tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post2275876154940192876..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Wednesday 05/16 A.M. Quickie:Suspensions a GOOD Thing for NBA?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44890241551269272672007-05-17T02:03:00.000-04:002007-05-17T02:03:00.000-04:00Ok, Ok. For those that say we need to follow to th...Ok, Ok. For those that say we need to follow to the letter of the rule. Go ahead and suspend the entire Sun team. Give the series to Spurs. I think we are missing the point - at the end of the day we now know that Spurs is a lesser team. They know they cannot win unless they resolve to this. Ok. Ok. The Sun players are stupid for they took the bait. But Spurs will remain forever the DIRTY team! They are not good enough!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06130333531826471091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-35820013847951558522007-05-16T21:44:00.000-04:002007-05-16T21:44:00.000-04:00Well, as everything is beaten to death..One additi...Well, as everything is beaten to death..<BR/>One addition:<BR/>Bagwell AND Biggio were (for a brief time) also mentioned as "suspicious" characters that might have used 'roids. This was likely due more to the Caminiti thing. Guilt by association (well, suspicion by association) but it faded away very quickly.<BR/>Just so folk know Dan isn't making it up...it is a bit outdated (years), far as I know, though.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-73587454039790673972007-05-16T21:05:00.000-04:002007-05-16T21:05:00.000-04:00Dan, you should put your jealousy of Bill Simmons ...Dan, you should put your jealousy of Bill Simmons aside for a second and read his <A HREF="http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070516&sportCat=nba" REL="nofollow"> article </A> on the Suns/Spurs debacle. I think it's one of his best pieces in years.Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-72639685389854126612007-05-16T16:55:00.000-04:002007-05-16T16:55:00.000-04:00Hey Dan, looks like Patterson passed on your alma ...Hey Dan, looks like Patterson passed on your alma mater, I mean the school you have not connection to other than your wife, and chose Kentucky.pv845https://www.blogger.com/profile/05318367429970619320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-14736596961606118682007-05-16T16:17:00.000-04:002007-05-16T16:17:00.000-04:00From TSN: "Anaheim Ducks defenceman Chris Pronger ...From TSN: "Anaheim Ducks defenceman Chris Pronger has been suspended for one game by the National Hockey League."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14386429980444606846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-39140959055114430122007-05-16T13:58:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:58:00.000-04:00@ndyanksfanThe rule was put in place for one reaso...@ndyanksfan<BR/><BR/>The rule was put in place for one reason: What good can come from anyone coming off the bench? You say they need to defend their player. How? They can yell all they want, but the only way to retaliate is to hit him and that is a suspension. What could Amare done that would have made the situation better? There's nothing! He can't help that situation at all. No good comes from a player coming off the bench to get involoved in a fight. Don't you remember why the rule was put in place after all the Knicks/Heat series a few years ago? It was because players were coming off the bench instigating and escalating fights. The fewer people involved in this stuff, the quicker it becomes defused.<BR/><BR/>Everyone in the NBA knows this and in the end its the Suns who are idiots for coming off the bench.B. Viddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12692359981469783500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-6868722291213199962007-05-16T13:41:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:41:00.000-04:00Did anyone else just hear Dan patrick and David St...Did anyone else just hear Dan patrick and David Stern going at it over the radio? They both sounded like they were getting pissed at each other. It was pretty interesting Radio.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-55853646703659145192007-05-16T13:33:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:33:00.000-04:00Why do they constantly refer to it as "The Bench" ...Why do they constantly refer to it as "The Bench" still? There hasn't been a bench in years. They have comfortable cushioned seats that don't actually need warmed? I think the rule needs updated.Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00717708280637709412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-21292009912819816922007-05-16T13:30:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:30:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.verbal97https://www.blogger.com/profile/02282148454169067288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-28488107910190101822007-05-16T13:23:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:23:00.000-04:00ftrain: yep. Look at the last few champs, zero fo...ftrain: yep. Look at the last few champs, zero foreign players. Well, except for guys like Parker and Ginobili, but I'm sure they are the ONLY ones.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-979366450915088152007-05-16T13:21:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:21:00.000-04:00For everyone boo-hooing about this travesty, quit ...For everyone boo-hooing about this travesty, quit whining. The whole situation is a mess. <BR/>First, the league obviously wanted to get rid of its fighting image and instituted the rule. DON'T LEAVE THE BENCH. The whole Duncan and Bowen thing is a joke. So they stepped on the court. It was not a fight. It was not an altercation.<BR/>Second, as I said before, the NBA has become a bunch of finesse playing babies. Basketball is a contact sport. Look at the last three MVPs, no championships. I love Nash and Dirk, but they are not tough physical basketball players. Horry had a flagrant foul that deserved an ejection and a fine. He did not at the point of tht foul hit Nash that hard. Nash is 6'3" and 195 lbs. Horry is 6'10" and 240 lbs. That is a huge size difference. Nash was flying down the court and they hit. Have you ever seen a side impact crash of a car? The cars don't need to be going that fast to have one hell of a collision and have it look terrible.<BR/>Third, Nash easily could have been ejected of fined as well if you look at his action after the collision. He jumped up and started off towards Horry. Nash is a classy player and I am sure he was pissed as hell, but it is still moving towards fighting. <BR/>The whole thing is a PR nightmare, but it is blown out of proportion. According to the rule which has been quoted over and over, Diaw and Amare had to be suspended. Horry did as well. Is it fair? Hell no, but it is the rule. If the NBA wants to change the rule go for it, but it hasn't as of yet.<BR/><BR/>The game of basketball is physical and the Suns are finding that out as are the Spurs. Contact is inevitable, but other than Horry's elbow, the rest is hard playing, tough luck, and things taken out of context.pv845https://www.blogger.com/profile/05318367429970619320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-46157665580576011092007-05-16T13:13:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:13:00.000-04:00Let's face facts. The US was the only basketball p...Let's face facts. The US was the only basketball power for years. Based upon international play such as the World Championship and Olympics and looking at foreign players in the NBA and college, the rest of the world has caught up and passed us in many ways. There is far more to basketball than being athletic and jumping high in the air and doing a reverse slam. At all teh basic skills, i.e., passing and shooting, US players are inferior to the top foreign players. <BR/><BR/>It is interesting that as Americans succeed more in Soccer and Cycling which are traditional European sports, we get worse in our traditional sports.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-12943953786565020032007-05-16T13:10:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:10:00.000-04:00Wow, as of today, Travis Hafner has 34H, 34BB, and...Wow, as of today, Travis Hafner has 34H, 34BB, and 34K.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-62632071196386013222007-05-16T13:09:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:09:00.000-04:00@ChippDoes this mean foreign players don't have th...@Chipp<BR/><BR/>Does this mean foreign players don't have the mettle to win a NBA championship in the nba?<BR/><BR/>hmm i wonder...Ftrainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11136143693025542474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-7089150253860996132007-05-16T13:08:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:08:00.000-04:00jhawkjim,I agree with you assessment of the NBA an...jhawkjim,<BR/>I agree with you assessment of the NBA and officiating. I truly believe the game of basketball the way it is played in the NBA is truly flawed. There is no legitimate way of playing defense. Unless a defensive player can anticipate where the offensive player will be and establish his position, there is no way the charge gets called. Players like Wade and Bryant will drive right into the defense, head down, knock a guy over while throwing the ball in the air and it will always be called a block. That is just stupid. The rules simply need to be changed to allow people to play defense. <BR/><BR/>The calls are so frequent and so subjective that the entire flow of almost any game is determined by the refs. Many people think the NBA refs are by far the worst of any sport. I think it is less about competence and more about changing and clarifying the rules. Watching people shoot foul shots is boring.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-76182618037049539932007-05-16T13:01:00.000-04:002007-05-16T13:01:00.000-04:00Ftrain: good point. Although I'm still left with ...Ftrain: good point. Although I'm still left with the last 3 MVPs not being US. However, none of those won the Title that year (as Duncan did '03, Shaq '00).chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-75873656848415369932007-05-16T12:58:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:58:00.000-04:00Sorry meant to include this line:"Tom Zupancic, th...Sorry meant to include this line:<BR/><BR/>"Tom Zupancic, the Colts vice president for sales and marketing, said the team was adhering to a policy issued by the league last year. NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy said the league prohibits cross-promotion between sports."<BR/><BR/><BR/>looks like its the NFL, not the Colts who is stopping it.Allen Wedgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12511193372395131930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-5032286156158505452007-05-16T12:56:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:56:00.000-04:00From the Indy 500/ Colts article:INDIANAPOLIS -- T...From the Indy 500/ Colts article:<BR/><BR/>INDIANAPOLIS -- The Colts have no problem with Peyton Manning starting the Indianapolis 500. They just don't want a Colts car running in the May 27 race.<BR/><BR/>Paul Diatlovich, the primary owner of PDM Racing, said he had asked permission to paint Jimmy Kite's No. 18 car in the Colts team colors -- dark blue and white -- with a message on the car's sidepod that read simply "Go Colts."<BR/><BR/>Indianapolis officials nixed it because of sponsorship concerns.<BR/><BR/>"I'm extremely upset with the narrow-minded, pinheaded leadership of the Colts team and the NFL," said Diatlovich, who lives in the city. "It's inexcusable. All we're trying to do is say thank you."Allen Wedgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12511193372395131930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-13141274330359957642007-05-16T12:54:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:54:00.000-04:00"It's a nice reminder that the outrage standard fo..."It's a nice reminder that the outrage standard for cheating in, say, auto racing (and – cough – the NFL) is so much higher than in baseball. Imagine the brouhaha if the greatest player in baseball was busted for (or even simply accused of) cheating. Oh, wait..."<BR/><BR/>What? If they seriously wanted to stop people from cheating they would exclude the cheater from the next race. They suspend the crew chief and impose some nominal fine - big deal. <BR/><BR/>Also the NFL does so little testing and doesn't hold the team accountable at all. I consider the NFL drug policy little more than hand waving. Any NFL player should dope and shoot up as much as possible until they get caught at least once.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-38601632413769601862007-05-16T12:42:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:42:00.000-04:00@ chippUS Virgin Islands (Tim Duncan) is an US ter...@ chipp<BR/><BR/>US Virgin Islands (Tim Duncan) is an US terrority and its populous are US citizens.<BR/><BR/>Just sayin'Ftrainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11136143693025542474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-58787272703671009972007-05-16T12:41:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:41:00.000-04:00Tim Duncan video:http://warriors.aolsportsblog.com...Tim Duncan video:<BR/><BR/>http://warriors.aolsportsblog.com/2007/05/15/tim-duncan-left-the-bench-too-will-he-be-suspended/3#comments<BR/><BR/>No altercation.Geoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03914758963177267247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-33305169423539527182007-05-16T12:39:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:39:00.000-04:00Apologies: 5 of 6.Apologies: 5 of 6.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-17863235143197108582007-05-16T12:35:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:35:00.000-04:00No wonder US Basketball has gone in the crapper: 5...No wonder US Basketball has gone in the crapper: 5 of the last 7 NBA MVPs have not been from the US.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-28802033592772177592007-05-16T12:32:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:32:00.000-04:00@ NDyanksIt wasn't deemed an altercation by Stu Ja...@ NDyanks<BR/><BR/>It wasn't deemed an altercation by Stu Jackson. <BR/><BR/>from WWL:<BR/><BR/>The Suns countered by saying that Duncan and Bruce Bowen were guilty of a similar leaving-the-bench offense in Game 4's first half when San Antonio's Francisco Elson fell on the Suns' James Jones after a dunk. That play was also reviewed, but Jackson -- while conceding that Duncan "should not have been on the playing court" -- said that the league determined there was "no cause for the suspension rule" to be applied because the Elson-Jones tangle was not deemed to be an altercation. <BR/><BR/><BR/>I didn't see the video so i can't give my own opinion.Ftrainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11136143693025542474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-36736105803053017752007-05-16T12:29:00.000-04:002007-05-16T12:29:00.000-04:00Well then suspend Duncan for coming out on the cou...Well then suspend Duncan for coming out on the court earlier in the game - he left the bench after two players collided...he should be gone.ndyanksfan05https://www.blogger.com/profile/17049529004061030914noreply@blogger.com