Thursday, November 23, 2006

Thanksgiving Weekend Football Live-Comment Tailgate!

Happy Thanksgiving! If you're online and checking the blog out, be sure to weigh in on Thursday's NFL games (and, if I can't get online, Friday's college football games, too!) Mmm...tryptophans... -- D.S.

129 comments:

Travis said...

While laying awake in bed sick last nite and unable to sleep, I had this great Idea for the NFL

u know how the NFL has been wanting to play more and more international games? But teams are reluctent to give up a home date?

Well since 9/11 the Super Bowl the last Sunday of January isnt a facor anymore so I say add a 17th game for every team and each team will play 1 neutral site game a season then for thye time being you split 8 of these new 16 games between international sites and cities wanting teams like San Antonio, Toronto, Mexico City, CHina, England and so forth, then you stick 8 games in Los Angelas until such a time as you get that city its own team, the NFL is expanding the game to places it wants and no team is giving up a home date.

sigszilla said...

I like the idea, for the most part. Since football has by far passed every other sport as America's favorite, it couldn't hurt to send teams into other cities, both here and abroad. I'm not sure LA is the right answer, I think they've actually come to like not having a team now. Almost like they want everyone to feel sorry for them. Now they just need to get rid of that stupid two-week layoff between the league championship games and the Super Bowl.

Brian - Beacon, NY said...

Good 'ole Joey Harrington! Trying to force a pass and assuring the Dolphins don't get at least 3 before the half. The best part is how mellow the announcers sounded when it happened. They didn't even seem surprised, "And there it is" was the quote I believe. Sad when everyone expects him to deliver the INT and he does. Hooray for being a Dolphins fan

sigszilla said...

I loved it, too, how the studio crew was touting his 'mobility.' That's not the first trait that comes to mind when I think 'Joey Harrington.'

Brian - Beacon, NY said...

So, who picked up Romo this week and started him for their QB? I'll tell you. This guy right here.

nep1293 said...

Also a Romo starter...

Tony Romo = Tom Brady???

Smack said...

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa...

Yes, Romo's had a nice run, and he is currently among the top-rated quarterbacks in the NFL.

But comparisons to Tom Brady are premature. When Romo wins a Super Bowl, then we'll compare.

Brian - Beacon, NY said...

Yea, like smack said. Romo's been playing pretty good, but he hasn't won a Super Bowl yet. Don't turn into Shanoff and make this instant history :-)

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Did anyone else see that the replay official from the Oklahoma-Oregon game admitted that he saw that Oklahoma recovered the ball but--for some reason--couldn't tell that to the officials on the field when they asked who recovered the ball. Ummm... what?

It's a good thing I'm not an Oklahoma fan; I probably would have committed suicide today.

#1MavsFan said...

I'd like to personally voice my disgust at the NFL Network and being unable to watch the Broncos game this evening.

#1MavsFan said...

Troy ~

I find a lot to like in that admission. Living on the Arkansas/Oklahoma border and being a U of A alum, I can't can't the Sooners.

Any thoughts on the "big" game next week?

nep1293 said...

I was just comparing the similarities between Romo and Brady. Brady was a low round pick, Romo was undrafted. Both replace Bledsoe on teams that weren't doing anything. Both became instant spark plugs when given the starting job. Just saying...

WuzUpG said...

Its about time you jumped on the Romo bus. I've had Romo on my fantasy team for the past 4 weeks!

Big D said...

Quite proud of myself for benching Tony Romo AND Terry Glenn today in favor of Chris Chambers & Jake Delhomme.

But at least I had Troy Aikman on my side in his commentary today...


Troy Aikman: "Well , if you have Tony Romo on your fantasy team, you're probably having a pretty good Thanksgiving. Even more, if you have Terry Glenn too."

Fuck you Troy. Why don't you go ram your head into a wall and try for another concussion.

Mike said...

Was it just me, or did the production value on the Broncos-Chiefs game look really bad?

And since someone else started the fantasy talk, move of the day: Dropping Detroit's kicker for KC's kicker 12 hours before the Lions kicked off.

RexyBack said...

Was anyone else at their parents/grandparents for Thanksgiving dinner who basically have no need for expansive cable packages that include the NFL Network?

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

None of the games were any good... so... it was perfect! Turkey + gravy + stuffing + fixins = a long nap. Plus, this way, we can enjoy Black Friday, College Football Saturday, NFL Sunday, and Monday Night Football. By Tuesday, the tryptophan will have worn off, and we'll be ready for the rest of the shitty work week.

Doc Spender said...

I've been a Cowboys fan my entire life (yeah, I'm old enough to have seen their first season) and I have to say that Romo has been pretty damned good... but I'm pretty sure that my Mom would be more mobile than Bledsoe was and she's been dead for three years, so it's not hard for Romo to look better than Drew. That said, I agree with a LOT of people here who say it isn't even NEAR the point where we compare Romo to Brady. If The Cowboys win a Super Bowl or three with Romo THEN I'll not question his Hall of Fame credentials.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Any thoughts on the "big" game next week?

Yeah, three:

(1) I'm scared shitless that Arkansas is gonna whoop us. Bad.

And (2) even if we win, I doubt we can do it by enough to impress the pollsters, especially if (3) LSU beats Arkansas today.

Basically, the BCS strikes again, as right now I'm just as big a Notre Dame and Arkansas fan as I am a Gator fan.

Boscolicious said...

No live game on the NFL 'net for me! We were "treated" to some movie instead.

sigszilla said...

Same here. I was very pissed off to see nothing but commercials for a game that I was not allowed to watch. They just played them over, and over again. I'm pretty sure that was an attempt to taunt me. I want my 15 yards.

Dan Mega said...

Larry Coker was fired.

CrumbBum said...

I never understand why they fire coaches before bowl games, or why they fire them midseason but let them coach to the end. How are you supposed to win when the coach is completely undermined, and you tell your players you've given up on him?

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

How are you supposed to win

You're not. And they don't expect to. What does Miami care now how they fare in the weedwhacker.com bowl a week before Christmas?

UF fired Zook the week before the Georgia game. Which meant the powers that be were forfeiting that game in order to beat ND to the punch in getting to Urban Meyer. And it worked. We lost to Georgia, lost the bowl game, but got the coach we wanted. (Though we did beat FSU that year, which was awesome.)

Also, there is no way you can recruit with the kind of coaching uncertainty Miami would be facing. Best to fire the coach now, figure out who you're keeping/getting, and let all the high school kids know you're stable again before it's too late and they all commit to USF.

Mike said...

You fire them now because the bowl game, especially one in Boise, means less then being able to assure whoever your candidates are that the job is, indeed, open.

And my friend had the dish and NFL network, but we ended up watching Miami-BC anyway, with the occasionally glance to see what NFL Network looked like.

ChrTh said...

There's going to be a verrry happy team getting Larry Coker in the next few weeks. NC State?

Ben said...

Texas choked.

john (ann arbor, mi) said...

Kellen Heard from aTm should be expelled from school for that hit on Colt McCoy. I suppose you can't fine a guy, but he needs to pay somehow.

I've never seen anything like that; it was like Zidane headbutting that Italian guy in the World Cup, but more vicious and less provoked. Disgusting.

Richard said...

If I was the Miami AD, I'd target Norm Chow.

ChrTh said...

What I can't figure out is what Heard was so mad about. Dude, the QB was trying to take off his helmet, what did you think would happen?

Any word on the latter injury Colt suffered?

Speaking of Choking: LSU 14, Hogs 6
Florida fans=not happy right now

ChrTh said...

I just hope Schiano doesn't go to UM. I don't think he will, but you never know.

john (ann arbor, mi) said...

Man, SEC defense is great.


Fucking tackle somebody. Alright, LSU?

Manada said...

I give thanks to the Astros whoa couple of years ago wouldn't open the vault for Beltran and now have OVER spent on Lee.....why do I thank them...well because of this the Jays are going to have to trade V. Wells now....and that pisses me off.

Jon said...

Tough call this off season for Schiano. Stay home or go to rebuild a name school.

I think Peyton and Eli need to get their dad some new sports coats for Christmas. What the hell is that guy wearing? It looks like some sort of table cloth from the 1960's.

Carlos Lee is going to buy a lot of barbecue with that 100 mill.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

All right, fuck OSU/Michigan--this is a fun game to watch. SEC defense-what?

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john (ann arbor, mi) said...

TACKLE.

Christ.

nep1293 said...

Darren McFadden should win the Heisman. He won't, but after today I have no doubt that he is the best player in the country

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Darren McFadden should win the Heisman.

The way he just accelerated past those last two defenders for that touchdown... slow-mo replays do him no justice. Just awesome.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Ack. Playcalling = shield your eyes.

ChrTh said...

So ... you've run for over 200 yards. You've passed for like 50. So you throw 4 straight passes? WHAT?

LSU with the win, UM with the grin.

The heroin sheik said...

IS it just me or do any other gator fans just feel like we really have nothing to play for other than pride. Even if we lay the wood on that girls school up north I just don;t see how we will get high enough to move to that number 2 spot. The one year we really need fsu to be strong and they suck ass. MY dad had a novelidea about the gators this year. HE thinks that they are purposely keeping the games close to lull the other team into letting us come away with the win at the end. I just hope we can hang half a hunnerd on em. Regardless next week should be a fun game.

The bucs suck ass. It makes me glad I was cooking dinner throughout the game but I was still so sickened that I couldn;t enjoy the spread. Imagine what would happen if the glazers sold the red devils and used the money to buy the bucs an offensive line. Maybe pick up a guy on defense who isnt older than me. Combined with the first pick in next years draft. Reggie Nelson's mom says he is skipping his senior year so the bucs should get him as a db. Of course that makes too much sense.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

IS it just me or do any other gator fans just feel like we really have nothing to play for other than pride.

Well, there is the Rose Bowl. My favorite subplot to all this is the fact that the Rose Bowl won't get a Big 10-PAC10 game and will have to choose from among ND, Big East runner up, Boise St (!), and SEC runner up (LSU or UF probably) to play either USC or Michigan. How does Michigan-LSU strike you? Or USC-UF?

I've been telling my friends still in the marching band that if they go to the freakin Rose Bowl the year after I leave the band, I'm murdering someone for their spot on the plane.

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Josh said...

So Dan, are you ready to just say that you were flat out wrong in every way and embrace the UCLA Bruins?

Big D said...

So... Texas loses, Arkansas loses, and now the BCS goes boom?

My head hurts. I really hope USC wins against ND and loses to UCLA - it'll clear everything up just a little bit more, no?

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

DS - come back from the tryptophan coma!

Steelers at Ravens: Ravens favored by 3, across the board, for the past 4 days. NO movement on any of the major 8 sites. In other words, minus the 3 point home field advantage, Steelers=Ravens in (non)power rankings.

Let's give the 6th seed in the 2006 playoffs some credit.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Ron Zook never called a game this bad. Just sayin'. I love Urban, but... just saying.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Urban Meyer, after every game, says something like, "Man, Percy Harvin is great, we need to find a way to get the ball to him more." Took 12 games, but... I 'll take it.

ChrTh said...

Wide open ... and he dropped it. Seminoles are lousy, I'm switching to South Florida vs West Virginia.

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

So troy....

When will "www.fireurbanmeyer" start gaining momentum?

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

Hah, I just went to that site to see if it existed. It's a PRO-Urban site. Very interesting.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Never, but Ron Zook got a bad break, and Urban gets a little much of a free pass. It took far too long this year for anyone in Gainesville to point out that our play-calling has been lousy all year--people just kept blaming Chris Leak.

Re: Percy Harvin, AAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! NNNNOOOOOOOO!!!!

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Oh right, I forgot about that, Ma4tt--someone bought the rights to that site as soon as we hired Urban to keep it from falling into the wrong hands.

john (ann arbor, mi) said...

Tens of thousands of fans chanting "Percy Harvin"?

Holy shit, FSU - that's classy.

ChrTh said...

Damn, UNC-Duke is getting exciting, and it's not on TV. How the hell is UNC-Duke not on TV in NC? DAMN YOU TIME WARNER!

South Florida gets the big fumble at the goal line to stop West Virginia (review pending)!

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Holy shit, FSU - that's classy

Are we sure that wasn't just the UF fans in attendance? Last time at Doak the UF fans were louder than the FSU fans and who knows where the mic was.

Plus, FSU fans once hissed through the entire national anthem because the UF band director was conducing. So... I'll wait for confirmation from someone who was there. But if the FSU fans were chanting too... wow, that's cool.

ChrTh said...

Maybe Jenn Sterger will have the 411 for us.

Rutgers is taking out their bitterness about last week's loss on Syracuse. Poor Orange.

USF is up by 9 on the Mountaineers.

Oh, forgot to mention it earlier. I think this has to be the weirdest thing I've heard all season:
"The winner of tonight's Wake Forest-Maryland game goes to the ACC Championship"

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Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

3 Florida teams are playing right now, and USF (USF!) is looking the best by far. Hm.

ChrTh said...

14-14?!? Florida does know they're playing for a shot at the national championship game, right?

C'mon USF ... hold 'em off!

O(K)SU-O(K)U knotted at 7.

ChrTh said...

INT, USF!

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Anyone else see Jim Leavitt at the end of the USF game? I hope to hell Miami doesn't steal him away. Personally, I don't think there's any way he'll leave USF--he has a chance to be their Spurrier, Bowden, Paterno, Bryant, Hayes.

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

Maybe the debate shouldn't have been whether "WVU" or "WVA" was the right way to indicate West Virginia. Maybe "WVCHOKERS" works the best.

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

Also... given Florida's performance today, it's USC or Michigan v. OSU. Not that 99% of the country disagreed with that assessment before the FSU-FLA game, but... wow. They looked pretty pedestrian today.

scar tissue said...

I don't agree with the "Michigan already had their shot" nonsense.

Michigan had their shot on the road and came up 3 pts short.

Every other teams shot will be on a neutral field.

UM is still in the mix. Ark losing hurts FLA. And way to beat a terrible FSU team by only 7.

Anonymous said...

"Florida deserves the hit after letting Florida State stay in the game."
-Dan Shanoff

oops, I mean:
"UM deserves the hit after letting Ball State stay in the game."
-Dan Shanoff

Now, I'm not ripping on Florida here. What I'm saying is, try generalizing your observation before you make it. Your "logic" may come back to haunt you.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to pile it on against Florida--I don't dislike them--but I just read
this. Can someone please send Urban Meyer a baby bottle? Unless he was playing his hand close to his chest this week for next week's game (and he wasn't), there is no excuse for playing badly against Florida State. To any Florida fans who are reading this: does this whining from your team's freaking coach and leader bother you more than the game itself?

The voters give teams a bogey or two (witness: UM-Ball State, OSU-Illinois, USC-take your pick). So really, he shouldn't feel so insecure about the game itself. He may feel that way about five of his last six games, but that's another issue. Meyer brings up the most hollow argument in the world that playing at Tennessee somehow affected their game against FSU. That's nothing more than a bald-faced lie.

CrumbBum said...

I'm pretty sick of the UM "it was on the road" excuse. You know that you're going to go to Columbus every other year, and if you're going to make the BCS you're going to have to win that game. This year you didn't.

ChrTh said...

USC is driving on ND already up 11. Wake is up 14. Life Is Good.

ChrTh said...

Anyone who thinks Glendale is going to be "neutral field" for tOSU is nuts. This is their 4th trip to Arizona in 5 years. They'll have home field advantage.

ChrTh said...

Damn, spoke too soon. WFU 21, Terps 14.

USC has 1st and Goal.

Anonymous said...

I was at the game, it was UF fans chanting "Percy Harvin" FSU fans did clap for him though

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Can someone please send Urban Meyer a baby bottle?

Jesus, calm down. The BCS created a system that's more political than athletic. Seriously, calm down.

it was UF fans chanting "Percy Harvin" FSU fans did clap for him though

That's still pretty decent of them. Good deal.

ChrTh said...

USC is playing like ASS now. Booty just threw another INT. I'm going to just shut up because apparently my powers of jinxing are strong.

Anonymous said...

@troy:

It's annoying when a coach whines.

The heroin sheik said...

Don't forget that Urban cryer will break down in tears like a little bitch as well. Was it the LSU game last yr when he started acting like my woman after a night watching sophies choice and steel magnolias. We slogged out another win and maybe that is who we are but I bet we would keep it close with OSU or USC or whoever. We basically play to the level of the team we are playing. Against a strong LSU team we played pretty decent and won. Same with @UT and @ AUB even though we did wind up losing. If a call or two went the other wsy we most likely win. All that matters is that the gators are on a 6-0 streak against out big three the last two years and Chris leak won three of four against the girls school. Damn even Weurffel didn't do that.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Eric: Then point out to me where he's whining. I just don't see it. I think he's saying what you have to say. You have to campaign a little bit, especially when the reporters practically beg you to.

Sheik: What?

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Last thing: Go UCLA.

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

After watching OSU-UM and 57 minutes of USC-ND , I'm sure that Brady Quinn should win the Heisman. Clearly the better QB, the better player. It's a shame he doesn't even have a chance.

ChrTh said...


I'm sure that Brady Quinn should win the Heisman. Clearly the better QB, the better player.


Obviously you needed to watch ND-UM as well to make an informed decision.

Smith versus UM: 29-41, 316 yards, 4 TDs, 1 INT, 4 rushes 12 yards.
Quinn versus UM: 24-48, 234 yards, 3 TDs, 3 INT, 4 rushes -18 yards.

So let's review: Smith had more completions in fewer attempts, more yardage both in the air and rushing, an additional TD and 2 fewer INTs.

Oh, and Smith is 12-0 as a starter, including 4-0 against ranked teams.

Quinn is 10-2, 1-2 against ranked teams.

And you think Quinn is more deserving ... why? He throws better garbage time TDs?

Anonymous said...

Look: I'm not saying that Urban Meyer is a crybaby, like sheik apparently says. I AM saying a couple of things:
1) Florida played a good number of bad games this year where, had they played better, they would be number 2 right now, even WITH one loss. No one will cut you slack for playing badly repeatedly.
2) Urban Meyer, by complaining about something that his team has by no means earned yet (they hadn't even played their last two games yet), has proven that he is distracted by a trophy instead of the next game. That is bad for his team, since they are better off if they play one game at a time. I like Florida, and root for them against FSU and Miami, so it's a shame that he can't even focus his team on an average, if not bad, FSU team this weekend. They could have made a big statement this week.

On the other hand, I may feel differently if it's my team's coach saying those things, as we are all motivated by our biases. I hope I don't, though.

And if I came off as a raving lunatic in my last post, I can assure you that I am not bouncing off the walls while I type this. I simply don't think his behavior helps his cause, and it irritates me that he doesn't see that.

ChrTh said...

BTW, nothing says "Style Points" like running an onside kick back for a TD.

So, how motivated is UCLA going to be next week since everybody (ie ESPN, SI.com, etc) seems to think USC is a mortal lock to win?

BTW, if Florida wins next week, I bet we see UM-LSU in the Rose Bowl. That would be a good matchup.

Wake Forest and Rutgers are both one win away from the BCS. Pinch me, I must be dreaming.

Anonymous said...

I hope it's just idle chatter about ND playing UM in the Rose Bowl. You can make arguments about who should play in the National Championship, which may permit a rematch, but the rest of the bowl games are just supposed to give the fans what they want, and repeating a game that was a blowout earlier is not what any fan wants.

UM-LSU? That would be cool. After the games I saw this weekend, LSU and Arkansas look like the best teams in the SEC.

Mike said...

Pete Caroll is an...well, this is supposed to be a more or less family site, so I won't say what I think, but why didn't USC just kneel the ball at the end (and then as the clock ran down they had a shot of him yelling something at one of the officials. REAL classy).

That said, did ND show us at all this season that they deserved to be ranked #5 going into this game? I know USC has a pair of great recievers, but ND's secondary was awful, and their special teams were the most pathetic thing I have ever seen (an ONSIDES KICK went back for a TD!?! Are you kidding me, Weis?). And we saw this the Whole. Darn. Season.

ChrTh said...

The Capitol One Bowl is shaping up to be the "It sucks that the BCS can only take 2 teams from the same conference bowl", featuring Wisconsin versus Arkansas or LSU (I think Florida gets a BCS bid regardless of how they do next week)

ChrTh said...

That said, did ND show us at all this season that they deserved to be ranked #5 going into this game?

Oh, hell no. Can you believe that 50% of ESPN.com voters thought Notre Dame was going to win the game tonight? It's amazing what Hype can do, huh?

Bowl Projections (since I got the BCS on my mind):
Fiesta: Oklahoma versus Boise State
Sugar: Florida versus Notre Dame
Orange: Wake Forest versus Rutgers
Rose: Michigan versus LSU
NC: Ohio State versus USC

Always remember that the BCS can rearrange picks "for the good of the game", which is why I don't think we'll see a UM-ND rematch, no matter how much the Rose Bowl wants the ND fans.

Anonymous said...

10/28/06
I interrupt my sweats at having just watched Florida survive a game they were dominating against Georgia...

TO PISS ON THE GRAVE OF USC!

-Shanoff


Oops....

rockchalk said...

Not to go off the subject completely, but ROCK F-N CHALK...That game was amazing, and KU is finally starting to gel...now if we can only figure out this first round jinx thing...

PS Florida out of BCS Championship...Unfortunately for the SEC, LSU has the most talented team with the worst coach in the conference. Ark. needed to come through for the gators and they didn't. Gators needed a statement win against FSU and they didn't deliver...what a bad weekend to be a GATOR...

Jason (East Lansing) said...

If Michigan already had it's shot than I say we make it that from now on the Number one team ALWAYS has home field advantage against the number two team for the championship game. I mean, the number two team can't complain right, because if they lose they already had their shot.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

Shanoff pissing on USC's grave. And saying toldya so about Kansas. Seriously, Dan, stop it. You're killing me with these jinxes.

Urban Meyer is mentioning the team's overall resume when he's asked about the BCS. That does not mean he sits in his office all week thinking about these things. I think it's pretty obvious from the rest of his press conference that each week he does nothing but focus on the team at hand. If it worked for Texas 2 years ago...

You're a fool if you think ND will not make a BCS game, a hopelessly optimistic fool. Hell, did anyone else see Lee Corso last night? Something like: "No no no no no no no... Forget Florida. They aren't big media market national television like this... This may have been a 20 point win, but it was much closer, it didn't look that bad." I couldn't believe my ears--is this how the game is really getting spun? ND were destroyed!

ChrTh said...

is this how the game is really getting spun? ND were destroyed!

In the land of Hype, the Fighting Irish are Emperor-for-Life.

Remember, this is a team whose entire reputation under the so-called "genius" is from a loss.

ND will get a BCS bowl, but unless they somehow get Boise State, they'll get another loss against a top-10 team (Winner of SEC, I reckon).

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

Oral Roberts is Instant History's #1 basketball team, via the transitive property. Oral Roberts def. Kansas, who def. Florida. Woohoo!

The heroin sheik said...

Although I doubt it would happen I would love to see Florida play Boise state down in miami. Then make them both wear the orange and blue. Im at dinner last night with my woman and the boise state game is on and she goes oh look the gators are playing. I just had to laugh.

isbtown said...

Rock Chalk.... nothing else matters!

The heroin sheik said...

OH my previous comments on urban cryer were after one of the losses last year. During the press conference he started crying about how sad he felt for his players or something gay like that. There were really tears. At least with the ole ball coach he wouldn;t have cried unless he didn;t cover the spread.

LudaKris said...

Who was it that called me out a few weeks ago about USF being a cake school....want to step up now? I'm pretty sure the game they said they would be embarrassed at would be the WVU. Wow, USF did what I thought.....please believe.

john (ann arbor, mi) said...

good call, ludakris - i'm with anybody else who realized that WVU wasn't good enough to beat even the Big East, much less the Big 3.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

or something gay like that.

Hm.


The Rose Bowl won't touch ND with a 40-foot poll. They want a competitive game, not a laughingstock. I think the SEC runner up (Florida or LSU) is getting the other Rose Bowl nod.

Unless, that is, the Roase Bowl would rather go with one-loss Big East runner up Louisville, which could happen if Rutgers beats WVU.

Personally, however, I see it shaping up like this:

Championship: OSU v. USC
Fiesta: Oklahoma v. Boise
Sugar: Ark/UF v. ND
Orange: Louisvile/Rutgers v. Wake/GT
Rose: Michigan v. UF/LSU

Really the only close call would be if Arkansas wins the SEC, does the Rose Bowl take Florida, LSU, or Louisville. I think it would take Florida.

This all assuming, of course, that USC doesn't screw the pooch against UCLA.

Dan Mega said...

ND, when playing a top 10 team, is losing on average by more than 20 points. What will the ND sheeple say now about their overrated squad?

Florida basketball- LOSES! I'm not happy, but I'm shocked!

I think Da Bears win by 3 today in Foxborough!

Hisjazziness said...

Who will be the new #1 in college hoops?

Steve said...

Butler

Jason said...

So when are you going to be jumping off of Florida basketball's cock, Shanoff? My guess was some time last night.

Ma4tt (the 4 is silent) said...

DS will be sleeping on the COUCH if he jumps off the bandwagon. Come on... be serious here.

WuzUpG said...

Alex Smith sucks. I'd take noodle arm Pennington over Alex Smith. The worst active #1 overall pick. Yes, worse than Eli!

Steve said...

Worse than Vick?

Anonymous said...

With USC now officially in the driver's seat to the Championship game, who thinks that they have the best shot at beating OSU? I don't think they have a chance in bloody hell.

Here're my rankings, based on ability to beat OSU:
1. Michigan (slippery field negated two top 5 defenses, and they still played shot for shot)
2. (tie)Arkansas (with one month to prepare, god knows what that offense could do--switching the QB would be a start)
2. (tie)LSU (with one month to prepare, maybe their QB could minimize those execution mistakes)
4. Florida (good enough to beat anybody, but no rhyme or reason to how or when it happens)
5. USC (played their entire season quite well, but Carroll proved he's mortal last year)

Of course, in six weeks, I'll probably be eating those words.

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

You know, I've really been overlooking this whole "Michigan isn't even a conference champion" thing. It boiled by blood when Nebraska in '01 and Oklahoma in '03 made the BCS title game despite not winning their conferences. Now I know the Big Ten doesnt have a championship game, but Ohio State is the obvious champ of that conference. And you know what, when it comes down to choosing from among 3 or 4 one-loss teams to place in the title game, I think not winning your conference should be a deal-breaker.

With that in mind, I would rank the teams most deserving of the #2 spot as follows:

1) USC. But if they lose...
2) Florida. But if USC and UF lose...
3) Rutgers. But if they lose to WVU...
4) Louisville. But if they lose to UConn...
5) And here we have a problem... two loss (really one loss?) Big 12 champ Oklahoma or one loss Wisconsin?

Yes, I said it: Michigan should already have been offered the Rose Bowl--even Wisconsin should get to Glendale over the Wolverines. It's fucked up I know, but it's a fucked up system.

marcomarco said...

Holy freakin crap. Junior Seau's forearm just looked like Theismann's leg.

Steve said...

On a queasiness scale of 1 to 10 Seau's arm was a 12.4

Steve said...

Is there anything more embarassing than being shut out by the Bengals?

Steve said...

For crying outloud Vick is a terrible QB, his rating sucks ass, but he's dynamic when he's in the open field. Make him a wide receiver already! There's no shame in it, it's worked great for Hines Ward. This is a traveshamockery. It doesn't have to be a Vick vs. Schaub scenario, you can have both!

Steve said...

While I'm on a ranting roll... Why don't kickers ever use the coffin corner approach anymore? It seems like it got teams backed up inside their own 20 far more often. For every punt pinned at the 1 these days it seems like 10 punts roll harmlessly into the end zone. Stay tuned to see if I get riled up about something else...

Brendan Burke said...

On this whole CFB BCS thing, has anybody noticed that the Big Ten could end up with 3 teams in the BCS top 5? This would be amazing for any conference.

RexyBack said...

Damnit Rex

Gmen23 said...

UGH

I mean....

UGH

nep1293 said...

I think Arkansas would have the best chance to beat Ohio St. OSU seems vulnerable against the run and I could see Arkansas just pounding it down their throats all day...

2- LSU
3- Michigan

john (ann arbor, mi) said...

hey troy gainesville -

I'm pretty sure that whatever you said made no sense and completely discredited itself.

What in the blue fuck was the qualification that bumped Wisconsin above Michigan? You do remember that Wisconsin is also a Big Ten Conference Loser, right? In fact, the standings go OSU, UM, Wisconsin (There is a system for determining conference champions - the word "obvious" doesn't need to come into play, as though there were some sort of poll used to determine a champion.). I thought your whole point was that not winning your conference disqualifies you from contention.

Next time you jump on a popular but contrived criterion's bandwagon, maybe keep your nonsense, er, argument, consistent.

Steve said...

It's good to see that Ron Mexico knows how to give the crowd the old double dirty bird. That's just funny.

Dan Mega said...

Rex Grossman needs to be benched. That last INT freaking hurt. Throwing to a FULLBACK in double coverage when you have 3 other great receivers out there.

Start the Griese era please.

Mike said...

How about we just give OSU the Crystal Ball already, play traditional matchups in the 4 Big Bowls, and use the 5th one for Boise State vs. Notre Dame (I don't even care who anymore. Its Boise State, and ND sucks). OSU beat TWO #2 teams this season, and I don't think anyone deserves a shot at them anymore.

And, for my required Homer Comment of the Day: How 'bout that Hokie D? #1 in total D and scoring D, and returning 8 starters next season.

Anonymous said...

"OSU beat TWO #2 teams this season, and I don't think anyone deserves a shot at them anymore."

You mean #2 Texas that also lost to Kansas St. and A&M?

Troy (Gainesville, FL) said...

You do remember that Wisconsin is also a Big Ten Conference Loser,

Yeah and I said that in deciding between one-loss teams, a conference championship should be a trump card. Last I checked, Oklahoma is not a one-loss team (or did Stoops get a forfeit from Oregon when I wasn't looking?). I didn't articulate it pretty well, but I think my point was that if you're going to go with a team that didn't win it's conference, it better be because you're in dire straits--like if USC, UF, Rutgers, and Louisville lost.

And then if you're going to take a non conference champion, and make the title game a conference game--well then I guess it shouldn't be a rematch between teams that finished their seasons against each other. Like I said: fucked up system.

Steve said...

I Can't wait for Shanoff to now put the Patriots at #1 even though they are 8-3, the Colts are 10-1 and the Colts dominated them at New England. You'll see, he's going to actually do this.

Geoff-Detroit said...

Except the BCS had an opportunity to add that wording and they chose to not do it. So whether or not you win your conference should have no bearing on whether or not you are good enough to play for the championship.

Not that I think Michigan should go over USC, but I certainly think they should go over Florida.

marcomarco said...

1. Colts
2. Chargers
3. Ravens
4. Pats
5. Chicago
6. Dallas
7. New Orleans
8. Seattle
9 - 32 irrelevant.

H said...

@Steve, The Pats don't deserve to be number 1, you're right, but you can't say the Colts dominated the Pats in that game. It was a 1 TD victory that could and should have gone the other way. Kevin Faulk makes that catch 99 times out of 100, the one time he didn't. the Colts snatched it up. Otherwise, it may have been a different outcome. Either way a 1 score victory is by no means domination.

Travis said...

I'd hardly say Indy dominated New England, yes the Colts won but it wasnt a smack down like the word dominated would suggest.

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