they had another common opponent, Oklahoma. USC easily beat the Sooners, but Boise had to go to OT. So common opponents really can't determine which team is better.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01764597535956025803noreply@blogger.com