tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post116921566400281563..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Friday 01/19 A.M. Quickie:All NFL Conf. Champs, All DayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169242481682523452007-01-19T16:34:00.000-05:002007-01-19T16:34:00.000-05:00The comparison between the 90's Yankees and the Pa...The comparison between the 90's Yankees and the Patriots are about the team, not just fans.<BR/><BR/>There are only a few stars carried over year to year, Jeter/Brady, Rivera/Vinatieri and Torre/Belicheck. That comparison right there is downright spooky.<BR/><BR/>They both have a boring team-first, corporate philosophy without any flashy players.<BR/><BR/>They don't put up big offensive numbers, they're just shrewd and make fewer mistakes.<BR/><BR/>The Yankees actually did manage their money well in the 90s.<BR/><BR/>Their fans expect players to come through in the clutch.<BR/><BR/>It's not so much that we're "already" bored with the Patriots. The Patriots are boring. Casual fans want to see teams like the Colts or Saints win, big fireworks and some star power. The Patriots don't have that. They don't try to break records and they don't win every game in the regular season. <BR/><BR/>Their fans don't care, but the NFL should. Parity is a myth (Brady trumps all) and there are a lot of superstars sitting at home every January.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169239979659150482007-01-19T15:52:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:52:00.000-05:00TroyBeauty and Geeks is hilarious. Just the fact t...Troy<BR/><BR/>Beauty and Geeks is hilarious. Just the fact that those bimbos are having to answer questions like "what type of advertising is a billboard call?" and the fact that they are starting to fight over the geeks. Priceless man, priceless.Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311561721262804113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169239427576915962007-01-19T15:43:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:43:00.000-05:00Scheme all you want, but those Aikman/Emmitt/Irvin...Scheme all you want, but those Aikman/Emmitt/Irvin Cowboy teams would have still won. And I *HATE* the Cowboys. That offensive line would make an average back into a stud, and Emmitt was much better than average. <BR/><BR/>The same argument that the Patriots are better because they keep their team together also works against Bill B. here too. He is scheming against a league that cannot consistently keep their teams together. His schemes in NY were also with a team that was loaded with talent on defense. So he stopped the Niners with that Giants defense, but if we replace those players with the Patriots defense, would we get the same result? I don't know about that. It's a fun debate though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169239152594728822007-01-19T15:39:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:39:00.000-05:00Seriously, you think that if the Saints don't make...<I>Seriously, you think that if the Saints don't make it, we won't have two whole weeks of stories about the Bears?! About Grossman overcoming the odds and Lovie Smith being a great guy?</I><BR/><BR/>Forgetting for the moment that the Bears in the Super Bowl would mean the greatest 2 weeks of Kissing Suzy Kolber ever, the coverage given to the Bears would not be half as nauseating as the coverage about the Saints would be. I'd rather have Sexy Rexy getting overhyped than reading about how the Saints have fixed New Orleans. No doubt the Saints making the Super Bowl would be a fantastic story. I just wish that story would get told, instead of the one the media would beat us with for 14 solid days.<BR/><BR/>And in the AFC, if you hate a Yankees/Lakers-type dominant stretch, no matter who and no matter what sport, then you would obviouly root for the Colts to win. Just because the media coverage will be way over the top doesnt mean that some stories will be easier to stomach over the course of two weeks.<BR/><BR/>And don't give me the "dont watch" speech. What the hell else am I supposed to watch on TV? Beauty and the Geek? American Idol?TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169239047473509092007-01-19T15:37:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:37:00.000-05:00Hey Dave "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere"Hey Dave "It's Five O'Clock Somewhere"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169238550961420372007-01-19T15:29:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:29:00.000-05:00Now you'd have to balance the "the Pats aren't obv...Now you'd have to balance the "the Pats aren't obviously dominant" argument against them,<BR/><BR/>against the "Players today are bigger, faster, stronger than 20 years ago" argument.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if the Pats are all-time great....but you'd have to think Belichick could scheme for Montana and the west-coast....or the Hogs....or the Bears. He actually did with the Giants and came out on top a couple of years.Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169237937383995222007-01-19T15:18:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:18:00.000-05:00If the Pats win, they for sure are on the greatest...If the Pats win, they for sure are on the greatest run in history. Hell, I would put them 1 or 1A as it is now. I still don't think they are among the greatest teams ever though. I think the 80's 49ers, 90's Cowboys, or even the Broncos or Packer Super Bowl winning teams in the 90's would beat them handily. <BR/><BR/>No argument about the run they are on now though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169237531659782452007-01-19T15:12:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:12:00.000-05:00Wow, What a week of commenting? I think this is th...Wow, What a week of commenting? I think this is the first time in the history of this blog we have had 100+ post for everyday this week on the main AM quickie postAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236870724464642007-01-19T15:01:00.000-05:002007-01-19T15:01:00.000-05:00For the Person who said Brady was not that good at...For the Person who said Brady was not that good at Michigan you need to check your facts,<BR/><BR/><BR/>Brady started every game in the 1998 and 1999 seasons. <BR/><BR/>He was All-Big Ten both seasons. <BR/><BR/>The Wolverines won 20 of 25 games when Brady started <BR/><BR/>Shared the Big Ten Conference title in 1998. <BR/><BR/>Brady capped that season off with a win over Arkansas in the Citrus Bowl. <BR/><BR/>In the 1999 season, Brady led Michigan to an overtime win in the Orange Bowl over Alabama, throwing for 369 yards and four touchdowns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236757325172812007-01-19T14:59:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:59:00.000-05:00Brady is a winner and a team player bottom line, e...Brady is a winner and a team player bottom line, extremely competitive and will take hits or risks like juking Urlacher for the 1st down in the Bears game to give his team a chance to win. <BR/> He is mentally prepared for the game and does not let the game situation affect his game. If he makes a bad play or the Pats are losing or lose he focuses on the next play or game. Peyton sits on the bench with his head down if he screws up, Brady stays positive and plays well under pressure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236724457094362007-01-19T14:58:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:58:00.000-05:00someone on WEEI mentioned Ricky Proehl on the Colt...someone on WEEI mentioned Ricky Proehl on the Colts....<BR/><BR/>I forgot about that. Proehl had the very late game-tying TDs for the Rams and Panthers. He must wanna KILL Vinatieri, no?Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236546089706352007-01-19T14:55:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:55:00.000-05:00Steelers did their first 4 in 6 years...9 and 1013...Steelers did their first 4 in 6 years...<BR/>9 and 10<BR/>13 and 14<BR/><BR/>But this would be a new twist, 3 in 4 and then the 4th so soon.<BR/><BR/>SF did 16,19,23,24,29. I think they ducked the Bills on purpose :)Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236491944075152007-01-19T14:54:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:54:00.000-05:00SI.COM Experts5 out of 7 pick the colts5 out of 7 ...SI.COM Experts<BR/>5 out of 7 pick the colts<BR/>5 out of 7 pick the SaintsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236354625668342007-01-19T14:52:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:52:00.000-05:00CBS.sportline.com expert 5 out of 6 picks the Colt...CBS.sportline.com expert 5 out of 6 picks the Colts, 4 out of 6 picked the BearsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236285645054312007-01-19T14:51:00.001-05:002007-01-19T14:51:00.001-05:00The ESPN experts have weighed in and every single ...The ESPN experts have weighed in and every single on them picked the Saints to Win and everyone except Allen and Theismann picked the Colts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236263722459332007-01-19T14:51:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:51:00.000-05:00Simmons article about the Pats being the Yankees w...Simmons article about the Pats being the Yankees was exactly what I was talking about the other day in here. People hate the good teams. <BR/><BR/>Tell me all of you who weren't cowboys fans in the 90's didn't hate every cowboys fan. Same thing with the niner fans in the 80s. <BR/><BR/>It's like cliques in high school. Every kid hated the popular kids unless they were the popular kids. It's the same way in sports fanaticism. <BR/><BR/>At the same time as much as I hated the niners and cowboys I respected their teams for how great they were (even with Dion, the pipemaker and Leon Lett).<BR/><BR/>I'm not a Pats fan, but to accomplish what they have done in this decade is pretty impressive, regardless of the worn out stories in the media.Drakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14311561721262804113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236160932940912007-01-19T14:49:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:49:00.000-05:00Chadd when the NFL really talks about the MArquee ...Chadd when the NFL really talks about the MArquee franchises they really speak about consistent winner and Super Bowl Champions. Not just fan base.<BR/><BR/>Marquee NFC Franchises:<BR/>1. Dallas<BR/>2. San Francisco<BR/>3. New York<BR/>4. Green Bay<BR/>5. Washington<BR/>6. ChicagoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169236075201221202007-01-19T14:47:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:47:00.000-05:00ok...pats until they are finally beaten... (maybe ...ok...<BR/><BR/>pats until they are finally beaten... (maybe except if the face the bears again)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169235851715439772007-01-19T14:44:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:44:00.000-05:00There is no way any of those teams from the NFC ha...There is no way any of those teams from the NFC have a larger fan following than the Bears, given Chicago's size, media reach, and the fact that Chicagoans (and denizens of the surrounding suburbs) identify themselves as Chicagoans for a much longer period of time than those of other cities after leaving Chicago. (Marrioti even mentioned it this morning - even if he is an idiot - that Chicago has the largest number of citizens who grow up in Chicago and stay here for all their lives than any other city in America, contributing to the hold the 1985 Bears still have on this city).<BR/><BR/>NFC "Marquee" Franchises in Order:<BR/>1. Chicago<BR/>2. Dallas (as much as I hate them)<BR/>3. Washington<BR/>4. Green Bay<BR/>5. NY Giants (support cut due to Jets)<BR/>6. San FranciscoChaddogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381349910580062539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169235828489680942007-01-19T14:43:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:43:00.000-05:00If the Patriots win the Super Bowl this you would ...If the Patriots win the Super Bowl this you would have to put them among the Greatest Teams Ever or at least acknowledge that this is the greatest run by a team in the history of the NFL. No Team has ever won 4 Super Bowls in 6 Years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169235504738339342007-01-19T14:38:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:38:00.000-05:00Looks like I'm getting a little ripping here and t...Looks like I'm getting a little ripping here and there from my Tom Brady/Tony Eason comparison. I advise you to look up the word "sarcasm" in the dictionary. Comprehension can be your friend.Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169234258656870512007-01-19T14:17:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:17:00.000-05:00I think Brady is underrated by fans outside of New...I think Brady is underrated by fans outside of New England. those of us that see him every week get more insight as to the little things that he does so well. I agree that he hardly ever throws the deep ball, but you have to acknowledge the lack of downfield threats as a factor in that too.<BR/><BR/>The thing that has always impressed me about Brady over Manning is his composure in the pocket under pressure. You'll never confuse Tom with Mike Vick, but he just has a knowledge of how to avoidf pressure in the pocket and get off a good ball (most of the time). Manning uo until this year has never done that. When it is all said and done though, BOTH of these great QBs will be in the conversation as among the greatest ever to play. I don't agrre that Manning is the best to ever play, no matter how many ring he does or doesn't end up with. Brady neither. That debate is between Montana and Elway and no one else.<BR/><BR/>As far as this weekend, I'm a huge Pats fan, so I'd obviously love to see them win. But I can't pick them to. Nor can I pick the Colts. There are too many x-factors to this game. Will Manning have another poor outing? Will either defense step up? I don't think the Colts D has played nearly as well as people are giving them credit for, but they have played better than they had in the regular season.<BR/><BR/>So basically I'm rooting for the Pats, but can't pick either way...Aitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08465798018639732646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169233577198892652007-01-19T14:06:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:06:00.000-05:00I never mentioned the 60's or 70's teams. The onl...I never mentioned the 60's or 70's teams. <BR/><BR/>The only thing "harder" about this era is keeping your good team together, which as I have said repeatedly, the Pats do better than anyone. When you judge them with their peers, the Pats are by far the best team out there. You think this puts them among the all-time greats by default, and I obviously do not. <BR/><BR/>Just keep in mind that before free agency, it was harder to build a championship team and easier to keep it together. Now, it is easier to build one and harder to keep it together. I would say that is an argument that it is easier to win these days, as everyone is muddled around .500 and a team can go from shitty to good to shitty in 3 consecutive seasons. The Patriots greatness is that they have maintained their quality (relative to the league) in this era.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169233461829408562007-01-19T14:04:00.000-05:002007-01-19T14:04:00.000-05:00Yo TimYour a douche bag.“They play in a division t...Yo Tim<BR/><BR/>Your a douche bag.<BR/><BR/>“They play in a division that is one of the worst in the NFL so in my mind they get 6 cupcake games a year”<BR/><BR/>AFC east had the most combined wins in the AFC this year. They also lead the AFC in Points against by over 100 total so I would not call those games cupcakes.<BR/><BR/><BR/>You guys can not praise the Pats and say they have a great team and a great system and then try knock them down a couple pegs. Its weak.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Why is the guy who dances like an idiot and does steriods get praised but the player who does everything right come off as an asshole?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-1169232513088978072007-01-19T13:48:00.000-05:002007-01-19T13:48:00.000-05:00Wowtalk about taking off the blinders huh?"The Pat...Wow<BR/>talk about taking off the blinders huh?<BR/><BR/>"The Patriots are a great team in this era. Their fans should be relishing it. But being great in this era isn't enough to put them among the all-time great teams, even if they win a few more Super Bowls. From my experience, they seem to get all the breaks and because of the era we are in, they get slurped up higher than they should be. No denying they are a great team, but people keep touting them among the best ever, and I just do not see it. "<BR/><BR/>Did the 60's Packers have free agency and this many teams? Did the 70's Steelers have it either? This Era is so much harder then the past.<BR/><BR/>Don't be a moron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com