tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post4633889358202161038..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: CFB: Effing Bedlam! Who's Number 2?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-78595192823383874652007-12-03T13:11:00.000-05:002007-12-03T13:11:00.000-05:00To those calling for the Big 10 to have a champion...To those calling for the Big 10 to have a championship game, realize that you have to have 12 teams in order to have a conference championship game according to the NCAA. Even though they can't count and have 11, they are still one school short.<BR/><BR/>As for championship games, if Missouri had split with Oklahoma, who is the better team?<BR/><BR/>For that matter, LSU won the SEC without ever playing Georgia. Guess LSU got lucky due to a scheduling quirk that they didn't have to play the best team in the SEC this year.Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03122400676926242401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-75970324091277217622007-12-03T12:24:00.000-05:002007-12-03T12:24:00.000-05:00Speaking of Heisman, a sophomore QB became the 2nd...Speaking of Heisman, a sophomore QB became the 2nd Div-1A player (Vince Young) to pass for 3,000 and run for 1,000 in a season, and it's not Tebow. Introducing Central Michigan's Dan LeFevour: 3,360 passing, 23 TD's; 1,008 rushing, 17 TD's, 6.5 YPC.Jeff Harrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15785570174624033490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-25779535269651695932007-12-03T11:24:00.000-05:002007-12-03T11:24:00.000-05:00Is there a way to revoke The Rose Bowl's BCS privl...Is there a way to revoke The Rose Bowl's BCS privledges?<BR/><BR/>Illinois?High Desert Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12877078287551406560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-86036168700667837732007-12-02T19:45:00.000-05:002007-12-02T19:45:00.000-05:00Here's my favorite stat that I heard on ESPN earli...Here's my favorite stat that I heard on ESPN earlier today:<BR/><BR/># of wins over winning teams:<BR/><BR/>Kansas (11-1)- 2 wins<BR/>USC (10-2)- 2 wins<BR/><BR/>Can't argue USC over Kansas. Again except for the fact that one is USC and the other is Kansas.<BR/><BR/>I also don't really agree about having to win the conference championship, not when there's conferences that don't have them. If the Big XII had no conference championship like the Big 10, here's what you see at the top:<BR/><BR/>Missouri (7-1)<BR/>Kansas (7-1)<BR/>Oklahoma (6-2)<BR/><BR/>Georgia, Tennesee, and LSU would all be 6-2 and rely on some tiebreaker to determine the champ.<BR/><BR/>Interesting stat from Posnanski at the KC Star this morning. In the 12 year history of the Big XII, 5 times a team with a chance to go to the BCS title game has lost. (OU lost but still went that one time)jhawkjjmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297634924511036895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-730426876797911452007-12-02T18:53:00.000-05:002007-12-02T18:53:00.000-05:00Thanks so much for giving LSU credit for a tougher...Thanks so much for giving LSU credit for a tougher schedule and losses in triple overtime only.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that LSU played the toughest schedule ever. If they do not get credit for that schedule then, inevitably, they will weaken their schedule and our enjoyment of college football. I say LSU is number one, walking away. I expect them to be Ohio State by 13 points. I am not an LSU fan.John Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16959270971623958701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-12403653985662758792007-12-02T18:41:00.000-05:002007-12-02T18:41:00.000-05:00@marcmarcoThe field was all covered so I have no c...@marcmarco<BR/><BR/>The field was all covered so I have no clue...what I do know is that is basically has been raining here since last night at about 10pm. Not good!!! <BR/><BR/>and yes, my Mountaineers choked...but is Pitt that bad that everyone thinks it was greater than Appy State beating Michigan?? Michigan had no pressure on them at the time...people gotta remember, these kids are between 18 and 22 typically, anything really can happen.<BR/><BR/>I also can say that Pitt is much improved this year since the beginning. Starting a lot of skill true freshmen...they are starting to come together, and that's great for the Big East and sadly, but gladly, it made the Backyard Brawl extremely relevant again.mirthywvuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12740820707188665398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-78191955419224911562007-12-02T16:36:00.000-05:002007-12-02T16:36:00.000-05:00Does LSU really deserve a THIRD shot at the nation...Does LSU really deserve a THIRD shot at the national championship?<BR/><BR/>Ohio State-OklahomaBrianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14085114964512611942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-25830792458514955902007-12-02T16:17:00.000-05:002007-12-02T16:17:00.000-05:00so football comes down to arguing whos losses are ...so football comes down to arguing whos losses are better, how many points you lose by, and where you loss at?? a loss is a loss is a loss... any given Saturday... pretty much anyone can win each week... unless you are Notre Dame... that is why they play the games!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07579471530326371205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-48571045563102181992007-12-02T15:30:00.000-05:002007-12-02T15:30:00.000-05:00Pitt over WVU > App St. over Michigan !!!Pitt over WVU > App St. over Michigan !!!Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02069031942564729520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-57187590098408257922007-12-02T15:25:00.000-05:002007-12-02T15:25:00.000-05:00Dan, I believe the bowl that loses their champ has...Dan, I believe the bowl that loses their champ has first crack at whoever's 2nd in the league if they're eligible. The Sugar will take Georgia.Andy Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15882993306853403599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-73184104234538225222007-12-02T14:27:00.000-05:002007-12-02T14:27:00.000-05:00AP Poll today has OSU #1 and LSU #2. So as long a...AP Poll today has OSU #1 and LSU #2. So as long as these are the two teams the BCS picks for the title game, there will not be a split champ. If LSU beats OSU, the AP Poll would not be able to justify giving their "title vote" to anyone other than the #2 team that just beat the #1 team. Sorry, Dan.TJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14923521765537437204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-42700824620704495662007-12-02T14:22:00.000-05:002007-12-02T14:22:00.000-05:00Ohio State is NOT backing in more than Oklahoma di...Ohio State is NOT backing in more than Oklahoma did. Oklahoma actually lost their conference championship. And, Dan, do you still feel that all the voters that had Hawaii in their Top 25 should have their credentials revoked? I stopped reading your blog for a while when I tried to comment and it told me I had to be on "the team" or something, wiping out a good 3 paragrpahs. What's up with the comment moderation? Did you have someone trying to dive-bomb the comments section? Because I really totally missed that.starkweatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08067659960128584230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-21189188230809245672007-12-02T14:14:00.000-05:002007-12-02T14:14:00.000-05:00i feel great that people like you saw we are backi...i feel great that people like you saw we are backing in, with the way this season played out, everyone would have backed in due to everyone else losing. we won our conference and deserve to be here. i will say that if lsu, or WVU, or mizzou, or kansas would have taken care of business then no arguement here, they deserve to be there.<BR/><BR/>but news flash...lsu couldnt beak a bad arkansas team, and mizzou got thumped by OU, and kansas lost to mizzou and WVU chocked at home to pitt..TO PITT!!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>this season is one of the best and haters like you can say all you want about the buckeyes backing in. still doesnt change the fact that the title game was sitting for teams to grab it, and none of them did.<BR/><BR/>and im fine with playing LSU(if that is who it is) gives us the chance to win and shut all you people up<BR/><BR/><BR/>GO BUCKEYES THANKS PITT AND OKLAHOMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04011106339596396619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-14340137123976495682007-12-02T13:54:00.000-05:002007-12-02T13:54:00.000-05:00DS,This has to be my favorite quote ever: "The per...DS,<BR/><BR/>This has to be my favorite quote ever: "The perfect season is BCS-bowl-worthy, but hardly national-title-game worthy."<BR/><BR/>Just in case anyone out there was wondering why people think the BCS is a crock of shit, just look at that quote. It says it all.<BR/><BR/>Georgia is not getting screwed. They aren't even the best team in their conference. Same goes for Kansas.<BR/><BR/>West Virginia, on the otherhand IS screwed. They have exactly the same claim as LSU, OU, USC and VT. Someone needs to explain why they aren't in the dscussion anymore. They lost? Yeah well so did the other guys.<BR/><BR/>But the team that's screwed more than anyone else...HAWAII! Ohio State vs. Hawaii is the most fair pairing out there.<BR/><BR/>Oh and Kevin Smith for Heisman!!!Richard K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03531910826978107037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-69575153304124183292007-12-02T13:47:00.000-05:002007-12-02T13:47:00.000-05:00Hrm, the possibility of a UGA/USC Rose Bowl sounds...Hrm, the possibility of a UGA/USC Rose Bowl sounds a lot more fun than an OSU/LSU title game. Or is that just me?Michael Whttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11361493501818705947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-53408792776053652022007-12-02T13:31:00.000-05:002007-12-02T13:31:00.000-05:00My Sun Devils are going to get hosed outta a Fiest...My Sun Devils are going to get hosed outta a Fiesta Bowl appearance. I'll blame the Rose Bowl for keeping their stupid "tradition" preference in tack. <BR/><BR/>LAME!patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01016510909567471614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-82174647027454712362007-12-02T13:26:00.000-05:002007-12-02T13:26:00.000-05:00I like the concept of looking at Quality of Losses...I like the concept of looking at Quality of Losses as well as Quality of Wins.<BR/><BR/>Losing to Illinois is much better then losing to two unranked teams. Just like I cannot in good faith give a berth to USC when they lost to Stanford<BR/><BR/>Am I saying it is the only way to base the decision, NO, but it should be given more weight then people tend to dodanwise1856https://www.blogger.com/profile/17327190301668263115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-36534952960925514852007-12-02T13:14:00.000-05:002007-12-02T13:14:00.000-05:00All of you BC$ lovers crack me up. Your arguments...All of you BC$ lovers crack me up. Your arguments change every season depending on what best suits you (as do your "rules" as demonstrated so clearly with the hasty last-minute rule-change this year). <BR/><BR/>"The regular-season is a defacto playoff" - Ummm.. yeah. That's why the two teams with the longest winning streaks AREN'T playing for the NC. <BR/><BR/>"It's better to lose early then to lose late" - Ummm.. yeah. <BR/><BR/>"We can't have a playoff... it would hurt academics, scheduling, etc." - Ummm.. yeah. That's why all of the other levels of football do it... http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/college_football/20071130-1629-fbc-nancyarmour-113007.html <BR/><BR/>Just admit that this whole system is BROKEN. The only reason it is not being fixed with an OBVIOUS solution is because of $$$$$$$. The amount of $$$$ involved in the BCS is so much that you can't help but think that it is affecting the "impartial" nature of the officiating. (See the Pitt game last night... what a blatant show of no-calls or crap-calls I have ever seen). <BR/><BR/>The answer is simple, a 16-team playoff... I love the plan put forth by Dan Wetzel here: http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=dw-playoff112707&prov=yhoo&type=lgns<BR/><BR/>It's simple. It's fair, and it would improve college football immeasurably and would generate HUGE amounts of viewership and $$$$$. Some of the bowls would suffer, and some of the crooks that run them would lose some money, but SOOOOO WHAT? <BR/><BR/>This year is the biggest mess ever. The system is broken, please admit it, and let's scrap the system NOW and put a playoff into place. Complaints would still remain about seeding, but WHO CARES? You think you are "all that"... then win your games. Period. Even fans from the supposed "lower tier" conferences like me wouldn't have any reason to complain if we merely had access.<BR/><BR/>If you think Hawaii is undeserving, it would be PROVEN in a playoff. <BR/><BR/>Otherwise, it just smacks of rhetoric and FEAR... of losing. <BR/><BR/>Bring on the playoff!Biffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05082840669422774045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-27947684981066879492007-12-02T12:47:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:47:00.000-05:00If you use the logic that's being used to make Ohi...If you use the logic that's being used to make Ohio St. #1, set at home and move up in the polls if the teams ahead of you loose, then you have to use that same logic with every other team. That would put Georgia in the NC. <BR/><BR/>If you want teams with the fewest losses then you have to consider OSU, KU, and even Hawaii<BR/><BR/>If you only want Conference Champions in the NC. Then it could be OSU, LSU, Va-Tech, USC, or Oklahoma. I'd leave out Oklahoma becasue they haven't done enough to jump LSU, Va-Tech, or USC. USC would be out due to the loss to the 41 point dog. Va-Tech loss to LSU so that leaves LSU playing OSU.Codyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06113551531274057788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-33194238668181089352007-12-02T12:34:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:34:00.000-05:00So we could have two national championship games O...So we could have two national championship games Ohio St vs LSU and USC vs Georgia and then everyone can get angry on January 8th. I think it's great.<BR/><BR/>But if you are like me and want to stick it to the BCS you vote Hawaii #1 and try to get them in the National Championship game. Then all those BCS Conference commissioners would be crapping their pants and it would be great. <BR/><BR/>PS: I actually think Hawaii could beat OSU.<BR/><BR/>Extra PS: Depressing day here in Columbia, MO. So close to a national championship game and now nothing, only a Cotton Bowl or Holiday Bowl. Potentially two teams (Kansas & Illinois) who we beat will make BCS games over us. What a shame to a bad system.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847114098891496678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-5879544279855020662007-12-02T12:17:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:17:00.000-05:00I'm tired of hearing about Ohio State "backing int...I'm tired of hearing about Ohio State "backing into" the title game. Gonzo, you're exactly right. Ohio State has lost one game in a twelve game season. Did any of the other contenders do that? (The answer is no, the other contenders needed to play a 13th game to win 11.) <BR/><BR/>It defies logic to say they are backing in, because what you are really saying is that if OSU had delayed their game with Michigan and beat them this week instead of beating them two weeks ago, that somehow would make OSU a better and more deserving team. <BR/><BR/>As far as LSU jumping Georgia, if this all happened three weeks ago Georgia would simply move up to #2. But since it is the last week of the season everyone wants to handle it differently and rejigger the order. This completely invalidates the whole process of in-season polls. <BR/><BR/>If LSU goes to the championship game then the Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl would have both lost a team. I wonder which one gets first pick of a replacement?<BR/><BR/>I think the NCAA should conduct an investigation of the Big East. It looked to me like someone talked to the referees at halftime of the WVA-Pitt game and said "do what it takes to get a Big East team into the National Championship Game".Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15134722306196446134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-51402032287924008842007-12-02T12:14:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:14:00.000-05:00If both OSU and LSU qualify for the BCS game, the ...If both OSU and LSU qualify for the BCS game, the two bowls that lost a team would pick in order of whichever team was #1 then #2. Thus it would be rose bowl then sugar bowl.<BR/><BR/>Here's what I think will happen:<BR/><BR/>BCS- OSU v LSU<BR/>Rose- USC v Ill <BR/>Sugar- Georgia v Hawaii<BR/>Fiesta- OU v Arizona State<BR/>Orange- WV v VT (I believe these are both tied to the orange?)<BR/><BR/>If the Rose bowl selects Illinois to keep the Big 10 - Pac 10 thing, this would be horrendous. Illinois is a 3 loss team that is going to just barely qualify in the top 14. It may sound silly after the type of season we've had, but none of those games really appeal to me as "must watch"<BR/><BR/>If Georgia gets match with USC, that's a must watch. And of course I hope Kansas gets put in the BCS, but that's the homer pick.jhawkjjmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297634924511036895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-889806965640814952007-12-02T12:10:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:10:00.000-05:00UGA should go but will not. But, at least we'll g...UGA should go but will not. But, at least we'll get to punk the pretenders from the islands in New Orleans. GO DAWGS!!!!!nsrrderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11998792063375317442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-48263618948906463872007-12-02T12:08:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:08:00.000-05:00Until the Big 10 conference realizes that it's the...Until the Big 10 conference realizes that it's the 21st century and has a championship game like all the other major athletic conferences, any team from that conference, whether it's Ohio State, Michigan, or whoever, will be "backing in" if they're named to play in the BCS title game.<BR/>So, assuming that OSU will be one team in the title game, who should the opponent be? Speaking as a die-hard Gator fan, I would say (and it PAINS me to say this!!) it should be Georgia. Florida lost to both LSU and Georgia, but Georgia really put a hurting on the Gators. LSU, on the other hand, was behind until halfway through the 4th quarter of the UF-LSU game. <BR/>I hope Tebow will be able to lift the Heisman truphy next week with one hand! :-)birdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06089995293849314248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-38901706297555674082007-12-02T12:06:00.000-05:002007-12-02T12:06:00.000-05:00Admit that LSU v OSU is a home game for LSU.Tell m...Admit that LSU v OSU is a home game for LSU.<BR/><BR/>Tell me again how OSU is "backing in" to the title game? Would you say the same for USC if they make it over LSU? Wait, LSU has 2 losses, OSU has 1. So because LSU plays a 13th game they are validated and OSU is not?<BR/><BR/>Please.<BR/><BR/>This is the season (finally) where you have teams lose the games that they "Should have lost to..."<BR/><BR/>2002 OSU "should have lost to Purdue"<BR/><BR/>2004 USC "should have lost to Stanford"<BR/><BR/>2005 USC "should have lost to ASU and ND"<BR/><BR/>This year we finally had higher ranked teams falling in these games. Though you can make the case that LSU "should have lost to Florida, Alabama, Auburn and Tennessee" <BR/><BR/>I don't know if it is the 85 scholarship rule or steroids in all our beef, but if this is the future of CFB then the BCS is screwed and thank GOD.<BR/><BR/>According to ESPN the Rose Bowl is the only thing standing in the way of an 8 team playoff keeping the bowls in the system...I SAY THEN WE BURN IT DOWN!Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11087094908297676378noreply@blogger.com