Let's recount the size of the chip that Matt Leinart should have on his shoulder right now:
(1) Didn't win a second Heisman.
(In fact, he wasn't even the best QB in college football last year.)
(2) Didn't win a second nat'l title.
(In fact, his team was exposed as overrated chokers.)
(3) Blew chance to be No. 1 overall pick of the 2005 NFL Draft.
(In fact, he dropped all the way to double-digits.)
(4) Earned national scorn with contract holdout.
(In fact, he was the last first-rounder to sign.)
(5) Skanked around with Paris Hilton.
(Slumber parties made him gossip fodder.)
(6) Future father of bastardized child.
(Coulda been worse: Coulda been Paris.)
OK, if this guy doesn't come out, guns blazing, using this chance to SHUT EVERYONE UP, he's an even bigger clod than the above-mentioned evidence suggests he is.
His karma was SO good...
Then SO bad...
So he's SO due for a huge debut as starter.
-- D.S.
Tuesday, September 26, 2006
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The better question on Leinart is what can we reasonably expect out of him? Remember that he is a rookie that has never taken a snap at the pro level save a few series against backups in the preseason. He does have some fantastic weapons arond him. It will be interesting.
Roethlisberger set an unfair precadent making everyone like DS think Leinart can do the same. I'd be impressed with Leinart if he has an 80 QB rating for the season. They guy is going to be good, but we need to give him time.
However, if he doesn't get the ball to my fantasy receiver Larry Fitzgerald early and often, I'm going to be mad.
Boy, I didn't know that losing a national championship game on the final possession rated a team as a bunch of overrated chokers.
Better let some people in on that secret. You know, every losing team from every national championship game ever.
SC lost even though they probably could have won, but let's not spew silliness while trying to make a point.
(2) Didn't win a second nat'l title.
(In fact, his team was exposed as overrated chokers.)
(4) Earned national scorn with contract holdout.
(In fact, he was the last first-rounder to sign.)
Uh Dan, they were half a yard from repeating. It was ESPN that hyped them up, not SC themselves.
#4 - National Scorn? Really? I didn't see this as a big national story.
Might need to rethink some of your stances as absolutes.
I wonder if, after every loss as the Cardinals starter, he will tell the reporter in a crying voice, "We still have the better team".
Giving up a two touchdown lead in the last...3 minutes? doesn't count as choking?
And Leinart WAS scorned for his hold out.
But, Dan, we do have short memories after all..that's the point every week isn't it?
I think he'll be solid, not turning the ball over. If he's smart, he'll work Edge early and often to open up the pass later.
as yes, Shanoff's lemmings to the rescue....
I don't think SC was a bunch of overrated chokers. Notre Dame, now there is a bunch of overrated chokers. 47-21 pasting at home?
And raf, I live in PHX, people were on LEINART's side. Sometimes you can't just read the headlines on ESPN and act like you know the entire story.
I'm not an SC fan but I think they had the better team than Texas.
How is skanking around with Paris Hilton a chip on his shoulder?
Isn't that more like a high fiving your buddies, holding up a picture and saying "I hit that!!!" moment?
Wish you hadn't written that, Dan! I was planning on grabbing Leinart in my fantasy team. Now my friends who read your blog will snatch him up (I'm in first and have Eli in a bye week- yes, he causes me great heartburn).
I would have to say that people were not on Leinart's side here in Phx. The majority of people including the media were railing him for holding out. The big argument was he was not a top 10 pick. Granted the majority of reasons anyone holds out is because of their agent (paging Mr. Rosenhaus and Mr. Boras), but still.
My guess, they limit his exposure much like they did with Roethlisberger his first year and Rivers this year by running the ball more and picking their spots with the passing game.
I agree with Bryan, can't hold #5 against him Dan.
dan, if leinart is an overrated choker, then why are you still on the "brady quinn first pick" train?
or was this again more outlandish claims just to get a rise out of people, thus ballooning your comments section/readership while on the way to using this blog as a stepping stone over to aol sports?
if Leinart is the answer to your fantasy team then your team must ROYALLY suck.
I think Leinart is meat this weekend against the Falcons.
Can you think of a much worse time to be making your debut? That offensive line is just not good - so yeah he has the weapons but will he be able to use any of them.
Edge will have a tough time running against the Falcons which will cause Leinart to have to throw - and once the Falcons get pressure on him the fact that it is his first game EVER in the NFL will come back to haunt him.
I think he will settle down as the season progresses and he will do some good things - but this week might be a tough one for Ol Matt.
I don't like Matt Leinert, but I can't really pinpoint why. Maybe it's because I have family that just transplanted out to Phoenix from Ohio and they have jumped right on the Cardinals' bandwagon and have become instant Leinert Lovers even though he hasn't done anything yet. It does bug me when guys hold-out, so that could be part of it too. The personal life stuff doesn't help...Paris?! Ugh, c'mon. She's so skanky. Knocking up your ex? Just plain dumb, but he's DEFINITELY not the first to do that.
It's funny that we're only another bad performance from Plummer away from having Vince Young, Leinart, and Cutler as the possible starting QBs for week four.
Leinart just needs to throw the ball up in the air in the vicinity of either Boldin or Fitzgerald, and he'll be okay. I witnessed Fitz and college (against BC), and let me tell you, throwing the ball near him, he'll grab it.
It really should be that easy, especially if DeAngelo Hall is hobbling or out.
-Todd (Boston)
Ugh, sorry I spelled his name wrong throughout my entire comment...that is a pet peeve of mine!! LOL
Maybe Leinart is just an idiot and all of that crap DS wrote means nothing. He will play OK. This is a waste of time topic...
But then again what are blogs for? They are for unemployed suckas to post their opinions...or employed ones who don't feel like doing what they are really being paid for. Anyway, my dimes worth:
(1) yeah that one gives him a chip on his shoulder. A chip so big that he says "Screw camp, I want money, I don't need to prove that I am the best QB coming out this year"
(2) I am fairly certain the story at the time was how VY brought Texas back, not how USC choked.
(3) Again this should give him a chip, but see #1. Also see: Matt Leinart=Idiot.
(4) I don't think anyone really cared that he didn't sign. All anyone said was, "damn this kid is dumb"
(5) He does not have a chip because of this. I fail to see how this would give him a chip. Do you really think he is going to say "damn I hit it with a famous chick, I am so pissed I must throw for 300+yds and 4TDs." If DS was still doing the Quickie this one would have been edited out because it is dumb.
(6) Again another edited one. How in the world can this give him a chip? If it did then Santonio Holmes would be catching 40 passes a game. Does Leinart say "I must atone for my bastard child by throwing for 300+yds and 4TDs. Then and only then will God forgive me." No he doesn't say that.
Did anyone catch that the Cardinals sold the naming rights to their stadium?
"The University of Phoenix Stadium"
Well Leinart did say he enjoyed college.
Some people crack me up.
(1) Leinart I think was pretty overrated in college. His first Heisman was debatable since OU's White had better numbers that year than he did in his Heisman winning season (votes were in before the Big XII championship), and I doubt that anyone will ever win two Heisman's again because voters don't want to see it. Don't forget that the year he won the Heisman there was still debate about whether or not Bush should have won it.
(2) Not sure I agree with USC being overrated chokers, they had no defense last year and relied on outscoring people.
I've got family who went to Notre Dame, and I'll admit that they were overrated. But to say that Brady Quinn is an overrated choker because of the Michigan game is a bit much. It's hard to be a good pocket passing quarterback when you're too busy running for you life because of a weak offensive line. (see also no running game) Opposing D's can get pressure with only 4 men leaving 7 dropping back in coverage, good luck finding an open receiver.
And personally, if the girl pictured with Leinart is the mother of his kid... she's so much better than Paris!
Now the WWL says Cards to stick with Warner.
NOW Leinart has a reason to have a chip on his shoulder.
Hooking up with Paris Hilton isn't cause to celebrate or to have a chip on your shoulder.
It's cause to go to the doctor and get antibiotics.
don't you mean Valtrex?
once again chris mort. of ESPN screws my fantasy teams!!
*shaking fist like jon stewart*
no doubt, wear a rubber and still get tested.
maybe double bag it.
you forgot about the paper bag for her head.
hopefully someone will use a plastic bag one time.
(that's a joke, for the easily offended)
That's your solution to everything iam! Kill them!
That is deplorable!
Dan,
Just like JJ Redick, Brett Farve (where has all your bashing of him gone this week since he played a great game and got to 400 tds on his way to the all-time record) the Steelers, Notre Dame (who I don't like at all), and other teams/players you can't stand for whatever reason, I knew you'd trash Leinart in some way before he ever played a down. The reasons you mention for him to have this alleged "chip on his shoulder" are mostly ridiculous and would never be brought up if he went to Florida. Your judgment is so clouded by what teams you root for that you cannot seem to be objective with any team/player you don't like. Hell, your readers are much more objective than you are and seemingly more able to make unbiased opinions, despite the fact that we all have our favorite teams as well.
I've always been a loyal fan of the MQ/DQ and have tried to check in on a semi-regular basis with your blog, but your seemingly irrational dislike of certain players/teams has so clouded your judgment that your arguments are getting tired. I don't mind you being a Florida/Jaguar apologist but when they lose or one of their players makes a mistake, nothing is said, or it is explained away as they coulda/shoulda won (similar to Jax coming up small in Indy this weekend). Nor can any player/team you dislike ever get any credit, no matter what they accomplish.
I was rooting for Texas in the Rose Bowl and am certainly not a USC fan (in the interest of full disclosure I graduated from Penn State). However, if putting up 38 points in the biggest game of the year makes Leinart and his offense "overrated chokers" than I must have missed a memo. I feel the same way about him getting with Paris Hilton or not winning the Heisman last year (notice no mention of the fact that he has one already and 2 national titles which puts him in very exclusive company). These are reasons to cop an "I'll show you" attitude? You really should think out your posts a little better before putting them up. This was one of the dumbest ones of all time.
Oh, and by the way, Warner is going to start this week, so your entire rant is even more pointless than before.
FYI denny green changed his mind, warner is starting
Here's my take on the Leinart decision by the Cards.
http://eastcb.blogspot.com/
rob (warwick)
Byron Nelson died today at the age of 94.
http://freevolek.blogspot.com
Well, the man was 94. Bound to happen. Good long life.
Of course Dan irrationally dislikes certain teams. Everyone does.
I dislike (why):
Red Sox - annoying
U. of Tennessee - Fulmer, 1998
Notre Dame - Living off the '40s
Marshall - cheaters, cons
Most favorites in the NCAA Tourney
France - in WC soccer
England - in WC soccer
Kobe - therapist for 200
Schilling - shut up already
Any sibling of a no-talent 'pop' star who has even less talent than the no-talent 'pop' star
I really could go on and on. Clearly, I don't have real reasons. But they still count.
rafael, your reasons seem petty enough that i will extend a personal invite to our blog.. www.sonsofkc.blogspot.com
we enjoy bitterness with no reasoning, im sure you are welcome there as well.
and we can also always use another notre dame hater.
(In fact, his team was exposed as overrated chokers.)
Holy shit, man--that's a little harsh, no?
Matt Leinart is starting to give off the Ryan Leaf vibe to me.
And that can't be good.
Can I be the first to say, stop spamming?
You've had the chance to pimp your own blog, DS will probably add you to his blogroll if/when he creates one (although if he hates spamming as much as I do, maybe not...), you can add your blog's URL as a signature to any meaningful post you make, etc.
Just don't post and repost whatever you've recently heard off the wire, and then add your blog to that, because that's not gonna make you my go-to source for random updates around 5 PM.
And I don't mean you, sonsofkc. Although I almost might. Just make sure you say things for their own sake, not advertisement's.
Even jingoist doesn't bug me; there's a topical post that sends you over to his blog. Kind of annoying, and I'm not likely to copy and paste that into my bar, but at least it doesn't make me decide "I'm never going to look at that blog, ever." If Matt Leinart actually interested me at all, I might check that out, and I think it's fair that he directs you to his previously written statements rather than just pasting it in. But see, the comment is topical and belongs where it is located.
By the way, I thought maybe Rafael meant "Shilling" instead of "Schilling," but then I remembered that there's a pitcher of the same name who is worshipped and glorified despite having essentially identical career stats (for different teams, who finish the season in different positions...) to those of my Detroit Tigers' Kenny Rogers.
But if he had meant "Shilling," I would have been right with him.
Rev. Is Leinart really giving off a Ryan Leaf vibe to you? I actually think Leinart has a pretty good head on his shoulders - or at least he seems like a quality team guy who understands the football aspect of his career - can't say much for his personal choices but who hasn't had one of those nights, heh.
I think Leinart not starting this week is a smart move by the Cardinals - that Falcons defense is going to be brutal and why not let Godboy take the hits and bring Leinart in for the next game when he wont be facing such a brutal defense.
John (the whore, mi):
As a Yankee fan it pains me to defend Schilling v. Rogers, but as far as "almost identical" goes...
Schilling has 2 WS rings which he earned. (2001 WS co-MVP, 2004 bloody sock)
Rogers has 1 that he mooched off the 96' Yanks. (he went 12-8 during the season and had a post-season ERA of 14.15 with 0 wins)
overall CS has a post-season ERA of 2.04ish and Rogers is rocking out at 8.85. Schilling is 8-2 in October, to Rogers at 0-3.
40 comments are a lot to go through, so I only ran a few searches for key words; if I repeat something someone already pointed out, forgive me.
Matt Leinart did win 2 national championships. His Sophomore year, he led USC to a split Ntl Championship with LSU. Then they won outright the next year against Oklahoma. Last year's game against Texas was for 3 straight. I know split Ntl. Championships are ridiculous, but as long as the system allows something so stupid, you have to give USC credit for it.
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