tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post4002850642400977612..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Monday 08/13 A.M. Quickie:Tiger, Ankiel, Jenks, Vick, Pac-Man, More!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger77125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-64171238742043913942007-08-13T19:24:00.000-04:002007-08-13T19:24:00.000-04:00... and Phil Hughes has a 4.64 ERA, so I'm guessin...... and Phil Hughes has a 4.64 ERA, so I'm guessing he's not a very good pitcher either? No, that would be a stupid statement to make. <BR/><BR/>Look, Lester's still really young (23 I believe). It's way, way too early in his career to pass judgment on how much big league success he'll have in his future, especially as he's coming off of cancer.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-74706821442197790442007-08-13T19:01:00.000-04:002007-08-13T19:01:00.000-04:00Who cares if Vick is suspended for this season? Th...Who cares if Vick is suspended for this season? There are new updates that the 2 other co-defendants are taking plea bargain deals now ... meaning he'll be the only guy left. And SportsCenter also says if he doesn't do a plea bargain deal, he could also be charged with racketeering. I know you're innocent until proven guilty, but um, holy shit. How serious is this gonna be?BpL - Beacon, NYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200513140997403356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44417600634374637402007-08-13T17:52:00.000-04:002007-08-13T17:52:00.000-04:00Last year Lester was 7-2 with a 4.76 era, lots of ...Last year Lester was 7-2 with a 4.76 era, lots of guys are good their first couple of starts before hitters start to get a good look at them. My point is that in 19 career starts he has a 5.10 era. It's nice that he beat cancer, but he hasn't really been a good pitcher.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16158660136368665061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-27802713337254296662007-08-13T16:35:00.000-04:002007-08-13T16:35:00.000-04:00Jonathan said... "Lester's comeback is inspirin...Jonathan said...<BR/><BR/> "Lester's comeback is inspiring, however he sucks, and he wasn't good last year either."<BR/><BR/>REALLY Jonny Boy? Lester was 7-2 last year, and his ERA didn't start to inflate until he started getting back pains due to....CANCER! <BR/>5-0 with a 2.38 on July 18th 2006, and then the trouble began. <BR/>Due some friggin research before you make your silly claims chump.Beetlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02410305706883429994noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-50647488480538016442007-08-13T16:15:00.000-04:002007-08-13T16:15:00.000-04:00i dunno - i try to remember as little about ankiel...i dunno - i try to remember as little about ankiel as possible. and anyway, just cause he was a sick picther in high school doesnt mean he also wasnt a sick hitter (nearly all HS prospects are) and im sure he got scholarship offers whether he got drafted or not. you ahve not proved that ankiel did not know how to hit before and during his pitching career in the pros. all youve proved is that you also have this bizzare man love for a pathetic cardinal loser and that i too have spent way to much time discussing a pathetic loser, so now we both look bad. thanks a lot.Ken Dynamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061339942941183172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44741353107830047232007-08-13T15:56:00.000-04:002007-08-13T15:56:00.000-04:00kendynamo-Um, he didn't give up a scholarship to b...kendynamo-<BR/><BR/>Um, he didn't give up a scholarship to be a hitter in college to be a pitching prospect in the pros. I have no idea where you came up with that.<BR/><BR/>In his senior season in highschool he was 11-1 with a 0.47 ERA with 162 Ks in 74 innings. He was the top pitcher in the country and national player of the year.<BR/><BR/>So... you're wrong.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-21733818966004269702007-08-13T15:49:00.000-04:002007-08-13T15:49:00.000-04:00i am a mets fan but what difference does it make? ...i am a mets fan but what difference does it make? find me a non cardnials fans who care about ankiel? or people that havent been influenced by leitch's retarded man crush? (another awful ankiel post replete with fat ugly cardinal fans and delapidated downtown st louis on there today, by the way.) once the guy bombs out of the majors again we can all forget about him. until then i have to suffer thru this crap. also ankiel is not 'learning' how to hit for the first time in his life. he forgoe a scholarship to play every day in college to be a pitching prospect in the cardinals farm. he is not that special. he is just getting a lot of pub becasue the guy who writes the most popular sports blog on the internet wants to personally polish his dome piece.Ken Dynamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061339942941183172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-69771989429728906352007-08-13T15:15:00.000-04:002007-08-13T15:15:00.000-04:00Ankiel was a good hitter (.250 / 2HR in 2000) when...Ankiel was a good hitter (.250 / 2HR in 2000) when he was pitching. So Hamilton's not doing anything for 3 years while Ankiel was moving to full-time hitting is more impressive.TBenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337905315011989614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-41099189505282154812007-08-13T15:14:00.000-04:002007-08-13T15:14:00.000-04:00How did the prophet Muhammad create a Mini-Me vers...How did the prophet Muhammad create a Mini-Me version of himself, one capable of having football players as offspring?<BR/><BR/>And are Muslims happy about this?Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-54813156478397743902007-08-13T15:11:00.000-04:002007-08-13T15:11:00.000-04:00ToddtheJA:Actually Ankiel may not be the hitter Du...ToddtheJA:<BR/>Actually Ankiel may not be the hitter Duncan is, but he's probably going to be a better fielder.<BR/><BR/>And nevermind, Ken Dynamo isn't a Cub fan. I forgot most Cub fans only pick out the star to hate (and vice versa for Card fans).<BR/><BR/>He's either an Astro fan (who are the most vocally angry anti-Card fans) or a Cardinal fan (since most Card fans on the STL boards rip every player whenever they can).TBenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337905315011989614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-29515050380729636912007-08-13T15:07:00.000-04:002007-08-13T15:07:00.000-04:00kendynamo-The question isn't about guys that could...kendynamo-<BR/><BR/>The question isn't about guys that could do both and then changed their mind on which to do, it's about a guy who could only do one and then learned to do the other.<BR/><BR/>revscott-<BR/><BR/>As for the Hamilton comparison, is it harder to pick up something you used to do or learn something completely new? Hadn't swung a bat in three years? Ankiel had never tried to be a hitter!<BR/><BR/>chipp-<BR/><BR/>Fielder to pitcher happens all the time. Every year in the minors they have a couple guys who throw hard and they put them on the mound and turn them into a pitcher. Ankiel is way different.<BR/><BR/>And no, Babe Ruth isn't a good example. Babe was both a hitter and pitcher and then focussed on being a hitter. It's not like when he was a pitcher he wasn't a hitter. And even if Ruth was a good example, THEN YOU ARE DISSING A GUY WHO IS BEING COMPARED TO BABE EFFING RUTH!GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-39753142187311112342007-08-13T14:53:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:53:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ken Dynamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061339942941183172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-10412123235265042402007-08-13T14:33:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:33:00.000-04:00well i guess you have show me jonathon. but if the...well i guess you have show me jonathon. but if the yanks get to october, all the stats you just brought up are going to mean nothing unless he produces then. And yes it is fair, because he is going to be held to the standard of all Yankee greats that produced in the real clutch, Mantle, Ruth, DiMaggio, Gerhig, Jackson...If you are the best, you will be compared to the best.David Kippehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873631867494898033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-84023032988691574012007-08-13T14:21:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:21:00.000-04:00The Yanks are 8-2 in August, Arod has 4 hr's 11 rb...The Yanks are 8-2 in August, Arod has 4 hr's 11 rbis ans is hitting .324 in that time span, yet somehow they are still winning. so thereJonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16158660136368665061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-66690446937745624582007-08-13T14:16:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:16:00.000-04:00Thanks Big D, Arod is the only player that get's s...Thanks Big D, Arod is the only player that get's shit for hitting home runs when the game isn't that close. It's pretty ridiculous and I think the only reason why is because he hits so many homers that a lot of them are going to come at times when the game isn't on the line.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16158660136368665061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-41703006261238125832007-08-13T14:11:00.001-04:002007-08-13T14:11:00.001-04:00no one is trying to turn it into a negative about ...no one is trying to turn it into a negative about A-Rod, but it is amazing to see this. it is consistent with is history.David Kippehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873631867494898033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-21805700484324960842007-08-13T14:11:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:11:00.000-04:00Jonathon, I didn't mean to sound like I was jumpin...Jonathon, <BR/>I didn't mean to sound like I was jumping on A-Rod, who wouldn't love to have him on their team. It is just probably coincidental that his performance seems inversely proportional to the performance of the team as a whole. Just kind of funny though.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-70426848055999666272007-08-13T14:10:00.002-04:002007-08-13T14:10:00.002-04:00Sparty, at the rate Arod was going there was going...Sparty, at the rate Arod was going there was going to have to be some periods where he cools off,.<BR/><BR/>Arod's BA and rbi's by month<BR/><BR/>April .355 34<BR/>May .235 11<BR/>June .402 34<BR/>July .206 24<BR/>August .324 11<BR/><BR/>See a pattern here, he goes up and down. July was a down month for him, as was June. In Agust he's hitting .324 with 11 rbi's in 11 games. So what's the conclusion players have bad months!!! Holy shit!!!Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16158660136368665061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-40337428889708200992007-08-13T14:10:00.001-04:002007-08-13T14:10:00.001-04:00Damnit jonathan, you type too fast.Damnit jonathan, you type too fast.Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-46480971456007914392007-08-13T14:10:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:10:00.000-04:00@ cycledan:I've got a different take on Arod (I'm ...<I>@ cycledan:</I><BR/><BR/>I've got a different take on Arod (I'm sure others have made the same point). Perhaps the reason he is awe-inspiringly good on lousy teams is that he realizes the rest of the team around him is not good enough to win games, so he feels like he has to carry them on his own (see: Rangers, early '07 Yankees). <BR/><BR/>But when the rest of the team is performing at a high level, he can kind of slow down a little bit and let everyone else take the reigns.<BR/><BR/>Of course, this doesn't explain his innate ability to come up with a "clutch" 3-run homer when his team is already up 10...Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-16384440499483629882007-08-13T14:06:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:06:00.000-04:00I realize Pennington has been hurt, but why are pe...I realize Pennington has been hurt, but why are people always down on him? I've always thought he was a very heads-up QB. As evidence, sometime during the middle of last season was his first interception in the redzone ... OF HIS CAREER!! As a coach, I'd take Pennington over most of the schleps in the league.chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-62711054511612435012007-08-13T14:03:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:03:00.000-04:00CycleDan, it's a team sport, when they needed Arod...CycleDan, it's a team sport, when they needed Arod the most he played awesome, but he was the only one producing back then, now that the whole team is playing well and they are winning they don't need him to be as good as he was in the 1st half. I think they team as a whole is playing so much better and that's why they are winning, but people just want to turn it into a negative thing about Arod.Jonathanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16158660136368665061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-39294488262770942242007-08-13T14:01:00.001-04:002007-08-13T14:01:00.001-04:00NY Jets fans won't call for Clemens to replace Pen...NY Jets fans won't call for Clemens to replace Pennington until the team starts losing. NY/NJ fans are smart enough to know they won 10 games with the guy last year and this is just preseason. <BR/><BR/>Mangini has a lot to prove this year. Was last year's resurgence just due to first year good luck in having a lot of injured players come back or is he starting a dynasty? <BR/><BR/>I still wonder how the disgruntled Pete Kendall situation will work out. They are not going to trade him unless they get good value. He is basically screwed. He can't sit out the season. He also can't sandbag it since he needs to prove he is worth more money to his next team.<BR/><BR/>Players have no leverage. If they don't renegotiate a contract to take less, they get cut. If they are under contract, teams have no real reason to renegotiate up. The only time to do that is for a young up and coming player who they can lock in under market value.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-47620656232678654182007-08-13T14:01:00.000-04:002007-08-13T14:01:00.000-04:00thank you cycledan, you responded to my comment ab...thank you cycledan, you responded to my comment about arod the way i expected someone too. ever since they got hot, he has not hit as well. not saying terrible, but definitely not as well as the rest of the season.David Kippehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873631867494898033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-89140366421421500102007-08-13T13:56:00.000-04:002007-08-13T13:56:00.000-04:00I can't really understand A-Rod. The better he doe...I can't really understand A-Rod. The better he does, the worse the Yankees do. When the Yankees were playing terribly, he was tearing up the league. Now that the Yanks are streaking he is putting up good but not great numbers.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.com