tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post8816351953612068199..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Thursday 02/15 A.M. Quickie:Tim Hardaway: All-Star... BigotUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-50551927463104944552007-02-16T09:37:00.000-05:002007-02-16T09:37:00.000-05:00Something I wanted to add in the wake of the Tim H...Something I wanted to add in the wake of the Tim Hardaway idiocy.<BR/><BR/>Discrimination and hatred are two things that will never, ever go away. Regardless of what any of you think about whether it's right or wrong, or your opinions of what was said or implied, this is something that is ingrained into the human subconscious on differing levels. While some people are better suited to suppress their natural human tendencies, others aren't, and in fact, some are more susceptible to these tendencies.<BR/><BR/>People will always be uncomfortable around people that are not like them, and will flock toward people who *are* like them. This also crosses racial and sexual preference barriers, as it spans across race, class, gender, sexual preference, entertainment, skill-set, lifestyle, and the list goes on and on. Every group of people that can be classified in any form is discriminated against by some other group, and also has a group that they discriminate against. Let's not forget that discrimination can be as simple and juvenile as "No, all my friends seats are saved at this table," and as complex and delusional as genocide.<BR/><BR/>That being said, there are also always going to be some that take their discrimination to the extreme, as they are unable to cope with and control their subconscious thoughts. These are the people who commit hate crimes and stir up others who are easily swayed into doing things they would otherwise not do.<BR/><BR/>So remember while we all debate about Tim Hardaway, and we attempt to eliminate discrimination and bigotry in our society, it's certainly not going anywhere. I, for one, will continue to behave in a way that I was taught to be right to the best of my ability, and hopefully I won't discriminate against someone I'm uncomfortable with, because they're different.FreKy Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06322127577984239799noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-2408678762614437672007-02-15T19:17:00.000-05:002007-02-15T19:17:00.000-05:00a couple of things...1. You don't choose sexual pr...a couple of things...<BR/><BR/>1. <B>You don't choose sexual preference.</B><BR/>If you woke up and decided to be heterosexual please tell me, cause you'd be the first. I don't think that homosexuals should hide it because they are ashamed, but being discriminated against is another story. This is way Tim Hardaway's comments are stupid. It IS LIKE SAYING "I hate Jews/Asians/Mexicans/Klingons" because it is how they were born.<BR/><BR/>2. this quote...<BR/><I>"I dont understand how you guys believe people are born gay. You are born with being a certain race, with being tall, having blue eyes, etc. What do all these traits have in common? IT COMES FROM YOUR PARENTS."</I><BR/>...was a top 10 dumbest thing I've ever read<BR/><BR/>Seriously. Have you ever seen a person who is tall and both of their parents are short??? Or a person who has blue eyes but their parents have brown eyes??? Blonde hair when they're dad has black and their mom has brown??? <BR/><BR/>Wow. Did you take 7th grade Biology? Don't even get me started on the idea that your dad could be gay and just be too scared to come out andyou'd never know. YOU CAN HIDE BEING GAY. UNLIKE BEING TALL.<BR/><BR/>And by the way, gay people can have kids and never tell anybody.<BR/><BR/>3. I'm a pretty religious Jew and when the bible says that homosexuality is an abomination to G-d it means only for men, and only the act, not the thoughts. The Torah takes into account that you can't control the thought, but that you can restain from the act. For religious Jews, homosexuality is looked on as being a great challenge that G-d chose for you to try to overcome. You can say that that's unfair but no one cares what you say.GuyInTheCornerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10281686811471557576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-29317664978151966812007-02-15T18:56:00.000-05:002007-02-15T18:56:00.000-05:00Not to beat a dead horse, but...Shadi, do you know...Not to beat a dead horse, but...<BR/><BR/>Shadi, do you know any gay people? If so, did they "choose" to be gay? I don't know of one gay person that I've ever met that has "chosen" to be gay.<BR/><BR/>I can't really applaud Hardaway for "being honest" because he used the word "hate". I don't have a problem with anyone expressing their opinion, as long as they don't use loaded or inflammatory phrases.<BR/><BR/>Other topics:<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be awesome if Oden and Durant got together and BOTH decided to stay for another year? And then OSU and TX could schedule each other? <BR/><BR/>The Hawkins thing was hilarious.<BR/><BR/>For me, American Idol is like alcohol - using it alone indicates that you have a problem...it should be reserved for social setting.The Roverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14466612618338867286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44300917115509292472007-02-15T18:40:00.000-05:002007-02-15T18:40:00.000-05:00Yow. What a day. I'm going to respond to several ...Yow. What a day. I'm going to respond to several things here all at one go.<BR/><BR/>1.<BR/><I>Is it bigotry when people hate Christians and the "religious right"?</I> <BR/><BR/>I've never understood where this comes from. Why do people always assume that if you call homophobia bigotry, which it is, that therefore you are also anti-Christian? No one hates Christians, except possibly certain terrorist cells. In all my years of going to gay-related events, I've never heard or seen one single anti-Christian message. (I have, however, seen more than my share of "God Hates Fags" signs. Everybody understands, however, that those folks are fringe and don't represent mainstream Christianity.)<BR/><BR/>In any case, this world contains a very large number of gay Christians. Christianity is possibly the least monolithic religion in the world--think about how dissimilar Pentecostalism and Russian Orthodoxy are. Therefore, saying anything about "Christians" in general is folly. Ditto for gays and lesbians.<BR/><BR/>2.<BR/><I>Just curious but does anyone know if Meech is the pitcher or the catcher. I have no idea why I want to know this but I think it makes a difference.</I><BR/><BR/>If you promise never to ask this again, I promise not to ask if you lick your girlfriend's privates. It's just rude, dude.<BR/><BR/>3.<BR/><I> I dont understand how you guys believe people are born gay.</I><BR/><BR/>Your body makes these things called "hormones." Perhaps you've heard of them. Your hormones make your body go into "Sex!" mode when you see a hot woman. Sometimes they do that, as I'm sure you've experienced, without any input from your brain, and at exceptionally inconvenient times. Well, mine do the same thing, only for a hot man. Do you remember choosing which hormones you got? Neither do I. Honestly, if I could have, I would have put "return to sender" on the ones I got--I like children, and women seem to like me, and I find gay culture tedious sometimes.markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02367754765898020281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-64521021007000813462007-02-15T18:24:00.000-05:002007-02-15T18:24:00.000-05:00Dan, nice interview, I learned a lot of things I d...Dan, nice interview, I learned a lot of things I didn't know about you. You mention that your biggest dissapointment is that your blog doesn't see nearly the amount of traffic the DQ did. You attribute it to people not "knowing" about the blog, but I don't think that is the case. The people who read the Quickie and are still following your Blog, either enjoy your writing or they want to be you (danmega, bigd, cmfost). Many people I'm sure followed the Quickie because it was something to do from 9-10 everyday that made their 9-5 job one hour shorter. With the blog it takes 2 minutes to read your daily post and then they have to find something else to keep them occupied. People enjoyed talking about sports but the name Dan Shanoff meant nothing to them, you could of (and have been) replaced by anyone (Buzzmaster) and they would of followed all the same. To you the writing on the Blog feels like the same as the Quickie, but it's totally different. People could post and see responses by you and others seconds later directly to their comments. On the blog you post at 7am and people can post whenever they want throughout the day, and maybe once every 100 posts, you will respond to someone, most of the time hours later. People got used to chatting between 9-10 everyday to kill time, with the blog they can't do that. People like to feel that others are reading what they have to say and responding realtime. 99.9% of people who make blogs, post for a few days/weeks/months before they come to the realization that nobody gives a shit what they think. The other reason why people don't follow the blog is that many don't like your writing style. With the Quickie it was a quick sentence here or there in response to posts. On the blog they read paragraphs of your writing and are turned off because frankly at times you come off as a cocky son-of-a-bitch. My buddy who used to follow the Quickie religiously tried out the blog for a few weeks before telling me he was "tired of your condescending style". Of course he doesn't enjoy talking about TV shows or food on Buzzmaster chats either so he's kind of still hanging out there waiting for something better to come along. I know this turned into a really long post, I just wanted to provide you some insight as to why the blog is totally different and why your readerbase has dropped off sharply.Kurthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14615862536072857322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-80811912064135600672007-02-15T18:20:00.000-05:002007-02-15T18:20:00.000-05:00I guess I should have been a little clearer. You d...I guess I should have been a little clearer. You do not choose your sexual preference. It is not a choice of lifestyle. I suppose one could choose to hide or repress it, but why should homosexuals in particular have to do that?oasiserfedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119941281241359976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-43541033028689757972007-02-15T17:28:00.000-05:002007-02-15T17:28:00.000-05:00I swear, if I see the words "choice" and "gay" in ...<I>I swear, if I see the words "choice" and "gay" in the same sentence again, I'm gonna break something.....</I><BR/><BR/>Gay people face a difficult choice in whether to come out or not...<BR/><BR/>Sorry...couldn't help myself.kway34https://www.blogger.com/profile/14882068040215255090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-91535152318728232007-02-15T17:23:00.000-05:002007-02-15T17:23:00.000-05:00I dont understand how you guys believe people are ...I dont understand how you guys believe people are born gay. You are born with being a certain race, with being tall, having blue eyes, etc. What do all these traits have in common? IT COMES FROM YOUR PARENTS. Being gay is certainly a choice. I am not looking down on homosexuality nor do I treat them differently. But please, dont tell they are born gay. Many people, in fact probably all, chose to be gay becuase they are attracted to the same sex.alhajirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09875436085082971884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-45199469509471506802007-02-15T17:04:00.000-05:002007-02-15T17:04:00.000-05:00@oasiserfedeWhy would you break something over som...@oasiserfede<BR/><BR/>Why would you break something over something that is unproven. Sexuality has never been proven choice or science and never will be. If you want to break something over someone expressing a different view then you then you might want see a pyschologist.DPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578317528757744169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-51747111421329807942007-02-15T17:02:00.000-05:002007-02-15T17:02:00.000-05:00@ rafael, thanks for being more inquisitive as to ...@ rafael, thanks for being more inquisitive as to my reason for defense than dave was. He seems to think you can judge a person by one statement (by his implication that I am ignorant because of a post). I do not.<BR/><BR/>It COULD have something to do with his past. We don't know if someone made a pass at him as a child or whatever. But we are so quick to call him ignorant just because we disagree with him. This is the weak man's defense if you ask me. There is nothing wrong with not liking someone because of their sexuality. If you find it morally reprehensible it doesn't make you ignorant or stupid. It simply indicates that you have a different moral standard. While others like to pat themselves on the back and give all their support to gays, Hardaway does not buy that ideology. And do not be fooled: blind faith in someone because of their sexual attraction makes you and buy into an ideology. The media says: if you do not like gays , you are ignorant, when really, if you do not like gays, it is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Just because someone does not abide by your standards does not make them ignorant. It makes them opinionated. EVERYONE is entitled his or her opinion. I believe in God, but I do not believe that someone who doesn't is ignorant. But if they attack my belief, I feel they are being a menace. Hardaway was attacking no one's belief, but just stating his own. He acknowledged that his nature is different than the main stream and he knew it would stir up some people. Not everyone does exactly what society wants them to and if anything Hardaway is doing his own thing and not going into the gay-worship that many in society are doing. Personally, sexuality means nothing to me, but some people get offended by it.DPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06578317528757744169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-35497792189679478782007-02-15T16:41:00.000-05:002007-02-15T16:41:00.000-05:00You know what's also kinda weird....we're talking ...You know what's also kinda weird....we're talking about "Christians" and "the religious right", and yet we're making blanket statements about them just as people were making blanket statements about gays.<BR/><BR/>And not just in the "a real Christian would be accepting of a person for who he is, gay, straight, or tax collector." In fact, we're led to assume the opposite, that the Christians are the ones hating the gays.<BR/><BR/>Either way, it's like the word Christian is being turned into a stereotype, too. <BR/><BR/>How's that for some weird shit?<BR/><BR/>Anywayzzz....Amaechi seems like a nice guy. Hardaway seems like a jerkoff. Nevertheless, that's only two people....not a blanket description of homosexuals or black people in general. Gee, how difficult was that?Brian in Oxfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16053368055698118199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-90728592511708545332007-02-15T16:24:00.000-05:002007-02-15T16:24:00.000-05:00Who said Tim Hardaway was part of the religious ri...Who said Tim Hardaway was part of the religious right?<BR/><BR/>Look, people are entitled to their views. That's not the problem, the problem is when these views are based on hate. <BR/><BR/>I'm not so much angry at Tim Hardaway (he was being honest... dumb, but honest)... I'm just sad that we still live in a culture where people feel this way (you know Tim Hardaway isn't the only one who feels this way). <BR/><BR/>The problem of the extreme homophobia in sports seems to me to be a sad catch 22, in that because there is such a culture of homophobia, that a culture of homophobia is allowed to exist. <BR/><BR/>I just don't get WHY people have something against gays? I always hear people saying they feel awkward seeing two men or two women showing affection for each other in public. Well you know what, I come from an interracial family, and no doubt that made people uncomfortable back when my parents were dating. Also, don't you feel a little uncomfortable seeing anyone making out in public? <BR/><BR/>I've never had anyone, ANYONE, tell me that their quality of marriage has decreased since gay marriage was allowed in Massachusetts. <BR/><BR/>So I ask again, WHY, in this age, do people hate gays?!?ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-90902189865684144212007-02-15T16:19:00.000-05:002007-02-15T16:19:00.000-05:00I swear, if I see the words "choice" and "gay" in ...I swear, if I see the words "choice" and "gay" in the same sentence again, I'm gonna break something.....oasiserfedehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119941281241359976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-75801903775266201412007-02-15T15:47:00.000-05:002007-02-15T15:47:00.000-05:00I just love it how people are incorrectly assuming...I just love it how people are incorrectly assuming that Tim Hardaway part of the Religious Right because of his comments. Stereotypes are for bigots.Megahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14407561625097289402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-20920422763080151762007-02-15T15:43:00.000-05:002007-02-15T15:43:00.000-05:00How would Tim Hardaway have responded if a former ...How would Tim Hardaway have responded if a former white player (Danny Ainge - if Ainge wasn't in a management position) came out and said he "hates all blacks."<BR/><BR/>Say what you want about gays and how uncomfortable you feel around them, but the fact remains that it's not a lifestyle choice. You don't go into your closet and decide - today I'll wear the blue suit and like cock. <BR/><BR/>You don't get to chose your race, and you don't chose your sexual identity either. So yeah Hardaway is entitled to say he isn't comfortable around gays - but saying you hate an entire group of individuals is inexcusable.<BR/><BR/>This wouldn't fly if it was Curt Schilling saying he couldn't pitch for the Red Sox anymore because he "hates the Asians."<BR/><BR/>Sorry I'm a proponent of free speech, but not of hate speech and that's what Hardaway did there.<BR/><BR/>And yes the same thing applies to Michael Richards.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00617207710938001790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-36478799671029919122007-02-15T15:36:00.000-05:002007-02-15T15:36:00.000-05:00Bluebird, I understand your points but...what, exa...Bluebird, I understand your points but...<BR/>what, exactly, could have possibly happened for Hardaway to hate all gays? <BR/>There's no reason for that.<BR/><BR/>And I don't know that the 'religious right' is hated. Definitely pitied. It does cause a large amount of bewilderment to see adults acting with no minds of their own.rafaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09286062038193331350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-3521776630195000892007-02-15T15:17:00.000-05:002007-02-15T15:17:00.000-05:00Alright, I'm a huge BC fan, who is now ready to co...Alright, I'm a huge BC fan, who is now ready to come out of hiding for the day... <BR/><BR/>Dudley was sick, or there was something bothering him. I realize for most casual fans this was the only time they've seen him play this year, but there was something clearly wrong with him. He usually outhustles everyone, misses his free throws long, and runs the court on transition D. He did none of that last night, and there's a rumor around BC that he was sick. <BR/><BR/>As for the refs, I thought they weren't great. But as a BC fan, we didn't lose the game because of the refs, we lost it because John Oates can't play defense in the post. <BR/><BR/>And by the way, calling the BC kids thugs is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard (and in my experience usually rooted in racism). If you ever actually met Jared Dudley, listened to him talk, or knew anything about him, you'd know he's about the furthest thing from a thug as it gets. Just because people have tatoos, aren't white, and don't go to Duke doesn't make them thugs. <BR/><BR/>Dudley and Marshall may have been complaining to the refs, but if they crossed the line, they'd have been T'd up. Having gone to BC and seen them both play numerous occassions, usually when they talk to officials (especially Dudley), they are just presenting their case in front of the ref, nothing that most head coaches don't do). I thought on most of the calls they complained over, they had a valid point, and I applaud the refs for at least hearing them out. <BR/><BR/>As for Tim Hardaway, he's a fu**ing moron, but sadly I know there are a lot of people out there who think just like him. <BR/><BR/>I just don't get it, what's the problem people have with gay people? Seriously, all this talk about it "destroying the family," etc. is ridiculous. For those who are married, has your marriage been ruined since gay people can get married in Massachusetts? Of course not. What's the problem?ToddTheJackasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333015679479284215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-56239790444884853052007-02-15T15:10:00.000-05:002007-02-15T15:10:00.000-05:00What Tim Hardaway said personally disturbs me and ...What Tim Hardaway said personally disturbs me and actually upset me quite a bit. He had every right to make those comments, it’s his right as an American, and if that is his actual feelings then he’s entitled.<BR/><BR/>However, what upsets me is the fact that he “hates all gays”, prejudging all homosexuals before even meeting them. As an African American, his people were subjected to a high level of prejudice and treatment that still exists in some parts of this country. Fortunately, homosexuals are not treated with the same degree of oppression and hatred African Americans had to endear while this country came to their senses. <BR/><BR/>No matter who you are; race, religion, national origin, sexuality, etc should never be your sole basis for hatred of a human being. <BR/><BR/>The sad reality is that all these prejudices still exist. Unfortunately we haven’t ridded them, and there are many people that find homosexuals appalling or bad merely because they are associated with not being manly or what a “normal” person should be.<BR/><BR/>Last year my brother, during his senior year of high school, came out. Never have I seen such horrible the treatment of someone that I have been close to. He remained strong and endeared the horrible treatment of some classmates whose actions were more cowardly than his courageous decision to be himself at a time in life when being yourself is something that most people don’t do in fear of not being accepted.<BR/><BR/>Statements by an All Star basketball player like Tim Hardaway, who still can be impressionable on today’s youth, only impede the acceptance of homosexuals in society. As a public figure he should be careful in how he states his views, no matter how heartfelt they are.<BR/><BR/>Joe (Dayton)Trey (formerly TF)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16016679366233865869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-49686078375339757312007-02-15T15:06:00.000-05:002007-02-15T15:06:00.000-05:00future,I started off by saying I didn't watch the ...future,<BR/><BR/>I started off by saying I didn't watch the entire game as I was flipping back and forth. But in the parts I did see it seemed to me the "typical" Duke game where they get all the calls despite being on the road. I wasn't making any comments on the game at a whole because I didn't watch the game start to finish. I also saw BC playing extremely sloppy at times as well. Did the officating affect the outcome? who knows. All I said is the parts that I saw seemed to be the "typical Duke officiating". That's it. I wasn't making any statements about whether BC was robbed or not. <BR/><BR/>And what does it say about the officiating at Duke games that you knew someone would comment on it?jhawkjjmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18297634924511036895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-57861852385485383772007-02-15T14:37:00.000-05:002007-02-15T14:37:00.000-05:00Tim Hardaway.The guy is an idiot but so are the ma...Tim Hardaway.<BR/><BR/>The guy is an idiot but so are the majority of pro basketball players. I realize that people are born gay and that 3 or 4% of our population are probably homosexual. They have a right to do what they want. <BR/><BR/>That being said, I find seeing two men kiss kind of repulsive. I am not really into the whole lesbian thing either. Some guys get the impression from watching porn that most lesbians are hot babes wearing high heels and garters. Most are butchy looking women who look more like Rosie or Ellen than Brittany Spears. <BR/><BR/>I think most heterosexual men have a primal inherent disgust at the thought of any sexual contact with another man. I know I do. From an intellectual point of view, I will defend any gay person's basic rights but that doesn't mean I want to watch them.CycleDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08933822029791530613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-12897480202100997442007-02-15T14:31:00.000-05:002007-02-15T14:31:00.000-05:00OSU's not a 1 because they lost to Florida and UNC...<I>OSU's not a 1 because they lost to Florida and UNC. Unless they win out from here on in (including the Big Ten tourney), they won't and shouldn't be a 1.</I><BR/><BR/>OSU lost to the consensus #1 team in the country and a top 5 team and because of that they're not a #1?? OSU probably has the best 3 losses in CBB at the moment (AT UNC sans Oden, AT Fla, AT Wisky). They didn't lose to Va Tech (twice!) they didn't lose to Stanford or WVU, they didn't lose to Florida State and they didn't lose to Missouri State. If they win out regular season they're a #1 easily.kway34https://www.blogger.com/profile/14882068040215255090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-50022485694166913772007-02-15T14:24:00.000-05:002007-02-15T14:24:00.000-05:00When I first heard this radio segment I thought wo...When I first heard this radio segment I thought wow he must either be retarded or just British. I mean the reporter gave him the out and he still insisted that he should make a fool of himself. The subject is of non of my concern because "not that there is anything wrong with that" and also because "everyone one of us has a gay uncle. You know from that part of the family that nobody wants to talk about. I got a gay uncle we call him Aunt tom."( For those who didn't get that it's from a Chris Rock skit. I also really didn't know it was possible for someone to put both of their feet in their mouth at the same time. Apparently you can and now I can positivly say that Hardaways's IQ is about as high as the number on the back of his Jerseyrudapswonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06736411014497025420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-21328315469835215732007-02-15T14:02:00.000-05:002007-02-15T14:02:00.000-05:00By the way, I'll be chiming in on Hardaway later t...By the way, I'll be chiming in on Hardaway later today. But let's just say <A HREF="http://bigd29x.blogspot.com/2006/06/we-dont-need-no-stinkin-first.html" REL="nofollow">my views haven't changed much</A> since Ozzie Guillen caught a bunch of crap for doing essentially the same thing.<BR/><BR/>Very glad to see BC trip over their own feet last night. I was admittedly flipping stations between the Eagles looking like a bottom-dwelling team in the MVC rather than the #1 team in the ACC, and the Celtics finally remembering how to hold a lead. But i did see enough of the BC game to know that they were pretty much out of the game, mentally and physically, from tip-off.<BR/><BR/>Funny - lot of talk today in Boston about the Celtics making a trade to acquire a veteran player, meaning they'd have a <I>worse</I> shot at the Oden/Durant lottery...? Does this make sense to anyone?Big Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11478232002387175988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-24482186287585845172007-02-15T13:48:00.001-05:002007-02-15T13:48:00.001-05:00I was going to say to disregard previous post abou...I was going to say to disregard previous post about OSU being a 1. I turned the game off with a 20 point Buckeye lead and didn't realize until this morning that they nearly blew it. I guess I should check ESPN before checking this BLOG.<BR/><BR/>But seriously, they are the #2 team in the nation, they have 3 losses, all on the road, and all to teams that were top 5 at the time. Losses to Florida, Wisconsin, and North Carolina -- two without Oden, and one when he was just back and not in a groove yet, should not keep them from being a # 1. But to say they shouldn't be a #1 unless they win out goes for just about anyone. If Florida loses in the first round of the SEC tourney, should they still be a # 1? That's just ridiculous!Natsfan74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02774593132826810650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-30107780574526444642007-02-15T13:33:00.000-05:002007-02-15T13:33:00.000-05:00jhawkjim I do not even know were to start with wha...jhawkjim I do not even know were to start with what you wrote. I guess you missed it when Jared Dudley threw Dave McClure to the ground and did not get whistled. How about all the jaw jacking that Sean Marshall and Jared Dudley were doing the entire game to the refs. Everytime there was a whistle blown those two were in a refs ear. You would assume that Duke built that big lead by camping out at the free throw line and you would be wrong. BC attempted 28 free throws and Duke attempted 10.<BR/><BR/>I knew when I was watching the game last night that somebody would say that the refs favor Duke. You know why BC got beat, they made stupid mistakes and did not play with any urgency until it was to late. There were a number of times that Duke had a break in which only one BC player was back to defend.futurelegendvinceyounghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10321227142567411487noreply@blogger.com