tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post6603766204406977201..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Monday 02/05 A.M. Quickie:Super Bowl HangoverUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger110125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-59643516958589087722007-02-06T08:21:00.000-05:002007-02-06T08:21:00.000-05:00WORST PLAYED SUPER BOWL EVER, Too Many Turnovers a...WORST PLAYED SUPER BOWL EVER, Too Many Turnovers and Bad PLays.<br /><br />Prince was good but nowhere near U2.<br /><br />The Blockbuster Ad was the best.<br /><br />Did anyone else notice that the first commeecial break was the best and it was all down hill from there.CMFosthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05291296862033162143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-8266952510064620062007-02-05T19:25:00.000-05:002007-02-05T19:25:00.000-05:00Amen Nate, and adlAmen Todd. I couldn't have said...Amen Nate, and adlAmen Todd. I couldn't have said it better myself.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-13662980557385549892007-02-05T18:45:00.000-05:002007-02-05T18:45:00.000-05:00I have no problem with Tony Dungy mentioning his f...I have no problem with Tony Dungy mentioning his faith in his postgame comments. When he says that he coaches "The Lord's way", he means it. He doesn't cuss, doesn't scream, doesn't play mind games with his players, and carries out his job in a way that is consistent with his Christian faith. If Tony Dungy gives glory to God for his coaching methods working, he is only giving credit to the Author of the principles he coaches by. More power to him.Natehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09613343734709426547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44604606420049246982007-02-05T18:27:00.000-05:002007-02-05T18:27:00.000-05:00I always wanted to be global.I always wanted to be global.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-2299745655099706612007-02-05T18:02:00.000-05:002007-02-05T18:02:00.000-05:00Well done Chipp... you've won this round.
I hope ...Well done Chipp... you've won this round.<br /><br />I hope you all realize that I was just trying to be [absolutely shamelessly] funny in trying to say why I don't think Nascar is a sport. I have no doubt in my mind that what those people do is something I could never do, and so I respect them for that. <br /><br />Sadly, for us non-Nascar fans, there's no way to deny it's immense popularity, and with ESPN constantly covering Nascar, it's hard to make the argument these days that it's not a sport. <br /><br />To wrap this up nicely, I think most Nascar drivers are probably better athletes than Rex Grossman, who should be next year's spokesperson for the "Life Comes at You Fast" ad campaign...<br /><br />And also, it'll be a great accomplishment when there's a Black Nascar driver who wins at Daytona or wins the chase.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-41303479403147425702007-02-05T17:35:00.000-05:002007-02-05T17:35:00.000-05:00Ironman Triathletes pee while competing; are they ...Ironman Triathletes pee while competing; are they not athletes?chipphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233463496650742328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-38340856320999736082007-02-05T17:32:00.000-05:002007-02-05T17:32:00.000-05:00*In the United States.
Some of us think globally ...*In the United States.<br /><br />Some of us think globally Dan. And NASCAR matters even less there. :) <br /><br />Hockey, otoh...rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-57405462111635626472007-02-05T17:11:00.000-05:002007-02-05T17:11:00.000-05:00I don't have nearly enough interest in NASCAR for ...I don't have nearly enough interest in NASCAR for this to devolve into a NASCAR-driven blog about whether they are athletes or not. Obviously, I love when Comments go the way you want them to (with exceptions, of course), but if you're never going to change your mind -- and the other guy is never going to change his mind -- you have to ask if it's worth it, after everyone has made their -- say -- 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds of points. This is not a rebuke of the guys who are in this NASCAR debate, but simply my take on it. For the record, I respect NASCAR and what it has built from virtually nothing into the No. 1 niche sport -- even ahead of the NBA, which as you know I consider a niche sport.Dan Shanoffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08126386161198401693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-7391725060494999192007-02-05T17:02:00.000-05:002007-02-05T17:02:00.000-05:00I still think racing would be more exciting if the...I still think racing would be more exciting if the 500 miles were linear. Raleigh to Daytona.<br /><br />One thing that does hurt hockey is that most Americans don't or can't skate. Well, it's not like any of us get to drive 200 mph to go pick up a loaf of bread, either.<br /><br />And a six-hour Monopoly game tests one's endurance, too.<br /><br />I agree that driving a car fast doesn't make you an athlete, even if you do it really fast. It helps to have good hand-eye coordination, but that helps in sewing, too, if you don't have a thimble.<br /><br />That doesn't mean a car race can't be exciting....of course that's part of its appeal....the same reason all sorts of races have appeal...horse races, the 100-meter dash, Indy.<br /><br />I wonder if ESPN would ever think to run 2 SportsCenters. One for what we're defining as "real" sports, and then one for games and races and competitions....Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-25440360448034976182007-02-05T17:01:00.000-05:002007-02-05T17:01:00.000-05:00@todd
I was just saying man. I wasn't trying to u...@todd<br />I was just saying man. I wasn't trying to use that as part of my argument. I was merely informing you of what I believe to be the way the urinate during the course of a race. I could be wrong.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-91665063240188914132007-02-05T16:56:00.000-05:002007-02-05T16:56:00.000-05:00@guyinthecorner
According to Merriam-Webster's Di...@guyinthecorner<br /><br />According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary Online, the definitions are as follows.<br /><br /><b>athlete</b>--<br />Function: noun<br />Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest<br /><b>: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina </b><br /><br /><b>sport</b>--Function: noun<br />1 a : a source of diversion : RECREATION b : sexual play c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) :<b> a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in</b><br />2 a : PLEASANTRY, JEST b : often mean-spirited jesting : MOCKERY, DERISION<br />3 a : <b>something tossed or driven about in or as if in play </b>b : LAUGHINGSTOCK<br />4 a : SPORTSMAN b : a person considered with respect to living up to the ideals of sportsmanship c : a companionable person<br />5 : an individual exhibiting a sudden deviation from type beyond the normal limits of individual variation usually as a result of mutation especially of somatic tissue<br /><br /><br />So by definition, an athlete is trained in sports. The fact that sport is used in the definition of athlete and athlete is used in the definition of sport completely negates your argument. NASCAR drivers are athletes therefore NASCAR is a sport, by definition.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-9651345865404759912007-02-05T16:45:00.001-05:002007-02-05T16:45:00.001-05:00The thing is that, yes, it really mattered when Ea...The thing is that, yes, it really mattered when Earnhardt couldn't win Daytona, and I put that in the same realm as Karl Malone not winning a championship.<br /><br />Hockey has pucks, not balls...solomonrexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03422035530978145136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-32231836757699572782007-02-05T16:45:00.000-05:002007-02-05T16:45:00.000-05:00@ Andy,
So Nascar drivers need a bag to be able t...@ Andy,<br /><br />So Nascar drivers need a bag to be able to pee? If that's what it takes, then there are tons of decrepit old people out should consider them athletes...<br /><br />Do you think, in his final days, Barbaro ever asked for a bag to pee in? No friggin' way.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-66791494829903105332007-02-05T15:53:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:53:00.000-05:00It's actually not my argument, it was invented by ...It's actually not my argument, it was invented by a group of sports historians to distinguish what was a sport, a cometition, a race, and a game.<br /><br />I didn't say that track runners weren't athletes. They are, eventhough what they do isn't a sport. If the same track runner was playing basketball he'd be playing a sport.<br /><br />Many people are athletes and many things are sports but they don't have to coincide.<br /><br />A NASCAR driver has to deal with alot of things and deals with his life in his hands?<br /><br />What about a fighter pilot? Life in hands: check. Controls alot of things: check.<br /><br />In fact fighter pilot is past the NASCAR driver on all scales. <br /><br />They might both be athletes. Neither might be athletes. I don't have a list of requirements for athletes. But if NASCAR is a sport so is trying to shoot down opposing aircraft.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-54763397528439851782007-02-05T15:50:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:50:00.000-05:00Ok, it can't be a sport without a ball.Ok, it can't be a sport without a ball.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44632894673180824072007-02-05T15:40:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:40:00.000-05:00Todd, I'm not sure but I think they have a bag in ...Todd, I'm not sure but I think they have a bag in there that they pee into. <br /><br />Guy: No, there isn't a difference between athletes and sports. In track you don't get any points for passing someone but we still consider sprinters and marathon runners athletes and we consider track a sport. YOur argument is flawed, majorly.Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44029506796087678762007-02-05T15:34:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:34:00.000-05:00Don't Nascar drivers just pee themselves if they h...Don't Nascar drivers just pee themselves if they have to go? I mean can any people really be considered high level athletes if they pee themselves? <br /><br />Did MJ pee himself? I think not...<br /><br />(Yes, I'm trying to be juvenile AND ridiculous)ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-87184414723183437242007-02-05T15:31:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:31:00.000-05:00Let's seperate two things.
Sports and athletes.
Th...Let's seperate two things.<br />Sports and athletes.<br />They aren't related. Not at all. Air Force fighter pilots are athletes but what they do is not a sport.<br /><br />The score requirement is during the game. Not a "chase". That does not count. You don't get a point for passing someone in NASCAR. Their are world chess rankings that involve points. That's not a score.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-47030585833766445652007-02-05T15:29:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:29:00.000-05:00All right, I'm not a big NASCAR fan but I gotta de...All right, I'm not a big NASCAR fan but I gotta defend it here a little. DO you guys have any idea how difficult it is to drive those cars? First of all, it's well over 120 degrees in those cars and theya re in them for over 4 hours. Secondly, think about this. THey are going 150-200 mph and doing turns in the process. That is a lot of G-forces going agasint them. Lastly, do you understand how difficult it is to turn a car going 200 mph?? Yes, the track is banked but that still doesn't turn the car on itself. I have the utmost respect for NASCAR drivers as athletes. It takes INCREDIBLE stamina. I can barely make 4 hours in a car without stopping to take a damn piss...Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02827851943831518318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-53321354609994561582007-02-05T15:26:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:26:00.000-05:00I like and play Golf, but you can never consider i...I like and play Golf, but you can never consider it a sport. When the top of your leaderboard could possibly be Michelle Wie, John Daly and let's say Fred Couples, you cannot call it a sport. A 16 year-old girl, a fat chainsmoker and a middle-aged guy with a bad back are not athletes.kirby077https://www.blogger.com/profile/04231901797267739313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-16454526379069914712007-02-05T15:23:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:23:00.000-05:00guyinthecorner, it has a score now, and I think go...guyinthecorner, it has a score now, and I think golf is starting a chase format, too.solomonrexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03422035530978145136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-58659102592049361342007-02-05T15:21:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:21:00.000-05:00Look, racing is one of the oldest sports, it's in ...Look, racing is one of the oldest sports, it's in every country on the planet, it's a lot more common than baseball, football and hockey.<br /><br />Do we really want to discuss effort in this context?<br /><br />Nascar drivers have to clutch, steer and work pedals for hours at a time, with their life on the line. Split second reflexes combined with real mortal danger combined with stamina. Is David Wells really more of an athlete? Vinateiri? Any golfer? Any closer in baseball? Any DH on steroids?<br /><br />I don't think so.solomonrexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03422035530978145136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-11152560644889927842007-02-05T15:19:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:19:00.000-05:00Technically it's only a sport if:
1. You can effe...Technically it's only a sport if:<br /><br />1. You can effect another competitor with your play (AKA defense)<br />2. Requires athletic movement<br />3. There is a score<br /><br />Golf: not a sport. you can't effect anybody else. therefore it falls into a second category called "competition" (AKA who can do something best independent of eachother)<br /><br />Hearts: it's a card game. no athletic movement but you can effect the other people and there's a score. without the athletic component it becomes a "game" (AKA soething you do in your spare time at a table)<br /><br />Nascar: it has no score, but a time. that makes it a "race" (AKA who can do something the fastest) not a sport. believe it or not that is a distinction.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-69382632499615576632007-02-05T15:18:00.000-05:002007-02-05T15:18:00.000-05:00Prince = Best Halftime Show Ever?!? Did you alread...Prince = Best Halftime Show Ever?!? Did you already forget about a little group called U2 playing in New Orleans after 9-11? Nothing can ever be compared to that performance. It was like a wake for the country's mourning.Mehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16627724005988711992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-67617210419494527802007-02-05T15:13:00.001-05:002007-02-05T15:13:00.001-05:00I'd watch Nascar if they had road races where the ...I'd watch Nascar if they had road races where the roads weren't closed off to regular drivers. It'd be awesome to see Nascar drivers have to outrace NYC cab drivers, compensate for LA road rage, or drive in Boston without getting hopelessly lost. You think Jeff Gordon could contemplate a rotary? I don't. <br /><br />Ah, who am I kidding, I'd never watch Nascar.ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.com