tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post4571226281525476313..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Tuesday 02/20 A.M. Quickie:On Norv! On Kidd! On A-Rod! On Wisco!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-33191243905715590742007-02-21T10:28:00.000-05:002007-02-21T10:28:00.000-05:00@ndyanksfan05Let me put it this way . . .Tim Harda...@ndyanksfan05<BR/><BR/>Let me put it this way . . .<BR/>Tim Hardaway hates you.DPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578317528757744169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-5481714122230425132007-02-21T10:00:00.000-05:002007-02-21T10:00:00.000-05:00@NDYanks, Alright, if you graduated from ND, that'...@NDYanks, Alright, if you graduated from ND, that's fairly understandable then... as long as you hate Duke, the other Axis of Evil in my book. <BR/><BR/>@Kurt, I don't really think Ortiz is a God, etc., I just used him for comical effect in trying to be as ridiculous in claims about him as I hear some people make about Jeter. <BR/><BR/>Glad you can acknowledge that Jeter has his flaws, that makes you a much smarter sports fan than some. Of course, Ortiz has some flaws, as in he has the defensive range of a quadraped, tends to whine too much to the umps, hasn't cured cancer... yet...<BR/><BR/>They're both great players. And as you'd see in one of my earlier comments, I did acknowledge that Jeter, if he continues putting up good numbers for the next couple years (and crosses the 3,000 hit mark), should easily be a first-ballot HOFer. And I even said most teams would probably want him on their team (Mets fans have the better SS right now, O's fans probably as well). So in all fairness, it's not like I'm denying Jeter is a good player or anything.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-76805577105071044152007-02-20T23:37:00.000-05:002007-02-20T23:37:00.000-05:00A-Rod is out of position? He's been playing 3rd fo...A-Rod is out of position? He's been playing 3rd for a coupla years now. <BR/><BR/>There can only be one 'hated' team in a sport at any one time. The Yankees..considering they haven't won in a while..are no longer 'it'. The Red Sox have taken that mantle. <BR/><BR/>But hey..I still think Paul O'Neill was the last true leader on the Yankees.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-37533188134650079882007-02-20T21:21:00.000-05:002007-02-20T21:21:00.000-05:00Wow, what a performance by Drew Neitzel. Definite...Wow, what a performance by Drew Neitzel. Definitely makes me want Mich St. to make it just to watch him keep playing. Absolutely terrific.mcam09https://www.blogger.com/profile/03814454301166764131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-48073100895967503162007-02-20T21:02:00.000-05:002007-02-20T21:02:00.000-05:00Still think Wisconsin deserves to be #1 Dan?Still think Wisconsin deserves to be #1 Dan?Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-12249080906717776882007-02-20T19:36:00.000-05:002007-02-20T19:36:00.000-05:00Todd, imagine Ortiz played shortstop well, was you...Todd, imagine Ortiz played shortstop well, was your team captain and led your team to 4 world championships, along with all of the other intangibles he brings to the table. Don't tell me you wouldn't be all over his nuts. I <B>LIVE</B> in Beantown, I see the Ortiz cock-riding that goes on in this town. Dude is on "T" cars left and right and people treat "Big Papi" like he's God. He's only been in Boston for 4 years, they've only won <B>ONE</B> world series with him, and he's a fatass who "rests" every half inning. So stop acting like if you had a star player who played 11 seasons for your team while batting career .317 and leading your team to 4 championships you wouldn't defend him like Yankee fans do. Red Sox fans feel the need to hate on someone like Jeter because they think its comical, it's in their nature to be haters. Sure Ortiz is a fatass and doesn't deserve MVP's as DH, but I don't wish death upon him. He's a nice guy and a great player, even though he has flaws. We all know Jeter has flaws, all of us do, but we don't sit around and pick out random shit he doesn't do well like you do. No baseball players have ever been perfect, the soon to be greatest player/homerun hitter of all time is one of the most miserable doochebags alive, but hes still a great player. So admit you'd take Jeter in a second on your team and stfu.Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-32471279109034491202007-02-20T18:43:00.000-05:002007-02-20T18:43:00.000-05:00http://deadoff.blogspot.com/for those who want to ...http://deadoff.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>for those who want to get deadspin accountsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-72913856418828645042007-02-20T18:10:00.000-05:002007-02-20T18:10:00.000-05:00And Andy/Lenny, there haven't been any World Wars ...And Andy/Lenny, there haven't been any World Wars since Ortiz was born, right? You can't tell me I have that fact wrong...ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-60879600852865217882007-02-20T18:08:00.000-05:002007-02-20T18:08:00.000-05:00I have an analogy for you Jeter-defenders out ther...I have an analogy for you Jeter-defenders out there. <BR/><BR/>You know how when you were in high school you saw this really hot girl or guy, and then you tell your friends about said hottie. You build them up to be the hottest person ever to walk the Earth, and then when your friends see them, they're like, "eh, she's cute, I guess"... and then they proceed to point out all their flaws? <BR/><BR/>That's sort of like what you all do with Jeter. You guys put him on such a pedestal, and have such lofty regard for him, that you can't see any of his flaws. <BR/><BR/>So many of the "only Jeter could've made that play" comments are loaded, same with some of his "clutch" situations. Jeff Maier gave him one, a slow juicer who didn't slide gave him another, and hitting a HR off of Byung Hyung Kim really doesn't count as anything, right? And please don't even mention the dive into the stands at Yankee Stadium... totally could've avoided that... <BR/><BR/>Does he have clutch ABs? Sure, but he's not the freakin' god you make him out to be. But so long as you guys refuse to accept any criticisms, or think he's infallible, all of us are going to be right here waiting to discredit him. <BR/><BR/>He's not the best SS of this era (his teammate is), and he's rarely been the best player on his own team.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-70311040127082513872007-02-20T17:47:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:47:00.000-05:00I really don't see Jeter as a very good leader. I...I really don't see Jeter as a very good leader. I remember reading an article last year about his poor leadership. Good leaders bring the best out of the people they are leading. If Jeter can't bring the best out of A-Rod, then he's a terrible leader. <BR/><BR/>And all you Yankees fans knocking on A-Rod for being terrible at third base, give him a break. <B>THE GUY IS PLAYING OUT OF POSITION!!!!</B> I'll bet he hasn't played third base since his days in little league so quit knocking his abilities there. I actually played third base on a championship team in high school. It is an extremely hard position to play. The ball comes at you at an incredible rate of speed. You have very little time to react to the ball. You have a lot more reaction time at shortstop and the guy played there for probably 15 years and was asked to change positions. Give him a freaking break!Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-70353971029953546162007-02-20T17:44:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:44:00.000-05:00who else is pumped for the devils rangers game ton...who else is pumped for the devils rangers game tonight at 730? <BR/><BR/>in england it would be called the hudson river darbee. Neat!!!!!Ken Dynamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01061339942941183172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-31444942428049714662007-02-20T17:27:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:27:00.000-05:00I'd even STILL rather have Nomar :)I'd even STILL rather have Nomar :)Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-90107668408970031402007-02-20T17:26:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:26:00.000-05:00I was at Yankee Stadium last year and saw the play...I was at Yankee Stadium last year and saw the play on the jumbotron....come on everyone, that's a freakin' brilliant play. <BR/><BR/>The only thing that bothers me is that Giambi was SAFE anyway. Ump blew the call....you can tell on the Gatorade what-if ad.<BR/><BR/>What he was "doing over there" was following the play. As a shortstop, the runners were already behind him, and any baseball player with the urge to hustle knows there's always somewhere to be on the field.<BR/><BR/>That was a heads-up play....way, WAY better than that hot-dog dive against the Red Sox back in '04.Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-4177210346765597822007-02-20T17:24:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:24:00.000-05:00Unless you watch Jeter play every day, you fail to...Unless you watch Jeter play every day, you fail to understand his greatness. How many big hits did he get last year? In the Sox series alone, he had the two biggest hits of the year, doubling home 3 runs in the first game and then tying the game against Papelbon in the Sunday night game. Who bloodies their face making a catch in a regular season game? I'd take Jeter over Arod to start a team any day. Arod went thru a 3 week period last year where he couldn't throw the ball to 1st base. He is simply too fragile mentally.mcam09https://www.blogger.com/profile/03814454301166764131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-25791003604967402052007-02-20T17:19:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:19:00.000-05:00"How many other shortstops make that 2001 ALDS pla..."How many other shortstops make that 2001 ALDS play? None!"<BR/><BR/>Alex RodriguezMegahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-32764971572163681152007-02-20T17:08:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:08:00.000-05:00Alright todd, your arguments are valid. But no Wo...Alright todd, your arguments are valid. But no World Wars since Ortiz was born? Come on!! The guy doesn;t even play defense!!!Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-88401413367402083092007-02-20T17:07:00.000-05:002007-02-20T17:07:00.000-05:00I think that Jeter play in the ALDS is a joke. Wh...I think that Jeter play in the ALDS is a joke. Why do people give so much credit for a player being so out of position? The fact is, he shouldn't have been over there at all, and had Giambi slid, it would have been even more dumb. A throw that shitty should have been cut off by someone on the right side of the field. Jeter running all the way over there is the least "leader-like" thing he could have done.<BR/><BR/>That said, there are few players that you dread seeing come up in a situation in which a hit wins the game. I would take A-Rod over Jeter easily, but having Jeter wouldn't be too bad. Though I would love to see Jeter playing for the Pirates to see how great he really is. Intangibles don't mean too much when your team sucks.Luke Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15794556619520450782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-61991790734641944872007-02-20T16:46:00.000-05:002007-02-20T16:46:00.000-05:00NDYanksfan, do you like Duke too?I mean seriously,...NDYanksfan, do you like Duke too?<BR/><BR/>I mean seriously, Notre Dame and the Yankees? That's pretty weak dude. I mean seriously, how do you go to sleep at night? Do you cuddle up with your Jeter bobblehead and sleep in a Brady Quinn jersey while dreaming of having everyone hate you?ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-11465395654288098462007-02-20T16:41:00.000-05:002007-02-20T16:41:00.000-05:00Your stat choice is interesting, since Jeter's OBP...Your stat choice is interesting, since Jeter's OBP is always impressive, and no one really gives a rat's ass about fielding percentage and the super-heated doubles race. (Not to mention he consistently leads MLB in killing cute puppies and kittens in every year as well). <BR/><BR/>You Yankee fans just don't get it, do you? Jeter is a great player, but he's not perfect, he's not the second coming, he's not Mickey Mantle or Babe Ruth. He was a key cog in a dynasty. He puts up good numbers most years, but is never the best player in baseball nor is he usually even the best player on his own team. <B>The more you argue how perfect he is, how great he is, the more we will hate him.</B> <BR/><BR/>Admit some of his flaws, and you'd be a lot more believable. For instance, you could start that Jeter doesn't have great range, that he has never had the opportunity to show greatness independent of his great teammates, that his power numbers are inferior to the elite SS in the game, that he should have done more to de-escalate the A-Rod situation last year, and, if you'd like to appease me, admit that Jeter is hiding Iraq's WMDs. <BR/><BR/>All this is opposed to David Ortiz. Has anyone else noticed that there hasn't been a World War since David Ortiz was born? Coincidence? I think not my friends...ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-53954547106614299802007-02-20T16:29:00.000-05:002007-02-20T16:29:00.000-05:00And Brady Finally speaks well at least his agent d...And Brady Finally speaks well at least his agent does.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.boston.com/sports/football/articles/2007/02/20/brady_excited_about_impending_fatherhood_1171999663/" REL="nofollow"><BR/><BR/>check it out</A>CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-33751155119374825742007-02-20T16:21:00.000-05:002007-02-20T16:21:00.000-05:00A-Rod is a $25M/yr crybaby who looks around his lo...A-Rod is a $25M/yr crybaby who looks around his locker-room for other people to blame when things don't go his way. First, he thought fans should be equally critical of Giambi, Johnson, and Mussina because they also made $20M per season. Now his troubles are because he doesn't have a good friendship with Jeter. <BR/><BR/>But, if I had to pick one Yankee to add to my team, I would take A-Rod every time. He's a better defensive shortstop than DJ. He's one of the best offensive players of all time. His career postseason numbers aren't that bad, and were actually pretty good up until that 3-0 lead against Boston. I would rather get to the postseason and take my chances than not have A-Rod at all.<BR/><BR/>Jeter is one of the greatest clutch players of this generation who gets timely hits and did make one spectacular defensive play in the postseason. But really, he's the 2nd best shortstop on the Yankees. <BR/><BR/>Jeter became the face of the great Yankees dynasty because of his youth and good looks in 1996. Now, he's well into his career and hasn't won in 6 years. He wasn't the best player on any team then, and he isn't now.Natsfan74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02774593132826810650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-17814619052630197922007-02-20T16:15:00.000-05:002007-02-20T16:15:00.000-05:00I agree with whoever it was that said Jeter is bot...I agree with whoever it was that said Jeter is both great, and overrated (I wanna say it was Neyer). Barring serious injury, he's a HOF first-ballot lock, and non-slumber-party-pillow-fight-in-their-panties-with-A-Rod aside, seems like he could be a decent person (though I still hold out that he's the Anti-Christ).<BR/><BR/>But anyway, my point is that Yankee fans dig their own graves on the Jeter debate, because the more you talk about Jeter's intangibles, his greatness, (one freakin' flip to home play that no one would've remembered had some juicer decided to slide), then maybe we wouldn't all hate the guy so much (though I still would, as I'm convinced he was the mastermind behind 9-11). <BR/><BR/>But yeah, the Jeter man-love is so much of what causes everyone to hate Jeter, as is the fact that he's on the ever-so-hateable Yankees. No one here would say he's not a great player, he is, but just that everyone's sick and tired of hearing how he's so freakin' amazing, how he's such a great leader, etc., and so we all find flaws within his game/leadership (his range, not giving enough pats on the butt to A-Rod, though I blame him for causing the melting of the Polar Ice Caps). <BR/><BR/>@CMfost, I don't know if antogonizing Dan will be the best way to get him to join the league... you know, even if he's totally weak and scared of us... <BR/><BR/>[apologies to the people not in our league]ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-6121144621205510492007-02-20T16:00:00.000-05:002007-02-20T16:00:00.000-05:00Hey Shanoff, What are you afraid to join a Fantasy...Hey Shanoff, What are you afraid to join a Fantasy Baseball league with your readers? Don't worry we will rip you equally if you suck as anyone else.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-4520034815938291892007-02-20T15:35:00.000-05:002007-02-20T15:35:00.000-05:00Don't the Chargers have an opening at D-coordinato...Don't the Chargers have an opening at D-coordinator? Why wouldn't they hire Rivera to fill that hole instead of linebacker coach.IkeKrizzulehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02462121707162240038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-29681858038738292502007-02-20T15:30:00.000-05:002007-02-20T15:30:00.000-05:00How many other shortstops make that 2001 ALDS play...How many other shortstops make that 2001 ALDS play? None! In any event, I only brought up the gold gloves and Jeter's increasingly better defense as a contrast to the suckfest ARod displayed last season. It's funny how some get fixated on one part of a comment and run with it.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, there's no question that statistically ARod is the superior player through September, but championships are won in October. Look back a month and see what people were saying about the Manning vs. Brady thing. It's a non-story now that Peyton has a SB ring (sorry Pats fans, but it's true).<BR/><BR/>Speaking of Brady, I think this is the biggest shrug of the shoulders stories of the year so far. So, let's see if I get this straight, Brady had sex with his hot gf and now she's pregnant. Is that all?!Seems like 8th grade health class of the rich and famous to meverbal97https://www.blogger.com/profile/02282148454169067288noreply@blogger.com