tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post996824625044054443..comments2024-03-17T03:18:56.070-04:00Comments on Dan Shanoff: Friday 11/16 A.M. Quickie:Bonds, Oregon, A-Rod, Ricky, Picks, More!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger129125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-52402937120885493342007-11-17T01:16:00.000-05:002007-11-17T01:16:00.000-05:00GO BUCKS.GO BUCKS.Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11087094908297676378noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-44457093227386286202007-11-16T17:39:00.000-05:002007-11-16T17:39:00.000-05:00There is no "i" in team, but there is one in quitt...There is no "i" in team, but there is one in quitter.BLUEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547964589052140083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-32283402658400050182007-11-16T17:25:00.000-05:002007-11-16T17:25:00.000-05:00Um, you called us all "Bonds defenders" dude, when...Um, you called us all "Bonds defenders" dude, when in fact, none of us were defending Bonds -- just disagreeing with you. There's a difference. <BR/><BR/>Do I think Bonds cheated? Hell yes. Do I think he is the only one? Hell no. Do I think MLB did ANYTHING to try to stop it until recently? Not even close. And because MLB weren't testing, you, me, and everybody else has no FACTUAL basis to do any of that shit. We're all entitled to our opinions, but just because we're PROBABLY right doesn't mean we can just go erasing history. <BR/><BR/>I can imagine you'd be a lot of fun at an actual trial. "B-b-b-ut he LOOOKS so GUILTY! HANG HIM!"hutlockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02383359405494669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-17140691628126752812007-11-16T16:33:00.000-05:002007-11-16T16:33:00.000-05:00should be "I didn't memorize..."should be "I didn't memorize..."verbal97https://www.blogger.com/profile/02282148454169067288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-58501990370127223122007-11-16T16:32:00.000-05:002007-11-16T16:32:00.000-05:00@toby, steve:what heat??? Again, my opinion isn't...@toby, steve:<BR/><BR/>what heat??? Again, my opinion isn't going to change. I realize that they're not going to change the record back to Aaron, all I'm saying is that they SHOULD. Move on losers.<BR/><BR/>@marco regarding Ortiz:<BR/><BR/>I heard it about six months ago. Surprisingly, I memorize where I saw it. It could be and likely is untrue, but my original statement of I would bet on Ortiz being named above ARod (the "I" being the operative word) was an opinion based on this rumor I heard a few months back.verbal97https://www.blogger.com/profile/02282148454169067288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-74208319842090199782007-11-16T16:27:00.000-05:002007-11-16T16:27:00.000-05:00Got cut off...And because MLB did nothing that mea...Got cut off...<BR/><BR/>And because MLB did nothing that means they are happy with the stats and records (and the money that rolled in).<BR/><BR/>So, as fans, we're stuck with accepting them as well.TBenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337905315011989614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-76711538909156595802007-11-16T16:25:00.000-05:002007-11-16T16:25:00.000-05:00I am far from a Bonds' defender.I just know that t...I am far from a Bonds' defender.<BR/><BR/>I just know that the MLB itself played a huge role in the PED era, beginning by ignoring Fay Vincent's memo from 1991.TBenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337905315011989614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-11452970400009974332007-11-16T16:05:00.000-05:002007-11-16T16:05:00.000-05:00verbal obviously couldn't take all the heat...grow...verbal obviously couldn't take all the heat...grow up young manDeluxehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933899716100784161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-90208225344670985002007-11-16T15:43:00.000-05:002007-11-16T15:43:00.000-05:00"no matter what you call me or how much up Bonds' ..."no matter what you call me or how much up Bonds' ass your head is."<BR/><BR/>This is a very awkward sentence Douchebag. I think it would have been much smoother if it went something like: "no matter how far your head is stuck up Bonds' ass..."<BR/><BR/>Of course, this blog would be much smoother if you were not here, but that's another story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-61936176220731374542007-11-16T15:03:00.000-05:002007-11-16T15:03:00.000-05:00I'm coming in late today, so I'll be quick. Dan, I...I'm coming in late today, so I'll be quick. Dan, I gotta be contentious a little here...<BR/><BR/>Tim Tebow as Heisman leader? For a 7-3 UF team that's <I>maybe</I> in the SEC title hunt?<BR/><BR/>How is that worse than an 8-2 Oregon team that is <I>most likely</I> headed for the Rose Bowl? My point is, Dixon still deserves consideration as much as/more than Tebow.<BR/><BR/>I'm sure this has been beaten to death in the comments, but I had to <BR/>be heard.<BR/><BR/>Other stuff...<BR/><BR/>Jeter? Hello? Of the 18 million Florida "residents", try about 50% are probably living somewhere else from at least May through September. Why do you think they are called "snow birds"?<BR/><BR/>And not for nothing, but doesn't Jeter's occupation/employer sort of predicate where he spends a lot of time (i.e., New York)? Doesn't mean he has to reside their officially. Hell, if you question Jeter, you BETTER question the whole Steinbrenner/Tampa compound.<BR/><BR/>(Disclosure- I'm a Red Sox fan and I just defended Jeter. I think I just threw up in my mouth.)<BR/><BR/>There's so many ways to analyze this, but I find it somewhat interesting that Fred Taylor just ran for 10,000 yards after 10 years and 121 games, and LT is doing it in, oh, 3 years and a full season less (in number of games terms). I think that durability issue for Taylor makes him less likely to be HOF-bound, whereas LT will probably be in- even if their numbers were frozen today. LT's prominent TD lead over Taylor is just undebatable. <BR/><BR/>To think, a couple years ago Ricky Williams was considered more evil than Barry Bonds, Jason Giambi, Pac-Man Jones, and every Cincinnati Bengal combined. Welcome back Rick.Jingoisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01269679565181077961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-74217438716610675332007-11-16T14:57:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:57:00.000-05:00Where are we, in church? Who cares about a few co...Where are we, in church? Who cares about a few colorful words?marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-41027848374800732852007-11-16T14:54:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:54:00.000-05:00oops..which I do agree with...my badoops..which I <B>do</B> agree with...my badDeluxehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933899716100784161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-39072391424240338472007-11-16T14:52:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:52:00.000-05:00verbal...c'mon now. we don't need language like t...verbal...c'mon now. we don't need language like that. just because Steve called you a douchebag...which I don't agree with by the way...doesn't mean you need to fly off the handle.Deluxehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933899716100784161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-36674371015571642882007-11-16T14:50:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:50:00.000-05:00@ verbalWhat you're suggesting doesn't fall under ...<I>@ verbal</I><BR/><BR/>What you're suggesting doesn't fall under 'bonds defense'. It's rewriting the record books, which simply isn't going to happen. No matter how many people complain about it.<BR/><BR/>If he had failed a MLB test, he would've been suspended. Thus preventing the record. The fact that there were no tests or that he passed doesn't change the ball sailing over the fences.<BR/><BR/>His legacy will forever be tainted, as will his numbers. But, they will still be in the record books.<BR/><BR/>---------<BR/>Still waiting for your Ortiz allegations. Your dreams do not count as 'rumors'.<BR/><BR/><I>Perhaps there's more to the reason in how he went from an ok hitter in the hitter's paradise "Homerdome" to a powerhouse at Fenway.</I><BR/><BR/>You're right, his name is Manny Ramirez.marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-58121706384798727402007-11-16T14:27:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:27:00.000-05:00so does Mattingly finally get in if we wipe out th...so does Mattingly finally get in if we wipe out the record books? i just know how much of a hot topic that was in here.David Kippehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09873631867494898033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-48848726047140484732007-11-16T14:21:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:21:00.000-05:00Wow, I'm surprised there are this many Bonds' defe...Wow, I'm surprised there are this many Bonds' defenders here. But you won't change my opinion no matter what you call me or how much up Bonds' ass your head is.verbal97https://www.blogger.com/profile/02282148454169067288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-43794252779045549852007-11-16T14:01:00.000-05:002007-11-16T14:01:00.000-05:00lmao @ scuby stevelmao @ scuby stevemarcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-23575706660926554262007-11-16T13:47:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:47:00.000-05:00@tbender, verbal:Agreed with tbender. You can't ju...@tbender, verbal:<BR/><BR/>Agreed with tbender. You can't just say "take the records away from anyone who cheated." Its patently ridiculous, especially since there were no tests for any PEDs going on back then. What, you're gonna re-write history based on what a guy LOOKS like now? "He looks like he did 'roids, so I think he did, so take away his records." I understand you're mad, but just THINK about how insane that sounds. <BR/><BR/>NEVER gonna happen and it shouldn't either -- there simply is no enforcable proof. Bonds STILL hasn't failed an MLB drug test, and players that have aren't anywhere near the record books anyway. To me, what you're talking about would be a far bigger travesty than letting Bonds keep the record.hutlockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02383359405494669997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-8918508842925776112007-11-16T13:41:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:41:00.000-05:00verbal97<A HREF="http://www.brooklynsucks.com/wp-content/db.jpg" REL="nofollow">verbal97</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-90588978497816529442007-11-16T13:37:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:37:00.000-05:00now now steve, we play nice here.now now steve, we play nice here.Deluxehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01933899716100784161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-80290039081478841222007-11-16T13:36:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:36:00.000-05:00GO BUCKS!!!Ohio State 24TSUN 13GO BUCKS!!!<BR/><BR/>Ohio State 24<BR/>TSUN 13Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11071405721004631626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-21223491041346613892007-11-16T13:32:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:32:00.000-05:00verbal97 has a real idealistic view of the sports ...verbal97 has a real idealistic view of the sports world.<BR/><BR/><BR/>It's all puppy dog tails and dandy lions, hu dipshit?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-74682280330192881802007-11-16T13:03:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:03:00.000-05:00Verbal:Anyone who cheated?You've just wiped out ML...Verbal:<BR/><BR/>Anyone who cheated?<BR/><BR/>You've just wiped out MLB records from 1995 to present.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Plus, then you'd have to close down MLB offices for it's complicity in the crimes. (The $6 billion in revenue this year didn't come cleanly.)TBenderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10337905315011989614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-33924454361994419602007-11-16T13:02:00.000-05:002007-11-16T13:02:00.000-05:00A few years ago, a reporter asked Schilling if he ...A few years ago, a reporter asked Schilling if he would go to the Rockies -- since at the time he was more of a FB pitcher and would probably be ok in that park.<BR/><BR/>Schilling's response was that in the end, baseball is a game of numbers, and certain numbers are revered throughout history. He thought he could win games in Coors field, but the numbers he was worried about were ERA and Ks -- two things sure to be hurt by that park. <BR/><BR/>I think that Schilling is right -- baseball is a game of numbers and certain numbers are revered more than others. But, that doesn't make it possible to retroactively change anyone's numbers. And, before Bonds ever started taking steroids (assuming the reports are correct), he was already having a HoF career. So, does he go in the hall with those numbers as his career? <BR/><BR/>Given that there's no where to ever end this, the numbers will stick. And, baseball, will have to get over being a game of numbers a little bit. It's no different now (PED era) than in the past in the Negro League era or the dead ball/ live ball era or whatever. Certain players accomplish things that will stand as a record, regardless if they did it without cheating, against the very best competition available, and under the same rules as those who came before him.Natsfan74https://www.blogger.com/profile/02774593132826810650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33624629.post-59662401716032088762007-11-16T12:54:00.000-05:002007-11-16T12:54:00.000-05:00I haven't seen anything of the sort about Ortiz, a...I haven't seen anything of the sort about Ortiz, and I surf a LOT. Please post any link you have.marcomarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17507640418000407851noreply@blogger.com