Wednesday, October 11, 2006

This Week's CFB Top 25 Ballot

So I've ripped the AP pollsters over the last week, put my first crack at a Top 25 out earlier this week, and even gotten into a blog feud over it. Now you can check out my final CFB Top 25 ballot for this week.

Here's the link to all BlogPoll ballots. Look under the "Week 7" column, and you can find mine under, obvs, "Dan Shanoff."

(Yes, Florida is No. 2 on my ballot. By the way, did you notice that ESPN College GameDay will be covering a Florida game for a second consecutive week this Saturday (at Auburn)? Ever remember THAT happening? UPDATE: Uh, apparently, it happened with Ohio St just this year. My bad!)

-- D.S.


Dan Shanoff said...

OKAY! Yes, the game is AT Auburn, not in Gainesville. I fixed the post. My bad! I meant to say "following Florida for a second straight week." D'oh!

BLUE said... guess is that Florida vs Auburn will be on CBS since they have the contract with the SEC, so I'm not sure how ABC would benefit.

john (east lansing, mi) said...

Fair enough. I still don't know what anybody sees in West Virginia, but I can wait for that Louisville game.

Louisville better not jump to #3 just because they trounce West Virginia, though.

Especially not after the oranges give the Mountaineers a run for their BCS bid this weekend (yeah, that's right. We'll see.)

BLUE said...

OOPs my bad, i don't watch ESPN anymore, it's always bad to assume. But they were in Gainesville last week, and I know that game was on CBS.

Dan Shanoff said...

Updated this post: They covered Ohio St two weeks in a row earlier this season.

FreKy J said...

Those of you who say "So and so hasn't played anyone yet!" or "How can you rate a 2 loss team ahead of this team" or even "The true indicator is wins and losses on the field" can appreciate a ladder rating scale based only wins and losses, with strength of schedule already built in..

That's why I made one. I call this the Week 6 rankings because it's the rankings after 6 weeks have been played, and because there's no preseason ranking.

Here's this week's Top 25:
CFB Ladder Rankings - Week 6 Top 25
Here's all 119 teams ranked:
CFB Ladder Rankings - Week 6 Full

Anonymous said...


You have ND ahead of Tenn.

ND lost to your #4 team, while Tenn lost to your #2 team. You have said that the SEC is the toughest conference in CFB, so why not represent that in your ballot?

Anonymous said...


seriously, enough with your "rankings"

you have ND and Clemson ahead of WVU.

you have rutgers 3 spots ahead of texas.

you have NAVY ranked...and not only that, but they are 2 spots ahead of Tulsa...TULSA BEAT NAVY THIS SEASON.

seriously. just. stop.

Anonymous said...


I like the idea, but the poll is supposed to be a snapshot of this week, showing who the best team is at the moment. Vegas is taking factors like future schedule strength when setting up the odds for "futures".

We can't do that on the poll because as we've seen, upsets happen and teams turn out to be "overrated". Isn't it funny when the media says something about a team being over rated (like when Fowler does it) and they are guilty of doing so in their AP ballot? (like when Fowler does it).

BLUE said...

For those of you that think strenght of schedule shouldn't matter, I present to you the WVU mountaineers. If you go by the saragin ratings for strength of schedule, they have a weaker schedule then Montana, a 1-AA school. Seriously. When the BCS comes out there will be WVU fans whining like crazy, but they will be lucky to be in the top 10.

FreKy J said...


It's becoming borderline hilarious that you're taking such strong offense to a ranking system that is absolute and rule-based.

ND and Clemson are ahead of WVU because they have both played a vastly superior schedule than WVU in addition to also both having played an extra game to this point in the season.

The same goes for Navy who has played (and won) an extra game than Tulsa.

I'm not sure about Rutgers over Texas. I would have thought the tougher schedule would benefit Texas more. However.. a loss is about a 200 point rating swing. Instead of gaining points, you're losing them, so the fact that Texas is only 48 rating points behind Rutgers really says a lot.

Aside from continuing to get amusement over your fuming, you really need to get over yourself and deal with it. You come across like a jackass.

FreKy J said...

Something else of note. Arkansas beat Auburn, yet in the REAL polls, Auburn is still ranked ahead of Arkansas, despite both teams only have 1 loss.

Arkansas lost to USC.
Auburn lost to Arkansas.

Seriously. Stop. Bitching.

slaskaris said...

Freaky J,
I liked the idea of your poll in principle until I saw that Tennessee is ranked several spots behind Cal. I don't know any human or computer that could put Cal ahead of Tenn as the Vols smacked them head to head. Both have played soild opponents, both are playin great right now, and both are puttin up huge points in their last few games. So explain the logic?

..but I'll admit the ladder poll is a nice idea.

FreKy J said...


While California is 3 spots ahead of Tennessee, they are only 37 rating points ahead of Tennessee, which ends up not being much.

That said, a Cal win this week will put them even further ahead of Tennessee for the time being because Tennessee has a bye week and cannot gain or lose any points.

TJ said...

The only true indicator is the number of wins and losses.

That statement is at least as subjective as this statement: "LSU is a better team than Rutgers."

One of those statements is based on a fairly empty state (wins and losses against completely different teams). You might as well say Rutgers are better than the Pittsbuergh Steelers, because 5-0 is obviously better than 3-1.

On the other hand, saying LSU is better than Rutgers is based on actual observation of the two teams playing the game of football. When teams don't play each other, the only way to even begin to guess how good they are in relation to each other is to actually watch the games. Which is why even a poll like the BlogPoll is so vastly superior to the Coaches' Poll.

TJ said...

It's becoming borderline hilarious that you're taking such strong offense to a ranking system that is absolute and rule-based.

Dude, it could be a bad rule. These things happen.

FreKy J said...

One more thing I wanted to say. This ladder is based on every team having an equal chance to win the national championship at the very beginning of the year. Every team begins on equal footing. Where the ratings go after that is entirely up to the teams.